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Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 11:12 PM Jun 2015

"Conversation" with Hillary Clinton? That'll be $2,700

Four, five, even six times per week, Hillary Clinton meets deep-pocketed supporters eager to shake hands with the celebrity Democrat -- all-but-obligatory encounters helping her amass the war chest needed to win the White House.

Qualifying guests are invited to hold what is described as a "conversation with Hillary," at a cost of $2,700 -- the legal limit set by the Federal Election Commission (FEC) on donations to candidates in the 2016 presidential primary cycle.

Once the primaries are decided, a supporter can contribute a fresh $2,700 maximum to a candidate in the presidential election.

Clinton, a former secretary of state and the prohibitive favorite for the Democratic nomination, has participated in some 40 fundraising receptions since launching her campaign in April, according to the Sunlight Foundation, a nonpartisan Washington organization that studies campaign financing.

By any measure it is an intense schedule to follow from now until Election Day 17 months away, and more rigorous than the smattering of public events she has held as a candidate.
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more: http://www.afp.com/en/news/conversation-hillary-clinton-thatll-be-2700

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"Conversation" with Hillary Clinton? That'll be $2,700 (Original Post) Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 OP
WTH, why are you trying to control how people spends their money? Are you donating anything to any Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #1
a little bit but not that much though Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #2
Then don't complain when others gives more or less. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #3
I agree! It's not like money corrupts elections. The SC said so. Exilednight Jun 2015 #27
Do you like for others tell you what you can and can not do with your money? Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #44
The SC said I can spend as much as I want to buy my candidate, and money is democracy. Exilednight Jun 2015 #45
I don't like republicans in my love life, my bed room, in my doctors office, making my choice of Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #47
I agree! We should be able to buy our candidates no matter what their price! It's called democracy. Exilednight Jun 2015 #48
Guess you don't understand how campaigns are handled, guess you think advertising doesn't cost Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #49
$2700 for a handshake is money well spent. Exilednight Jun 2015 #59
Yes it is when shaking hands with the next president. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #61
FREE SPEECH ISN'T FREE !!!!!1! elehhhhna Jun 2015 #52
True. At least Hillary's giving a discount compared to her usual fee for speakin with people. That's admirable I spose. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #57
yeah she charges Charities 200K ... elehhhhna Jun 2015 #66
Hey, even the Clintons need to put food on the table. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #68
lol this reads like a libertarian Report1212 Jun 2015 #38
Tell me which part sounds like a libertatian? Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #42
So, only those who donate ''anything'' to candidates can talk about the candidates? Octafish Jun 2015 #64
Legalized Bribery - Pure And Simple - Public Campaign Financing Now cantbeserious Jun 2015 #4
You realize that you can't have public financing right now, right? brooklynite Jun 2015 #14
It's a vicious circle that must be broken Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #29
^^^ THIS ^^^ cantbeserious Jun 2015 #35
Bernie, as usual leadin the way. Feel the Bern!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #58
+1 Go Vols Jun 2015 #67
She has been going all over Iowa and NH talking to people BainsBane Jun 2015 #5
Get a grip, Cheese Sandwich didn't write the article. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #7
Believe it or not BainsBane Jun 2015 #10
Wow. Let's have a look at that outrage: beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #11
Well done! neverforget Jun 2015 #15
Thanks! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #17
Alert results.... Violet_Crumble Jun 2015 #19
Hey you! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #20
#7 Made me spit laugh BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #21
Ikr? I snorted out loud! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #22
That's going to be my new jury comment for frivolous alerts BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #60
Thanks. Violet_Crumble Jun 2015 #71
lol elehhhhna Jun 2015 #53
lol elehhhhna Jun 2015 #54
lol m-lekktor Jun 2015 #32
I'm not a Hillary fan, but I see nothing wrong with this! Nt Logical Jun 2015 #6
Candidate raises money for campaign, pearls clutched. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #8
For someone who says they support the populist TM99 Jun 2015 #9
The role of money has to be reduced via law, not geek tragedy Jun 2015 #41
ouch elehhhhna Jun 2015 #56
On her listening tour, with the hoi polio, media had access. Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #13
The "hoi polio" Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #23
Hey, that's us. azmom Jun 2015 #72
Oh come on... raising $2,000,000,000+ is HARD. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #12
At $2700 a pop, that's a helluva lot of sweaty hands to have to shake. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2015 #26
If this troubles you, here's something cheaper... brooklynite Jun 2015 #16
Here's something even cheaper than that. Won't cost the OP a dime... wyldwolf Jun 2015 #24
Look, it is a red herring! TM99 Jun 2015 #30
Yeah, but why would you post one? wyldwolf Jun 2015 #33
You are just so cute in TM99 Jun 2015 #34
And you are so obvious wyldwolf Jun 2015 #37
Actually very far-sighted. TM99 Jun 2015 #39
So what are you going to do about it? wyldwolf Jun 2015 #70
I'm not a Hillary fan but I see plenty wrong with this olddots Jun 2015 #18
She has amazing stamina guess it comes from experience, SOS & the huge Foundation. Sunlei Jun 2015 #25
I can't afford for my voice to be heard. Sienna86 Jun 2015 #28
You can't go to a campaign rally? Too bad. brooklynite Jun 2015 #31
How is this a bad thing? JaneyVee Jun 2015 #36
Caption: "Now witness the power of this fully armed and operational battle station!" Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #40
I've been to a few such fundraisers. I can't afford either $1000 MineralMan Jun 2015 #43
Is this the same Hillary who was recently talking about the corrosive influence of money Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #46
Indeed it is...and she's smart enough not to unilaterally disarm. brooklynite Jun 2015 #63
I'll wait for it to come out on Cable. nt clarice Jun 2015 #50
noveau1%er elehhhhna Jun 2015 #51
I wouldn't pay $1 to see most of these politicians speak bigwillq Jun 2015 #55
Everything wrong with politics in a nutshell LittleBlue Jun 2015 #62
Nothing say electible like $2,700. JEB Jun 2015 #65
I don't think Hillary can be "bought" for 2700 bucks. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2015 #69
Every Presidential candidate has done this. They charge more to people who can pay more, pnwmom Jun 2015 #73

