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Eeee is right!
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We've got lots of fog.

I grew up in a fog belt and observed it always rained under the redwood trees on foggy days, while the grasslands just got damp.

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Delays 'R Us whenever the fog rolls in.

I have read there is no such thing as spraying chemicals from airplanes, in fact it is verboten on DU to even suggest such a thing. Even tho it happens, we're not allowed to say so. So there.

Just not the fact you're implying.

That in each big plane there are at least 4 fuel tanks. On take off the tanks with the straight fuel are used for maximum power. Once at cruising speed, the stuff in the tanks with the cloud seeding chemicals are blended into the jet engines. Crazy stuff!!

Do educate us please.

Visible chemtrail experiments ceased over the United States in 2001. Anyone telling you they see chemtrails today is blowing smoke up your ass.

Guy sitting next to me said the clouds coming out of some of the planes was chemicals!! What kind of crazy is that? Here it is, 2015, and like you say blowing smoke.

Because my neighbors and I have watched four planes flying in formation over the Central Sierras in CA dragging trails that did not dissipate for hours. It has happened multiple times.
And they are not commercial planes or government jets with the typical exhaust trail

Anyone with lying eyes looking up and paying attention over northern CA will confirm.

If you believe there are no chemtrails (that are not simple commercial or military jet airplane exhaust ) then prove it. Until then, people with good eyes and no reason to lie will tell you they exist and occur routinely.

I don't know what their purpose is. Cloud seeding? Other experiments by government or private sector? Who knows. But anyone who asserts chemtrails do not exist are as foolish as those paranoid fringe who say the government or Monsanto is creating drought in CA on purpose ..

Why do you hate science?

http://contrailscience.com

and took hours to cover the ENTIRE sky

And Yes, this was in Northern California, and the trails didn't dissipate but just expanded to blend with the other bands laid out hours before. Toward the end, the entire sky would be grey with one blue band of virgin sky remaining, then a pencil mark trail started growing down the middle (the plane was to high to see). Withing the hour, the entire sky was grey but you still could make out faint lines separating the trails if you studied them. In my unscientific estimate, perhaps 5% of the sunlight had been blocked. These events were rather extraordinary to witness and haven't been repeated since 2001.

Note: The trails were laid out east to west, true, with ONE peculiar band running NW to SE, and the were evenly spaced, maybe a dozen or fifteen bands from the southern to the northern horizon.

large enough to produce rain. Seeding wispy clouds will more likely just make them dissipate with little to no precipitation.

There's been a lack of storm systems, blocked by the Pacific High (Ridge), so there aren't "rain" clouds to seed.

Furthermore, California's water shortage is related to the lack of snowpack, cause by clouds, but also warmer weather in the mountains.

Cloud seeding not only doesn't work if there aren't clouds to work with, cloud seeding also can't make it cold enough to snow.

rather than staying on the Sierra Nevada mountains throughout the year.

Might work the other way round, but No. I really don't think so.

California water, clouds, rain mostly come from the West, from the Pacific Ocean.

Texas would have a hard time stealing water from us.

I'm sure this is well meant???? But, no. We in California do not suspect Texas of stealing water from us. Texas would have to be able to change its geography if it wanted to do that. I know Texans are amazing, but I don't think they can change geography.

Did anyone even care enough to really read about it?

I thought DUers believed in science.


I guess if the far left liberal media won't report on it, it just doesn't matter.

Whatever.

I moved from California years ago, got plenty of water now.

Enjoy your drought.

The moisture taken out by cloud seeded rains would come at the expense of rains further east, such as Iowa Corn Fields. Perhaps we should rethink allowing so many people to live in a desert. Or atleast keep there water use inline with what the native climate could support.

I've read many articles about low tech solutions to extract water from the air. One cycled air down into the ground to create condensation. The early version of that generated about a liter a day. Another was a giant device shaped like a vase that extracted water from the air. The shape of the device coupled with the change in temperature allowed it to extract around 40 to 50 liters a day. All you have to do is have some humidity.

By doing so, our water bill has dramatically dropped.

couldn't help but think of this great song and video:

The song is about the very close relationship between psychologist and philosopher Wilhelm Reich and his young son, Peter, told from the point of view of the mature Peter. It describes the boy's memories of his life with Reich on their family farm, called Orgonon where the two spent time "cloudbusting", a rain-making process which involved pointing at the sky a machine designed and built by Reich, called a cloudbuster. The lyric further describes Wilhelm Reich's abrupt arrest and imprisonment, the pain of loss the young Peter felt, and his helplessness at being unable to protect his father. The song was inspired by Peter Reich's 1973 memoir, A Book of Dreams, which Bush read and found deeply moving.