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Jetboy

(792 posts)
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:40 PM Jun 2015

'As a kid I decided that if our society dictated that one had to be black or white, I would be black

'-Johnny Otis

From Wikipedia; Johnny Otis 'was an American singer, musician, composer, arranger, bandleader, talent scout, disc jockey, record producer, television show host, artist, author, journalist, minister, and impresario.[2] A seminal influence on American R&B and rock and roll, Otis discovered artists such as Little Esther, Big Mama Thornton, Jackie Wilson, Little Willie John and Hank Ballard and Etta James. Known as the original "King of Rock & Roll",[1] he is commonly referred to as the "Godfather of Rhythm and Blues"'

Otis was a Greek who was raised in a black neighborhood in Berkley California. He essentially lived as an African American his entire life. Though Otis is one of a handful of the most important people in the creation of rock-n-roll, I know little about him. From what I understand, some viewed Otis as a great man and accepted by most blacks while others viewed him as a huckster who took advantage of black talent.

Does anyone remember Johnny Otis? He just passed away a couple of years ago! Was he accepted in the African-American community

It kind of makes me mad that we know so little about Johnny Otis while every move the British Invasion bands made just a few years later is well documented. ----> rant for a different day.

In the light of the Dolezal controversy, I thought the Johnny Otis story was interesting and I hope to learn more about him.

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'As a kid I decided that if our society dictated that one had to be black or white, I would be black (Original Post) Jetboy Jun 2015 OP
Yes, he was very much accepted AND loved. n/t jaysunb Jun 2015 #1
Thank you! n/t Jetboy Jun 2015 #2
Well technically speaking he might have been black Kalidurga Jun 2015 #3
I don't think race is defined by DNA Kurska Jun 2015 #4
Well then he was black Kalidurga Jun 2015 #5
Fair enough Kurska Jun 2015 #6
You might be interested to know that his brother, Nicholas Veliotes, Tanuki Jun 2015 #7

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
3. Well technically speaking he might have been black
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:40 PM
Jun 2015

we can't really know without a dna sample. A lot of Greeks have dna that suggests a line from North Africa, there is a lot of people with dna that suggests Semitic ties as well.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
4. I don't think race is defined by DNA
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 11:26 PM
Jun 2015

That would suggest race is biological. It is more about shared cultural experiences and societal interactions.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
6. Fair enough
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 11:36 PM
Jun 2015

If he said he was black and grew up with black cultural experiences, who am I to second guess his identity?

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
7. You might be interested to know that his brother, Nicholas Veliotes,
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 12:17 AM
Jun 2015

had a very different life trajectory, becoming a distinguished Middle Eastern scholar, diplomat, and Ambassador to Jordan and Egypt. ("Johnny Otis" was the stage name of Ionnis Veliotes).
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Nicholas_A._Veliotes

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