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. WTH, why are you trying to control how people spends their money? Are you donating anything to any
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 11:15 PM
Jun 2015

candidates? It is your choice whether you want to donate or not, for others, they think it is important to elect Hillary and they want to donate.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
44. Do you like for others tell you what you can and can not do with your money?
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 10:25 AM
Jun 2015

If people are donating $2700 it is not a lot money, if they want to complain then yell about the Koch brothers.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
47. I don't like republicans in my love life, my bed room, in my doctors office, making my choice of
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 10:38 AM
Jun 2015

abortion and I damn sure don't need anyone telling me how to spend my money. Donating this amount of money doesn't have anything to do with Citizens United.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
49. Guess you don't understand how campaigns are handled, guess you think advertising doesn't cost
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 10:51 AM
Jun 2015

anything and the many other cost of campaigns. It is not buying anything to donate this small amount it is saying I like this candidate and I like what she is saying and I think she is qualified. Your argument of buying candidates is off base but continue to think $2700 buys Hillary.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
57. True. At least Hillary's giving a discount compared to her usual fee for speakin with people. That's admirable I spose.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 12:56 PM
Jun 2015

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
64. So, only those who donate ''anything'' to candidates can talk about the candidates?
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 02:10 PM
Jun 2015

That sounds so...so...so modern.

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
14. You realize that you can't have public financing right now, right?
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 12:25 AM
Jun 2015

And that if the Republicans win you won't have public financing anytime soon?

And to beat the Republicans, you'll need the same resources they do?

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
29. It's a vicious circle that must be broken
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:57 AM
Jun 2015

Bernie's the guy who can do it. Hillary's not about to derail that gravy train.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
5. She has been going all over Iowa and NH talking to people
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 11:24 PM
Jun 2015

and not charging anything. It's called retail politics.

You don't like the fact campaigns now cost billions. Neither do I. The difference, I don't pretend it's all the fault of one woman because that is patently false. It's a systemic problem, and the more you make it about Clinton, the more you perpetuate it. She was defeated in 2008. Did that solve the problem? Of course not, and if you defeat her this time the problem will continue to grow. If you actually cared about the influence of money, you would address that problem rather than pretending it's Clinton's fault. Instead, it looks to me like you don't care at all.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
7. Get a grip, Cheese Sandwich didn't write the article.
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 11:39 PM
Jun 2015

Are you berating the Hillary supporters who are posting inflammatory articles about Sanders?


BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
10. Believe it or not
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 12:03 AM
Jun 2015

My number one concern in life is not the fortunes of the political elite. I am talking about campaign finance. If you or the OP should ever decide you actually care about that rather than your chosen political messiah or bete noir, then you need to address the issue rather than pretending it is all about one individual. Now, your response tells me my point is entirely lost on you since clearly you care about nothing other than who wins the nomination and the presidency. That ranks rather low on my list of concerns, and I find the constant fixation and contortion of views to fit particularly politicians disconcerting. I also have a very low regard for the view that a politician is more important than the people he seeks to represent, an ethos I see as profoundly anti-egalitarian.

Now clearly you paid no attention to my point, and I hold out no aspirations that future replies will be any more responsive.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
11. Wow. Let's have a look at that outrage:
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 12:14 AM
Jun 2015
"I am talking about"


"If you should ever decide you actually care"


"you need to address the issue rather than pretending"


"your response tells me"


"since clearly you care about nothing other"


" on my list of concerns"


"I find the constant fixation"


"I also have a very low regard for the view"


"I see as profoundly anti-egalitarian"


"you paid no attention to my point"


"I hold out no aspirations"




You got all that from a two sentence post?


Way to not get a grip.





You really work yourself into a lather over the littlest things, BB.


I get exhausted just reading your posts.


Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
19. Alert results....
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 04:34 AM
Jun 2015

On Tue Jun 16, 2015, 11:54 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Wow. Let's have a look at that outrage:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6849797

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This post is just a personal attack in the form of mockery. There is no response to the content of BainsBane's post and is just a reason to confront someone on a personal level to provoke. This attack is a new low since they don't engage over content, but instead dissect the post by separating the phrases to mock them with individually. Imagine if we all started doing that instead of responding to content. This is a tedious personal attack and should be hidden.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Jun 17, 2015, 12:13 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: It's a complete mockery of the poster they're responding to. I realise this won't be hidden, but for the record I'm very tired of this sort ugliness here.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Dear long winded alerter. You alerted on the wrong post. It's the one BMUS is replying to that is nothing but personal attacks. It's also poorly written and seething with fake outrage.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't believe the post should be hidden, but the alerter should take the gist of his or her argument here and convey those concerns to beam me up scottie.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Uh, no.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Horse pucky!

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.



BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
60. That's going to be my new jury comment for frivolous alerts
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 01:04 PM
Jun 2015

Horse pucky!

You have been blammoed by the wall o text and lived to see another day. Next time, you may not be so lucky!

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
71. Thanks.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 05:32 PM
Jun 2015

I don't think I rock though. I would have if I'd been able to hit the ALT+MOCK button and copy and paste bits from the alert, though

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
8. Candidate raises money for campaign, pearls clutched.
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 11:49 PM
Jun 2015

If Bernie gets the nomination, the party will not pay for GOTV with fairy dust.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
9. For someone who says they support the populist
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 11:56 PM
Jun 2015

candidate, you are very quick to defend the corporatist.

This money is not going to the party. It is going to the candidate who is Clinton.

And here is why this is so egregious.

Those who can afford to meet the candidate like this are those whose voices will be truly heard. No poor person is going to ever be able to pay this kind of money to meet a candidate. And frankly, I don't know very many truly middle class people who can afford to spend this kind of money to meet a candidate either.

If you sincerely believe there is no quid pro quo, then you do not know history and you definitely do not know the political reality of the US for at least the last 30 to 40 years.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
56. ouch
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 11:59 AM
Jun 2015

one semester of in state university tuition to say hi to Hil. And she doesn't give a shit anyway - she takes her instructions from her co-1%ers.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
13. On her listening tour, with the hoi polio, media had access.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 12:22 AM
Jun 2015

Will she allow access to the media for her $2,700 entry fee conversations?

Buns_of_Fire

(17,176 posts)
26. At $2700 a pop, that's a helluva lot of sweaty hands to have to shake.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:46 AM
Jun 2015

The candidates probably spend a FORTUNE on hand sanitizer. But I'm sure the campaigns are smart enough to buy it by the 5-gallon bucket, so I'm sure they get a little price break on it.

I picture candidates standing at the head of the reception line, all with coin changers on their belts.
"Hello, Candidate X."
"Hello, Citizen. What would you like?"
"Just a handshake, please."
"Okay. With tax that'll be $225. Would you like fries with that?"

