He claimed his color change was some kind of physical problem. Rachel has actually stated she identifies herself as "black."

Doesn't mean I get to be on the Lucky Charms box or defend rainbows.

Top o' the merning to ya!

I want the Lucky Charms box - you can have the NYC parade.

We"ll share the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow!

Even mean? Strange lady I think.

Rachel claimed she IS black and identified a black man
as her father when that was a LIE and a slap in the face
to her white biological father.

and it was always patchy. And vitiligo did not reshape his nose.

depending on whether you have more light patches or dark patches around your face, you usually put something on to lighten or darken the rest so your face is one tone.

He did get a nose job but that's pretty common among people in the entertainment industry and not evidence that he thought he was white. He seemed proud of his experiences in Motown, and I remember seeing him perform in some BET award program and, again, he seemed proud to be a part of that community.

Patchy skin doesn't meld with show business particularly well, so he had his skin bleached to just get it over with.

nor his family, he worked with black people and most importantly his music and choreography reflected his roots and his own unique identity. Micheal meant it when he said it don't matter if you're black or white.
I get tired of people taking pot shots at him. I'm going to post a bit of lyric from what wound up being the last song Michael rehearsed on Earth:

Tell me what has become of my rights
Am I invisible because you ignore me?
Your proclamation promised me free liberty, now
I'm tired of bein' the victim of shame
They're throwing me in a class with a bad name
I can't believe this is the land from which I came
You know I really do hate to say it
The government don't wanna see
But if Roosevelt was livin'
He wouldn't let this be, no, no


All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

Outside of adoptions.

She's the first person to co-opt a term to try and explain away the trauma of her childhood.

When she takes off her black face and wig -she can get back to me.

She didn't have a neighbor across the street try to run her over when she was five because she was a 'nigger'.

That's my experience in 1978.

So she doesn't and didn't have the experiences I did.

Funny - I haven't bleached my skin, died my hair blonde, bought light blue contacts because of that 'trauma'.

Don't fall for her bullshit. Don't get played by her. You are way more intelligent than that.

Just horrific what adults do to children because of hate.

I just think we need to be aware - those of us born in the 1970's and black or bi-racial (My mom is a white woman) -

We HAD these experiences. Mine was in a small town outside of Rochester NY.


If we look through her childhood -she never experience foaming at the mouth racial prejudice *on sight* from non blacks.

*On Sight* - has nothing to do with 'when' she claims she personally became a black person -

It was American's and peers perception of her. I truly don't believe she knows what it's like to be a small child and have an older white man do that, or an older white woman refuse to take a mint out of a candy bowl at a restaurant just because you have a brown hand.

Feeling like something has nothing to do with BEING something.

Look at it like this - I don't get to 'co opt' being a white woman married to a black man and that experience in the 1960's . . . That's a specific set of experiences based on white skin that I can never relate to.

I am older than you, white and raised in Texas, where racism was rampant. Fortunately my parents were raised in the midwest and were not racist. They always told me not to use the racist terms my little neighborhood friends used because it could hurt (AA) people's feelings. I barely remember separate water fountains and bathrooms. Even as a really little kid, those things never made sense to me. My high school was integrated, but the AA students all sat huddled together in classrooms and the lunchroom. They looked like they were terrified. Never spoke to any of the white kids, probably didn't dare to. I felt bad for them. Wish I had gotten to know some of them. Now it is just so natural to make friends with AAs. I don't think twice about it, of course. But if those students were frightened, as I suspected, your stories help explain why. I have always hated and never understood racism.

when this issue first broke I was kind of shocked at how many of my friends who I usually agree with on other issues claim this situation is no different than the Jenner transgender thing. Many of my friends of all races believe this though mostly it is my white,gay friends who said, "who cares, she is/was doing good". Even though I didn't, at first, have it intellectually sorted in my head I just knew the transgender comparison wasn't right .

The "trans" discussion aside, i just can't accept and dismiss her DECEIT.

Most of us that have given birth to children conceived with a man of a different race, usually consider ourselves one thing: MOM.

She needs consulting and perhaps even some drug therapy. Her total disconnect from realty is (in my humble opinion) ,not meant to be a phony or even to deceive. She's in a world of her own making and needs help to get out.

