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magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 12:55 PM Jun 2015

‘Who the Hell is Bernie Sanders?’ These Southerners want everyone to know.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/grass-roots-effort-tries-to-spread-support-for-sanders-for-president/2015/06/16/f73f79c0-1056-11e5-a0dc-2b6f404ff5cf_story.html

More than 100 people streamed into a place called Manuel’s Tavern, one of more than a dozen “People for Bernie” events around the country on this weekend in which Sanders himself would not appear.

In the Atlanta version, it was a gathering of ardent progressives but also relative newcomers to this world, people slightly surprised that it was the rumpled, white-haired Brooklyn native — who speaks of reversing “grotesque” income inequality, getting billionaires out of politics and the need for “political revolution” — who was best articulating their growing unease with the direction of the country.

“If you look at his 12 points,” he said, referring to agenda items such as taxing the wealthiest, breaking up big banks and free college tuition, “they are more aligned with mainstream Americans than other candidates, particularly if you do away with labels — that ‘socialist’ label.”

“I think there is a silent majority that maybe don’t even know they agree with Bernie Sanders,” McClatchey said, and as they began talking about how political stereotypes get in the way of deeper discussions, their attempted conversation was overtaken by an organizer shouting into a microphone.
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‘Who the Hell is Bernie Sanders?’ These Southerners want everyone to know. (Original Post) magical thyme Jun 2015 OP
Manuel’s Tavern is a famous Democratic bar in Atlanta. I used to be a regular there. onehandle Jun 2015 #1
It's where I was born. But I left the South in 1969 and been in California ever since. 2banon Jun 2015 #23
You didn't vote for McGovern? onehandle Jun 2015 #24
Yes I did. It was my first election. 2banon Jun 2015 #25
Me too HassleCat Jun 2015 #28
Interesting. I was a military brat. My dad just finished his second tour. 2banon Jun 2015 #31
Ditto. 20, in college, long lines, never considered Nixon bigbrother05 Jun 2015 #46
McGovern won the WI primary Kevin from WI Jun 2015 #49
Yes even Georgia has pockets of liberal / progressives. We're surrounded by crazy bible thumpers. YOHABLO Jun 2015 #43
Those labels are great for fooling the people. Socialist, hippie, liberal... polichick Jun 2015 #2
I'm proud of those labels RobertEarl Jun 2015 #3
So am I! calimary Jun 2015 #4
I remember being put down here on DU because I was proud of being a Liberal. LiberalArkie Jun 2015 #8
In the early days of this web site Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #18
I'm proud of them too, but principles & helping ppl mean more Duppers Jun 2015 #13
You're a good woman, Duppers Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #20
Thank you! Duppers Jun 2015 #22
But he is not a socialist, he is a Democratic Socialist, big difference. randys1 Jun 2015 #26
^^^ This! ^^^ SoapBox Jun 2015 #42
I'll pick them up and wear them proudly. Their ignorance is no reason Exilednight Jun 2015 #5
Been a proud Democratic Socialist for 25 years. Indepatriot Jun 2015 #19
True but still . . . Depaysement Jun 2015 #33
Socialist, hippie, liberal Kevin from WI Jun 2015 #50
Bernie, Bernie, Bernie . . . Gamecock Lefty Jun 2015 #6
Why are you raining on our parade? WE'RE EXCITED. Avalux Jun 2015 #9
"Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!" Jackilope Jun 2015 #10
I don't have a dog, but maybe I should consider getting one so that I could put a Bernie JDPriestly Jun 2015 #14
"Hillary seems to captivate everyone who sees her" Indepatriot Jun 2015 #11
Hillary Clinton Adds Latina From Labor Department frylock Jun 2015 #15
Hillary Clinton goes unnoticed at Chipotle frylock Jun 2015 #16
"Everyone" was 1 clueless infant posed in front of a TV set - LOL Divernan Jun 2015 #45
You do know Skinner posted a "Hillary went to Chipotle so I did too" marym625 Jun 2015 #17
Do you know anyone..... daleanime Jun 2015 #35
Not a big veggie burger kind of person marym625 Jun 2015 #48
"...do WE need..." We? You just got here tkmorris Jun 2015 #21
If Bernie has a Taco Bell burrito I'm gonna run out and have one Autumn Jun 2015 #27
A dog that hates women? That's a new one on me! bettyellen Jun 2015 #29
Those little toy dogs do get attitude. Autumn Jun 2015 #30
Oh- a toy, that explains it! Didn't know they come in Papillion, those are some gorgeous and um... bettyellen Jun 2015 #37
And people say Democrats can't win the South with progressive policies. nt NewSystemNeeded Jun 2015 #7
THIS is the money line: hifiguy Jun 2015 #12
I'm still convinced the majority is far more liberal than they think they are. arcane1 Jun 2015 #32
+1 daleanime Jun 2015 #36
Bernie cuts through bullshit hifiguy Jun 2015 #39
Fond memories of Manuel's Tavern Thespian2 Jun 2015 #34
Huge K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #38
There's a silent majority that don't even know they agree with Bernie Sanders. PatrickforO Jun 2015 #40
“I think there is a silent majority that maybe don’t even know they agree with Bernie Sanders” Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #41
Primaries are what, six months away? If the Big Mo keeps rolling he'll be heard far and wide. Indepatriot Jun 2015 #44
That's what I keep saying. The debates will also open some eyes and minds. Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #47
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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
1. Manuel’s Tavern is a famous Democratic bar in Atlanta. I used to be a regular there.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 01:00 PM
Jun 2015

Even went to a Democratic Underground meetup there once, when those were a thing.

