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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 05:11 PM Jun 2015

Jeb Bush: Next President Should Privatize Social Security

http://www.ibtimes.com/jeb-bush-next-president-should-privatize-social-security-1969720

Jeb Bush thinks the next president will need to privatize Social Security, he said at a town hall meeting in New Hampshire on Tuesday -- acknowledging that his brother attempted to do so and failed. It’s a position sure to be attacked by both Republicans and Democrats.

Bush has previously said he would support raising the retirement age to get Social Security benefits, a common position among Republicans. And he backed a partial privatization that House Republicans have proposed that would allow people to choose private accounts.

The future of Social Security has become one of the most hotly contested issues in national politics, and both parties have accused the other of threatening its survival. Republicans argue that Democrats' refusal to change the program will lead to its bankruptcy. Democrats say privatization would kill the program and leave elderly Americans at the mercy of the stock market. Plus, any discussion of changing the system often creates fear in older Americans beyond or nearing the age of retirement, who also tend to vote in the greatest numbers.

Republicans have split on the answer to fix the program, which could begin to pay out more than it takes in as more baby boomers retire and younger generations aren’t able to pay enough into the system to keep it going. Understanding the fear privatization proposals create, some Republicans have argued that the retirement age should be increased or means-testing established instead. Many Democrats advocate raising the ceiling for the tax that funds it.


Read my lips: No new Bushes!
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Jeb Bush: Next President Should Privatize Social Security (Original Post) KamaAina Jun 2015 OP
NO difference really between Jeb and Hillary, right? randys1 Jun 2015 #1
sure there's a difference. But that he's awful doesn't make her good. cali Jun 2015 #12
Especially since she likes profitized healthcare and wants to replace public schools with charters Doctor_J Jun 2015 #14
All of THIS especially footage of Clinton offering help to Ryan at the capitol c. 2012, appalachiablue Jun 2015 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author NoJusticeNoPeace Jun 2015 #27
IIRC, Obama put that issue on the table hifiguy Jun 2015 #15
So Hillary wants to privatize SS ... Yes, or No? Its an easy question. JoePhilly Jun 2015 #28
That would be very, very, scary..... daleanime Jun 2015 #36
Read up on Hillary and Pete Peterson. Scuba Jun 2015 #21
Come out and say that Hillary wants to privatize Soc Sec randys1 Jun 2015 #22
Pete Peterson the Presidents' Plural Friend? Octafish Jun 2015 #23
That's the one. Scuba Jun 2015 #32
keep talking jebby you'll singlehandedly hand us the w.h. Romeo.lima333 Jun 2015 #2
Jeb can perform anatomically physical acts upon himself. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #3
Talk about thrashing about to find a Wellstone ruled Jun 2015 #4
well said, sir. eom Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #45
You lose Jeb. PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #5
GOPee just keeps recycling their old, failed ideas. City Lights Jun 2015 #6
I keep telling everybody: Jeb doesn't want to be President. Here's proof. nt Nay Jun 2015 #7
I thought he was the Smart One. Can both be so dumb? appalachiablue Jun 2015 #20
Yes. hifiguy Jun 2015 #26
I hope every Boomer in the country heard him say that. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2015 #8
Raise the cap cali Jun 2015 #9
^^THis!^^ Pharaoh Jun 2015 #37
That's it. That's all it would take. N/t A HERETIC I AM Jun 2015 #41
5th Rec. thanks for writing about Bush. We need more of that here. nt Hekate Jun 2015 #10
Keep digging, asshole. hifiguy Jun 2015 #11
We know where Bernie will come down on this issue. Let's see how the other Dem candidates feel Doctor_J Jun 2015 #13
On privatization? I don't think HRC is gonna go there. KamaAina Jun 2015 #16
Then let's hear it. Doctor_J Jun 2015 #17
Has she called for it?? JoePhilly Jun 2015 #30
Has she said she will resist/veto????? Doctor_J Jun 2015 #39
Oh look! zappaman Jun 2015 #18
How stupid do you have to be lancer78 Jun 2015 #24
But, but, but he's the smart one! KamaAina Jun 2015 #25
He actually is lancer78 Jun 2015 #29
We're talking about Jeb! KamaAina Jun 2015 #31
Some issues with the line on Barbara Bush's side it seems. appalachiablue Jun 2015 #33
"The stock market is the worlds biggest casino." LondonReign2 Jun 2015 #46
Uh-huh lancer78 Jun 2015 #47
Ok. Anyone investing on 1/1/2009 would be up 106% now LondonReign2 Jun 2015 #48
That one statement should cost him the election. nt ladjf Jun 2015 #34
Well why not, Jeb? gratuitous Jun 2015 #35
May as well secondvariety Jun 2015 #38
that would have been swonderful in 2007. pansypoo53219 Jun 2015 #40
Anybody who hears this and votes for this dingaling ought to be stripped of their SS & Medicare. nt raccoon Jun 2015 #42
Stay out the bushes... kentuck Jun 2015 #43
Raise minimum wage. Reduce outsourcing to India. lostnfound Jun 2015 #44
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
12. sure there's a difference. But that he's awful doesn't make her good.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:08 PM
Jun 2015

I don't trust her to not compromise with republicans, and that includes on social security.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
14. Especially since she likes profitized healthcare and wants to replace public schools with charters
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:36 PM
Jun 2015

and her husband told Paul Ryan that he would help Ryan get Medicare cuts.

appalachiablue

(41,132 posts)
19. All of THIS especially footage of Clinton offering help to Ryan at the capitol c. 2012,
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:45 PM
Jun 2015

am still not over that image in my mind. Thought it was about SS and the budget, maybe not. But whatever, it was 'illuminating'. If I start on Arne Duncan, charters and corporate neoliberals running education there'll be no end!

