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There is a lot of blaming the victim going on, but you know who isn't blaming the victims? Structural engineers who visited the site yesterday.
Dry rot could be factor in Berkeley balcony collapse, engineers say
The wood was so deteriorated at the balcony site that when workers on the scene touched the wood, parts of it broke off, said Darrick Hom, president of the Structural Engineers Assn. of Northern California and an Oakland structural engineer for Estructure, who went to the scene Tuesday afternoon.
It was decayed. They were touching it with their hand and pieces were coming off. Obviously, if you touch a wood beam on your deck, it should not come off in your hand, Hom said.
Read more at:
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It appeared to be shredded and darkened and had all the appearance of wood that had been totally compromised by dry rot, he said.
The balcony itself should have been able to support the weight of 13 or 14 people, he said.
If you had 14 people, and they were all -- I dont know -- football players, and they were jumping up and down, you would get a fair amount of deflection, depending on how well the railing was tied back, St. Onge said. But if the [wooden supports] were designed even under minimal standards, it should still have held.
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There are other clues that the wood had rotted. There is visible mold in one of the broken wooden joists. And it broke into short fibers at the failure point, a sign of dry rot; if the wood had not rotted, you would see long slender splinters. It would look like a broken baseball bat, said Bernard Cuzzillo, a consulting engineer who has a doctorate in mechanical engineering at UC Berkeley who visited the balcony scene Tuesday.
And when you look at what used to be the floor of the balcony, much of the wooden joists that once supported it have disintegrated.
Cuzzillo offered his interpretation of what happened:
The seven horizontal wooden joists that supported the balcony broke. The deck folded straight down 90 degrees, while the guardrail assembly flipped upside down.
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And the very startling thing is that only remnants of the joists remain in those locations, Cuzzillo said. Youre basically looking at what had been the joists, lined up now vertically, and now mostly gone, because theyre rotten. So basically, almost all thats left of the joists are its shadows.
Added Cuzzillo, It became degraded over time due to dry rot. But then it completely disintegrated in the incident, in the fall, when it broke off.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-dry-rot-berkeley-balcony-collapse-20150616-story.html#page=1
CountAllVotes
(20,870 posts)Those stumps you see should have been made out of steel, not wood.
to the contractors that built this POS!
& recommend!!
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)CountAllVotes
(20,870 posts)and Irish ones at that and they are all saying the same word -- steel!
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Lucky for them, it was only the 2nd floor and they survived, but with fractured skulls and broken vertebrae and permanent damage
Needless to say, all three of them had severe flashbacks when this latest collapse happened!
villager
(26,001 posts)But perhaps it's not surprising, alas.
I posted something similar from a Bay Area source -- the property had been under investigation for awhile for various code violations....
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)without much success.
most of the people calling these kids (now deceased) "dumb" post their jabs then leave.
villager
(26,001 posts)Corporations are never responsible, and the victims of their negligence always are!
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)The excerpts I posted were from *that* LA Times article.
Fixed now.
CountAllVotes
(20,870 posts)I heard on the news that the balconies are for "cosmetic" reasons only. Now it seems that the contractor that built this water damaged, dry-rot ridden, likely termite invested hell has been sued more than one time for balcony issues.
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Berkeley-mayor-says-water-damage-probably-to-6333561.php
They've paid out millions it says so far. Add another several million to that for compensation AT LEAST!
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