Who said that since she's masqueraded as black for 5 years now, well, then, she really knows all about prejuidice and what it's like...seriously, Whoopi was serious.

in my view. One can decide to live the culture, but one
cannot change their biological make up. She is white - period -
and will never "trans" to being a REAL black person.

who made that up?

I should just post this video every time anyone says this.

it's getting REALLY deep in here now

Yeah, there's obviously a whole lot more to this story.

She did a lot of good work that she could have done without changing her racial identity. But I think she has some big problems that need to be worked on with the help of a professional.

transracial a term that doesn't exist in the way she is trying to use it. Somewhere in her mind she believes if she were black her life would be different. Where did she get that from? Her parents certainly changed the lives of the four black children they adopted. Is she identifying that change????

Any way she needs some professional help.

who are now facing the "browning of America." They must adapt or die.

you have all the symptoms of a humor deficit.

You know what would be really cool?

You could call me a Nazi as well!

or my aspbergers??? That's really mean.

Pass the Hollandaise, please.

Looks like someone started the day with a big old cup of hyperbole!

You voted for Obama and you have black friends.

She may be the first to start coopting that sort of language.

He was a white man who traveled through the south, in the last 1950's, "passing" as a black man. He kept journals on his experiences, turned them into a book which was later made into a movie starring James Whitmore.

I know it's not the same scenario, but it has happened, before.

white biological parents? I don't think so.

It really was the only other even SOMEWHAT similar situation, but done for a whole other purpose.

which isn't the same thing.

It was really the only other situation I'd ever come across where the situation was a white individual passing them self off as black.

Hell no. You notice someone came up with a term for white people, but in POC we still call it passing. A dark complected black person who stated " I'm white and Trans racial" isn't going to fly. Nor is one who uses skin lighteners. There is a lot of history involving racial identity, painful and hurtful, and not from being white.




That woman may be disturbed but she's still an asshole.

for bringing transracial issues to the mainstream.

Deceit? She's less 'transracial' than Navin Johnson.

Clarence King had a public existence as an important government geologist, explorer, mapmaker. But in private life he assumed a black identity -- apparently because he had fallen in love with a black woman -- they had five children together and she believed he travelled so much because he was a railroad porter. He did not tell her that he was actually white until he was dying. This is all documented in a fairly recent book called Passing Strange. This is not a case of someone with black ancestry passing as white for professional reasons, as his family is well documented and privileged.

Another liar. Shame on him.

This is a choice by her. Complete choice. Using such a term makes it as if it is rooted deeper in biology and it is nature. That is not the case.

by those hostile to both blacks and trans people.

Jesus, I don't know how many times we need to have this discussion.

Unlike real black people, at the end of the day she can always decide to be white again.

A black person is always going to be a black person and will never be allowed to "identify as a white person".

Those who are honest from south Louisiana will admit that there is a high probability that they are of mixed race.

who steals (appropriates) anything she thinks will help her continue grifting. She appropriated a race not her own, she appropriated a painting and claimed hers was the original. She even appropriated the term 'transracial' which refers to the adoption of children of one race into a family of another race NOT appropriating another race.

She lies repeatedly and as necessary to cover up her atrocious actions.

I can't believe how many are buying into her deceptions, enabling her to continue deceiving people. It boggles my mind.

Aren't we all a true mix of backgrounds?

50 thousand years ago - right?

How was your family (parents and grandparents) affected by the horror of Jim Crow?

and that makes me... a pasty-faced white guy with two Latino children!

nobody can be truly trans-racial in the way that the term is being used. For gender, a person is born with a physical and a psychological gender, which usually match, but not always. For race, there is not a psychological component that a person is born with, instead the psychological component develops over time. That's why nobody can actually be transracial, because nobody is born transracial, it's always a choice. Trans______ should only be used when it's not a choice.

But, I do accept people's own construct of themselves, choice or not. But, that word is a misnomer.

Black to live with his black family. In his wife life he was a U.S. govt employee of the dept of interior. I wish I could remember the name of he book.

"Transracial" is a new term. You can google "passing for white" and its long history in the US.

OTT, my experience growing up in a multiracial place with a lot of intermarriage is that ethnic and racial identities can be fluid. This does not seem to be what is going on with Rachel D.

Eventually some psychologist will come up with a rationale behind transraciality. She said she drew herself with brown crayons, so it's possible she began to confuse her race at a young age.