It's also in the bluest district in all of the South, so there is no surprise that there would be interest in Bernie or any Democrat.

Additionally, few people in Atlanta are Southern natives. I was a rare native Atlantan.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
23. It's where I was born. But I left the South in 1969 and been in California ever since.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 07:10 PM
Jun 2015

I've been a Socialists leftist since I graduated from high school in 1968.

I'm nearly 65 now, and I can't wait til I can actually cast a vote for a real - self identified Leftist for POTUS for the first time in my life.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
24. You didn't vote for McGovern?
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 07:15 PM
Jun 2015

I wasn't old enough to vote at the time, but I had his bumper sticker on my notebook, which did not go over well at my school in Atlanta.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
25. Yes I did. It was my first election.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 07:34 PM
Jun 2015

McGovern definitely was a Liberal. But I wouldn't say he was a Socialist. I don't believe he ever identified as a Socialist. If so, I wasn't aware. But he was a real Liberal. And Nixon, was not.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
28. Me too
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 07:41 PM
Jun 2015

It was my first national election. I almost voted for Nixon. I was in the military, and told my buddies I was going to vote for McGovern. They were horrified! They said McGovern would cut our pay and have us all living under bridges because he hated the military. Anyway, they kept badgering me until I said, "OK, I'll vote for Nixon!" When I got in the voting booth, I actually had my pencil poised over the little oval next to Nixon's name, but I couldn't do it, and I don't know why, even to this day. Something made me change my mind at the last second.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
31. Interesting. I was a military brat. My dad just finished his second tour.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 07:51 PM
Jun 2015

Naturally we were not on good terms. so, i totally get the military culture at the time. except for the "subversives" who I connected up with immediately after graduation and they had become hard core activists vets against the war and we were a community you could say. we might remember a certain vet named John Kerry who was a very different person way back then but not so long ago... and here we are.

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bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
46. Ditto. 20, in college, long lines, never considered Nixon
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 08:59 AM
Jun 2015

Grew up in an Army town, both parents DA civilians. Dad had done 3 civilian tours and older bro had one tour in the AF. Lottery #301 so wouldn't have to go, but wanted it ended for everyone.

Have worked for the Army for almost 30 yrs and now both kids do too, but never regretted that vote and would support a McGovern again. As long as we keep voting Dem, the moral arc will continue to move our way, some just bend it a bit more than others.

Tend to believe the old yellow dog story:
When a YD Dem was sarcastically chided that he would would vote for the Devil himself if he was on the Dem ticket, paused for a second and admitted "Yeah, but not in the primary."

Have heard versions of this many times, but recall Al Gore telling it on his father during his 2000 run.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
43. Yes even Georgia has pockets of liberal / progressives. We're surrounded by crazy bible thumpers.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 12:40 AM
Jun 2015

polichick

(37,152 posts)
2. Those labels are great for fooling the people. Socialist, hippie, liberal...
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 01:01 PM
Jun 2015

All these labels, and more, have been used to keep voters from listening to the message.

If enough people refuse to be manipulated, they can take back their power.

k&r

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
3. I'm proud of those labels
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 01:21 PM
Jun 2015

A socialist, liberal hippie, who is not going to let the warmongers and money-grubbers tell me who I can be.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
18. In the early days of this web site
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:26 PM
Jun 2015

if you had been put down for being a liberal, the other poster would have been tombstoned. How times have changed.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
13. I'm proud of them too, but principles & helping ppl mean more
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 03:13 PM
Jun 2015

than labels. The vast majority of repug voters have been brainwashed about these labels. I want true liberals to be elected. That's the only salvation for this country and I'm for doing whatever it takes.

Labels or no labels, principles and good policies must win.



In fact, I bet if you were to put an *R* label on Bernie, the yokels would vote for him over their other candidates. Labels mean so much to them..."I'm a christian" etc. Yelling "Jesus, Jesus, Jesus" all the time, they get away with murder.

Bottom line is I want our candidate, preferably Bernie, to be elected and I don't mind bitting my tongue a few times if that's what it takes.


randys1

(16,286 posts)
26. But he is not a socialist, he is a Democratic Socialist, big difference.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 07:37 PM
Jun 2015

If we can educate the populace and the idiots, they might vote for him.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
42. ^^^ This! ^^^
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 11:52 PM
Jun 2015

We know what the label Democratic Socialist means but mid-America Pearl Clutchers do not.

It's either educate or drop the label.