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
16. If this troubles you, here's something cheaper...
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 12:27 AM
Jun 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026841992

...and I'll not that your accompanying picture was a speech she gave at Texas Southern University, not a fundraiser.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
37. And you are so obvious
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 07:58 AM
Jun 2015

With your short-sightedness.

Of course candidates are going to raise money because the GOP is. Taking the high road now would lead to a serious cash advantage for Republicans.

But if that makes you feel good...

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
39. Actually very far-sighted.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 08:08 AM
Jun 2015

The gross amount of money that the GOP and now the Democratic party must raise in order to run a campaign insures that only those whose pocket books are the biggest are the voices most heard.

I suspect you and others who adhere to this model are going to be very surprised come next year.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
70. So what are you going to do about it?
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 04:45 PM
Jun 2015
The gross amount of money that the GOP and now the Democratic party must raise in order to run a campaign insures that only those whose pocket books are the biggest are the voices most heard.

So what are you going to do about it? I mean, other than complain?

Bernie Sanders will not win without raising gobs of cash.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
25. She has amazing stamina guess it comes from experience, SOS & the huge Foundation.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:27 AM
Jun 2015

Plus she has always wanted to be President.

$2,700 limit per person is not much in todays political world.

Mrs. Clinton doesn't have the hundreds of 'political charities' to get millions from like republicans do.

She also doesn't write some crap book (or palin movie) to get 'backdoor donations' like so many republicans do.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
40. Caption: "Now witness the power of this fully armed and operational battle station!"
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 08:25 AM
Jun 2015

I swear, a hooded black robe and a red lightsaber, and she's a dead ringer for Palpatine.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
43. I've been to a few such fundraisers. I can't afford either $1000
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 10:22 AM
Jun 2015

or $2700, so I volunteer to do some sort of host duties. The "conversation" with the candidate consists of a handshake and some sort of platitude and then you move on. Much shorter than any elevator pitch you might make in an office building.

It's a fundraiser. It's goal is to raise maximum individual contributions to the campaign from as many people as possible. You don't get to lobby for your pet issue. That's not why people pay the $2700. People like to shake hands with other people who might become President. That's why these fundraisers work to attract people to them.

Oddly enough, the volunteers who work at these things often have even better chances to chat with the candidate. They often have opportunities to assist the candidate in some way, which usually leads to a brief conversation. I've spoken to many candidates in that capacity. Not usually presidential candidate, of course, but candidates for the Senate and House are generally quite approachable.

I have shaken hands with two Presidents, though, and may have a chance to shake Hillary's hand this year. I'd like that, because I like to shake hands with people who might be President, too. We'll see what opportunities arise this year and next. I hope to shake Bernie Sanders' hand, too, here in Minnesota. We'll see.

But this is not the level of campaign finance that is the problem with campaign funding. Not at all.

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
63. Indeed it is...and she's smart enough not to unilaterally disarm.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 02:05 PM
Jun 2015

When she's in office, she can address her commitment to overturning CU. If she loses the election, not so much.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
51. noveau1%er
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 11:49 AM
Jun 2015

Not voting for nouveau 1% ers any more than old money jerks. That leaves Bernie and Joe
Greed has damned near killed democracy.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
55. I wouldn't pay $1 to see most of these politicians speak
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 11:56 AM
Jun 2015

That's how I choose to spend my money.
If folks want to drop $2,700, fine by me. It's their money.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,176 posts)
69. I don't think Hillary can be "bought" for 2700 bucks.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 02:56 PM
Jun 2015

Hillary's campaign gets the money, the donor gets a quick handshake and a little tingle, and everybody walks away happy.

If politicians were THAT cheap, we could just buy a few congresscritters of our own (they're probably cheaper by the dozen) and give them as birthday presents and party favors. (Which tends to be the way the Kook Brothers look at it.)

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
73. Every Presidential candidate has done this. They charge more to people who can pay more,
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 07:31 PM
Jun 2015

with events that cost different amounts to attend, including some that are free.

I had a friend who loved Obama and had enough money so she could pay $5,000 to stand in a line and go home with a photo with Obama. So what? She didn't get any special favors. Just the photo and a lunch with a few hundred other people.

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