TBH I thought this would become a thing after Bruce came out. Many notable black celebs are coming out in support. I expected her to get zero support from the black community, it shocked me to see how many black people on social media are supporting this idea.

So right now transracial is looking inevitable.

"Showboat" (1926); "Imitation of Life" (1933); "Quality" (1946). Although, all of these deal with black 'passing' for white. More recently, "Tales of the City" (1978) included a black character who is later revealed to be a white woman passing as black.

Even if you cling to the belief that "transracial" is a thing, Steve Martin has her beat by a mile. "I was born a poor black child in Mississippi."

Here's the story of one man, Clarence King.

Clarence Rivers King (1842-1901) was an American geologist, mountaineer, and author. He served as the first director of the United States Geological Survey from 1879 to 1881. King was noted for his exploration of the Sierra Nevada.

Common law marriage and passing as African-American

King spent his last thirteen years leading a double life. In 1887 or 1888, he met and fell in love with Ada Copeland, an African-American nursemaid (and former slave) from Georgia, who had moved to New York City in the mid-1880s. As miscegenation was strongly discouraged in the nineteenth century (and illegal in many places), King hid his identity from Copeland. Despite his blue eyes and fair complexion, King convinced Copeland that he was an African-American Pullman porter named James Todd. The two entered into a common law marriage in 1888. Throughout the marriage, King never revealed his true identity to Ada, pretending to be Todd, a black railroad worker, when at home, and continuing to work as King, a white geologist, when in the field. Their union produced five children, four of whom survived to adulthood. Their two daughters married white men; their two sons served classified as blacks during World War I. King finally revealed his true identity to Copeland in a letter he wrote to her while on his deathbed in Arizona.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_King


A book was written about his life. It's called "Passing Strange".

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1594202001?ie=UTF8&tag=viglink20265-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1594202001&SubscriptionId=1MGPYB6YW3HWK55XCGG2

imo, she's a white woman. period.

To see if it is even possible to have a different race as a child. The verdict is still out and I will wait on the experts to make my decision. This is very new. I'll wait a few years to see how it progresses. If it ends up being BS, so be it then, but I won't make up my mind from opinions.

I could imagine Rush and Hannity spouting such a comparison. That would be ridiculous since Warren truly believes she is 1/32 Native American, this other woman knows for a fact she is not Black, she was always deceiving people purposely.

And yeah Elizabeth Warren always said she was a small part Native American. She never claimed not to be white. It's not the same thing at all.

that's my 2 pesos.

I just saw an interview where she was shown a picture of herself at 16 and asked if she identified as black at that time and she admitted that she didn't.

ina ray hutton, john howard griffen, vin diesel, emimim....

Like, they are usually only 1/4 black at most and usually more like 1/8 to 1/16th black. If she can show that she is 1/4 or 1/8 black, she would BE black just like those poc who passed, WERE white for all intents and purposes.

Basically saying Na na na na na! I can't hear you!

How about 50% or 34.2?

This is ridiculous.

since Rachel Dolezal is 0%.

I am not talking about the obviously odd lady in Washington. There are a host of other issues going on there. For one there are white directors of NAACP groups in the US so she didn't have to make shit up.

My point is that Hoover for instance negated his none white self entirely even though grandpa I believe was Black. That is taking on another "race" 100% which might be consider transracial. That a new term but who is to say that plenty of whites and Latinos may live as Black people due to their lives? I think it is wrong to demonize them for that.

We only hear about famous people doing this but it is more prevalent that I think anyone wants to admit.

but it doesn't seem even remotely the same for someone who is multiracial to figure out which of their background most defines them, as it is for someone to take on an entirely different background from their own.

So no, I don't think a multiracial Hoover choosing one part of his background over another is the same as taking on another race, or is anything like what people are calling "transracial."

Because i'm far whiter than that woman is black, but it seems fine with her defenders that white people won't accept me, but it's horrible that we won't accept her. When white folks start accepting ALL people with white in them as WHITE and treat us all as such, WE will accept her 0% black self as black. But you, white people, have to go first. We accept ALL of ours who claim blackness, who grew up and lived as black, no matter if they are blond and blue eyed, we accept them. White folks are the ones who have issues accepting people who are biracial or multi racial, with black obviously in their blood, as white like you. But now WE have an agenda? Crazy talk. White people invented this shit, not us. We live it and suffer for it, without the privlege of acceptance from them.

She was much older than them.