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ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 12:16 PM Jun 2015

Do you support isolationism as a foreign policy?

Isolationism is a category of foreign policies institutionalized by leaders who asserted that their nations' best interests were best served by keeping the affairs of other countries at a distance. One possible motivation for limiting international involvement is to avoid being drawn into dangerous and otherwise undesirable conflicts. There may also be a perceived benefit from avoiding international trade agreements or other mutual assistance pacts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolationism



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tridim

(45,358 posts)
1. This poll should be 99% "yes" based on Neo-DU's demographic, but I bet it wont be.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 12:21 PM
Jun 2015

It will however point out a lot of hypocrisy.

We are The World. All of us.

Good luck DU!

Mosby

(16,311 posts)
2. its the framing
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 12:30 PM
Jun 2015

DU isolationists don't like to be called isolationists.

The polite term is non-interventionism.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
7. Indeed.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 12:47 PM
Jun 2015

DU imperialists don't like to be called imperialists.

The polite term is internationalist.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. FDR didn't care if he was called interventionist, imperialist or simply a realist.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 01:08 PM
Jun 2015

FDR didn't care if he was called interventionist, imperialist or simply a realist.

I doubt many others care about bumper-sticker labels either... except those who rely on bumper stickers for their knowledge.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
8. No, I believe in rewarding our friends and punishing our enemies. And in making better distinctions.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 12:54 PM
Jun 2015

Many of our "friends," particularly in the Mideast, aren't. They are commercial trading partners, some of whom provide bulk energy supplies and have huge investments in U.S. based multinationals, real estate, and defense industries, while others are economic dependencies. Both types routinely intervene in the US political process, in their own ways, and regularly threaten us with dire consequences if we don't indulge their mutual paranoia about terrorist factions supported by the other. They are not our friends, but not entirely our enemies.

To label and treat them as either one or the other has been the source of decades of lethal mistakes and miscalculation.

To be more cautious and to demand accountability from both is not Isolationist. It is self-preservationist.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
3. When I here trade discussed in the media
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 12:30 PM
Jun 2015

it seems to me those with the most to gain are for it and those who will lose are opposed. That is not news.
But trade has many dimensions.
The TPP is more about corporate control over countries than it is about trade. So saying you are opposed to the TPP is more about opposing corporate control than it is about opposing trade.
If the OP is calling the TPP merely trade it is dishonest I think.

on point

(2,506 posts)
4. But I also don't support using our military to impose our will over others
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 12:31 PM
Jun 2015

Participation in, and building of, international institutions, and the rule of law is required.

The mood of the country is not to isolationism, but a retreat from attempting to be the sole imperial power lording it over others.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
10. Yes and no.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 01:04 PM
Jun 2015

The United States should participate in world bodies that establish treaties and negotiate for peace around the world (like the United Nations). The United States should also participate in mutually beneficial international trade that causes no harm to Americans.

The United States should NOT send it's armies to kill brown people around the world to further our "foreign policy" or enrich the 1%. The United States should NOT sign trade treaties that only "trade" general economic security to improve the profit margins of America's wealthiest people.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
12. no. and opposing ftas written by corporations and their
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 01:14 PM
Jun 2015

allies, that expand corporate rights and increase there power and influence, does not make one an isolationist. Shockingly, there are orher models for free trade.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
13. overall internationalism is the future, but we could use with a bit more isolationism
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 01:56 PM
Jun 2015

with regard to certain areas of the planet

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
14. Absolutely not! Especially big business, small business, labor, peace makers and earth scientists.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 02:28 PM
Jun 2015

None of those should be isolated from the planning of international agreements between nations. Any trade agreement that excludes small business, labor, peace makers and earth scientists should be automatically rejected on the grounds that big business alone[font size=1], and a bunch of people we oddly call "brilliant" for winning popularity contests, [/font]can not possibly be qualified to tackle all the issues that need to be addressed by such agreements.


 

NewSystemNeeded

(111 posts)
15. The United States is long overdue for a scaling down overseas.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 02:39 PM
Jun 2015

A nation's self-interest should be defined by the interests of a majority of its people, not the majority of its corporations, elite few, and especially anyone outside our borders.

Everything we do should have a net positive benefit to our nation's people to justify any actions we take on an international scale.

kentuck

(111,095 posts)
16. I support less military intervention....
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 02:42 PM
Jun 2015

...and more "fair trade". Not to be confused with "free trade".

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