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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 07:49 AM Jun 2015

Hillary Clinton Calls Trade Stalemate 'a Process Issue'

More obfuscation. HRC is continuing her practice of blowing smoke and trying to have it every which way on the TPP. She's for it, she just doesn't have the guts to stand by her beliefs and let the chips fall where they may. Maneuvering for political advantage may be effective, but it's sure as hell not leadership.


Campaigning in New Hampshire, Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton on Monday continued to hedge on whether President Barack Obama should have fast-track authority in the Trans-Pacific Partnership Trade Agreement—and whether she would want it if she were the president.

"I'm going to say this," she said, speaking to reporters at an orchard in Concord, N.H. "I believe that you take whatever happens to you in a negotiation and you try to leverage it. In this case, I believe that one of the ways the president could get fast-track authority is to deal with the legitimate concerns of those Democrats who are potential 'yes' voters, to see what within the negotiation or what's even in the existing framework agreement that's being drafted, could be modified or changed."

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http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-06-15/hillary-clinton-calls-trade-stalemate-a-process-issue-

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djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. Obama wants Fast Track. He really really wants Fast Track. Which means - NO negotiations,
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 07:57 AM
Jun 2015

and NO changes. Maybe Hillary doesn't understand the process?

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
2. The *President* seeing what might be changed
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 08:05 AM
Jun 2015

Is the wrong step in the process. Let people seriously study it and see what *they* think.

Oh wait. That's what he's trying to avoid.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
3. Wait. We're supposed to believe that she's opposing TPP...
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 08:08 AM
Jun 2015

...but she's still resuscitating fast-track?

What the hell is she for, exactly?

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
7. She is for Hillary For President. Whatever it takes.
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 08:51 AM
Jun 2015

And yeah, either she does not understand Fast Track or, more likely, she believes (hopes?) we commoners do not understand Fast Track. Lot of that going around these days.

The trade agreements are meant to be as non-negotiable as the Ten Commandments, only they are about corporate control and profit, and dispense with morality completely.

 

imthevicar

(811 posts)
4. Look at her voting record,
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 08:25 AM
Jun 2015

Then you can see who she is for.

There's a big club out their and you aint in it!-G.Carlin

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
6. The "legitimate concerns" of the Democrats are that they don't want the president to have fast track
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 08:46 AM
Jun 2015

authority. So what Clinton is saying is that the way for him to get fast track authority is for him to agree to give up fast track authority?

How fucking far down the rabbit hole are we?

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
8. Yes, she's trying to obfuscate the sweep of TPA.
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 11:22 AM
Jun 2015

She seems to be saying "If the President could get the TPP to be better, then TPA (fast track) would be OK." At least, that's how her statement might be interpreted by voters who don't know that TPA would last six years and would cover other Obama trade deals now in the pipeline, plus whatever the next President did.

I'm sure Clinton knows that about TPA. She therefore ought to know that the Democrats' concerns about this "process issue" wouldn't be eliminated even if Obama were to seek and somehow achieve enormous changes at the last minute in the TPP.

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