just as high, and how tax credits = more burden on citizens. And how being a low-paid apprentice does not guarantee a job, but guarantees the debt will be more difficult to pay off.

than unemployed youth. And it's a tinkering around the edges solution to broad scope problem. Anything but bold. It is politically safe, however. Oh, and it has the backing of conservative republicans.

it's sad how little some DU'ers seem to know about how other countries work.

Labor and Unions need to join the 21st century and revitalize.

This idea has the potential to do great things.

Clinton doesn't go far enough and probably won't.

But the dynamics must change.

in Europe and the stark differences between the U.S. and Europe in that regard.

Her proposal is a tiny nibble around the edges and a tip of the hat to repukes.

No on both counts.

Incrementalism is not going to fix our economic system.

... And with that, I think I win here.

They always do this when there's a special tax credit.

No change in headcount. Bullshit plan.

Don't know whether to or

Whatever she proposes will always benefit the corporatists.

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The apprentices themselves get to do the work of a journeyman worker, but at half the pay.

Whooptie fuckin do. But hey, whatever works, maybe it'll fool a few people.

frankly this has the potential to help Labor. If done incrementally.

a guild system because of a small tax credit.

Work something into it that could help revitalize Labor.

You'd think they'd be rich enough to not need government help.

Oops. Can't stop thinking that Donald Trump is running for president.

The knowledge that the apprentice would be getting a tax credit? Or getting a tax credit themselves?

McD's to hire "apprentice" sammich makers for $5.00 hr.

Win/win right?

It's truly bizarre that we have this corporate segment of the party that so openly and unconsciously promotes trickle down economics, as if it's just practical stuff. And they actual have their gullible fans clapping for it and claiming they're solid Democrats.

I remember when this supply-side nonsense was broadly recognized as far-right stupidity, even by mainstream Republicans.

Clinton says or does...I suggest some people here take a week or two off and then come back and look at this foolishness when a little time has passed.

if it had been proposed by Bernie Sanders.

I like Bernie, but I've been tuning him out simply because his supporters here are such fanatics.

And the constant, constant sarcastic anti-Hillary snark is nowhere near as clever as they think it is.

of course, you won't see this, having put me on ignore for taking exception to your god-like quarterback's cheating and lying.

I don't love Bernie. I don't agree with him on all things. Having met with him, I think he can be brusque and at times impatient. As for your candidate? I opposed her long before I supported Bernie, dear. I oppose her on policy after policy. I oppose her because I think she is dishonest. I oppose her because I think she acts as if the rules don't apply to her. I oppose her because she has no political courage and is a weather vane. I oppose her because I find her deep Wall Street and corporate ties, disturbing. I oppose her because of Iraq, Libya, Honduras and Syria. I could go on.

I support Bernie because of his policies and his record, and his history of honesty. You want to call that being a fanatic, hon? Go for it, joey. And joey, YOU are the last person who should be accusing others of fanatic devotion to a candidate.

he has a history of making. it's utter speculative bullshit on your part. I have yet to see lots of DUers exhibiting much support for tax credits for business.

then it would have been good.

Very good.

Bernie good.

Hillary bad.

Grunt.

In any case, it was proposed by Your Lady of The Perpetual Corporate Star.

Issues important.

Personality politics, bad.

Funny, how very rarely I see Hillary supporters discussing real issues, but it is interesting how they fabricate her anew this time around.

BTW, I'm not a Hillary supporter.

Thanks.

It's called free education at public colleges and universities.

for EVERYONE.

There are apprenticeships in modern times. I have met plenty of people who have gone through them. They all seem to come from back east. You do not (or I have not) ever heard of any apprenticeships on the west coat or western parts of the USA.

LOL