 

Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
19. Been a proud Democratic Socialist for 25 years.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:26 PM
Jun 2015

My Consevative friends think I'M the starnge one....

Kevin from WI

(184 posts)
50. Socialist, hippie, liberal
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 11:54 AM
Jun 2015

Sounds like someone I'd vote for. I'd be honored if someone called me that.

I took one of those political surveys and it said line up 96% with Bernie and only 66% with HRC. All Republicans where like single digits. I must also be one of those Socialist, hippie, liberals. Looks like I am in good company.

Gamecock Lefty

(700 posts)
6. Bernie, Bernie, Bernie . . .
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 02:53 PM
Jun 2015

OK, as a Hillary supporter, I also happen to be one that likes and appreciates Sanders and will gladly support 100% whomever wins the Dem nomination.

But do we really need thread after thread when Bernie is introduced to a crowd at (fill in the blank)? "My niece just found out who Sanders is." "My daughter is now supporting Sanders." "Bernie video goes viral." "Former MSNBC staffer leaves to work for Bernie." "Look at my cute dog wearing a Bernie hat."

I get getting the word out about Sanders and trying your best to promote him, but must everything he does be a new thread? What's next, "Bernie eats a veggie burger and vegetarians everywhere are now supporting him?"

5, 4, 3, 2, 1 - before the hits begin . . .

PS - My cute dog has a Hillary bandana!





Avalux

(35,015 posts)
9. Why are you raining on our parade? WE'RE EXCITED.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 02:58 PM
Jun 2015

There's absolutely nothing wrong with posts like the ones you're pointing out. It keeps us motivated and gets other people interested too.

You wrote that expecting people to 'hit' you though, so whatever. Have a great day!!

Jackilope

(819 posts)
10. "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!"
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 03:03 PM
Jun 2015

Sorry, couldn't resist the nod to The Brady Bunch after "Bernie, Bernie, Bernie".

Love the idea of pet accesories. My dog will have a Bernie Bandana as we go walking.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
14. I don't have a dog, but maybe I should consider getting one so that I could put a Bernie
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 03:19 PM
Jun 2015

bandana on it. Hmmmm.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
45. "Everyone" was 1 clueless infant posed in front of a TV set - LOL
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 05:21 AM
Jun 2015

I recall that OP & thinking it was sadly overreaching, but didn't feel compelled to challenge or ridicule it.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
17. You do know Skinner posted a "Hillary went to Chipotle so I did too"
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:18 PM
Jun 2015

Post, right? So if Bernie gets a veggie burger, expect it.



tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
21. "...do WE need..." We? You just got here
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:36 PM
Jun 2015

Look I don't normally care how many or how often a person posts, but don't you think you're a bit wet behind the ears to be chastising DU about what "we" need or don't?

Autumn

(45,084 posts)
27. If Bernie has a Taco Bell burrito I'm gonna run out and have one
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 07:40 PM
Jun 2015

and I'm gonna post pics of it too. Of course I'll come home and throw up first because as nasty as the food is at Chipolte, Taco Bell is worse. My kids and Grandson know who Bernie is and they are voting for him. Myself? If I was sick of seeing post after post about Hillary I wouldjust trash thread using the keyword Hillary, but I am one of those people who just has to see everything that is going on so I won't do that .

PS- I have a wonderful Papillon that I adore who has me trained oh so well that positively hates other women, I think he wouldn't like Hillary either so he must be a Bernie supporter. He is much too dignified to ever wear a Bernie bandana though!

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
37. Oh- a toy, that explains it! Didn't know they come in Papillion, those are some gorgeous and um...
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 08:54 PM
Jun 2015

Very peppy dogs. My brother has one called Jacks, and now he also calls his wife Jackie Jacks also.
We're awful with names in my family!

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
12. THIS is the money line:
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 03:08 PM
Jun 2015

"I think there is a silent majority that maybe don’t even know they agree with Bernie Sanders,”

Damn straight there is.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
32. I'm still convinced the majority is far more liberal than they think they are.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 08:05 PM
Jun 2015

Once you get past the slogans and the buzz words, there is remarkable agreement.

And nobody beats Bernie at getting past the bullshit!

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
34. Fond memories of Manuel's Tavern
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 08:18 PM
Jun 2015

In the old days, it was worth the price of a beer just to read the toilet walls...
If you wanted to meet all the local Democrats, get yourself over to Manuel's...Yes, I was born and raised around Atlanta...with an undergraduate degree from Georgia State...so hanging out a Manuel's was the thing to do if you were a liberal...

Bernie Sanders' progressive policies are a perfect fit for the patrons of this great Tavern...

PatrickforO

(14,574 posts)
40. There's a silent majority that don't even know they agree with Bernie Sanders.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 10:21 PM
Jun 2015

Very true. Bernie IS more aligned with mainstream Americans than other candidates. I'm pretty excited that he's running.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
41. “I think there is a silent majority that maybe don’t even know they agree with Bernie Sanders”
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 11:39 PM
Jun 2015

And HRC better hope they don't find out.

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