Response to Doctor_J (Reply #14)

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
15. IIRC, Obama put that issue on the table
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:38 PM
Jun 2015

during one of the Repuke-induced shutdowns. And he embraced the results of the Cat Food Commission.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
28. So Hillary wants to privatize SS ... Yes, or No? Its an easy question.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:55 PM
Jun 2015

If she's running against Jeb ... then what?

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
36. That would be very, very, scary.....
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 08:08 PM
Jun 2015

Jeb's only chance at the WH is running against Hillary. We would see record low voting totals. Just because I would hold my nose and vote doesn't mean every one else would.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
22. Come out and say that Hillary wants to privatize Soc Sec
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:48 PM
Jun 2015

If it is true, then I will be thankful to you for the info.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
23. Pete Peterson the Presidents' Plural Friend?
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:50 PM
Jun 2015
Peter G. Peterson, born June 5, 1926, is a controversial Wall Street billionaire who uses his wealth to underwrite numerous organizations and PR campaigns to generate public support for slashing Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, citing concerns over "unsustainable" federal budget deficits. In 2007, he made a fortune from the public offering of the private equity firm he co-founded, Blackstone Group, and pledged to spend $1 billion of this money to "fix America's key fiscal-sustainability problems." He endowed this money to the Peter G. Peterson Foundation, which he launched in 2008 (see below for more).[1] His son, Michael A. Peterson, is the President and Chief Operating Officer of the foundation.

Move over, George Soros and the Koch brothers. The Los Angeles Times has dubbed Peterson "the most influential billionaire business figure in national politics. . . . He isn't content merely to express concern about the federal deficit. His particular targets are Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, which he calls 'entitlement' programs and which he wants to cut back in a manner that would strike deeply at the middle class."[2]

From 1963 to 1971, Peterson was the Chairman and CEO of Bell and Howell Corporation. He also worked briefly in the administration of President Richard M. Nixon as Assistant to the President for International Economic Affairs (1971) and as Secretary of Commerce (1972). He also served as a chairman of Nixon's National Commission on Productivity and as the U.S. chairman of the "U.S.-Soviet Commercial Commission."[3]

Peterson was later the Chairman and CEO of the now bankrupt Lehman Brothers (1973-1977) and its successor firm, Lehman Brothers, Kuhn, Loeb (1977-1984). He is also the former Chairman and co-founder of the private equity firm, Blackstone Group, and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. He was also Chairman for the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the founding Chairman of the Institute for International Economics (IIE), and the co-founder of the Concord Coalition.[4]

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http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Peter_Peterson


THAT Pete Peterson?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
8. I hope every Boomer in the country heard him say that.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 05:58 PM
Jun 2015

And I hope most people understand by now what happens when huge money programs are privatized.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
11. Keep digging, asshole.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:08 PM
Jun 2015

Just keep digging.

Just what the country needs - another idiot son of the asshole.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
16. On privatization? I don't think HRC is gonna go there.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:38 PM
Jun 2015

She might waffle on stuff like raising the age, though.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
24. How stupid do you have to be
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:50 PM
Jun 2015

Privatizing Social Security would be no different then letting Granny take her money down to the nearest Casino. The stock market is the worlds biggest casino.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
29. He actually is
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:55 PM
Jun 2015

I got to meet poppy bush during high school and escorted Barbara during a parade. Poppy Bush might have been a cutthroat, but the man does have some intelligence.

Interesting fact, Barbara Bush is a direct descendant of the only American president not to win his own party's nomination for a second term because he was hated so much. W is definitely his mothers' son.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
46. "The stock market is the worlds biggest casino."
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 09:49 AM
Jun 2015

Well no, not really. Unless you know of a casino that actually pays you out, on average, around 8% per year.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
47. Uh-huh
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 11:30 AM
Jun 2015

Tell that to people in early 2009. The stock market is a casino where luck determines if you make money or not.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
48. Ok. Anyone investing on 1/1/2009 would be up 106% now
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 12:23 PM
Jun 2015

Using 1/1/2007 as the basis, you'd be up 45% as of today.

If you sell at the bottom you're doing it wrong.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
35. Well why not, Jeb?
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 08:01 PM
Jun 2015

After all, it's not like you personally are going to be surviving on those benefits, and your vulture capitalist pals need another piggy bank to raid now that they've run through all the funds set aside for working people's pensions. There's just not that many piles of money to plunder anymore, but social security remains the holy grail for venture capitalists and speculators to get their greedy mitts on.

Let's see if the American voters are as stupid as the Republicans think they are.

secondvariety

(1,245 posts)
38. May as well
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 08:17 PM
Jun 2015

bring back the poor houses. Pensions about gone, 401ks are like a Vegas crap shoot, SS under assault and pillaged. I'll be all right (Union pension), but I worry about my kids.

pansypoo53219

(20,976 posts)
40. that would have been swonderful in 2007.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 09:09 PM
Jun 2015

pecause 401 fucking k's are better than pensions. NO MORE TINKLE!

OH OH! wall street will LOVE TO SKIM MORE MONEY OFF THE TOP!!!!!!

lostnfound

(16,179 posts)
44. Raise minimum wage. Reduce outsourcing to India.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 09:26 AM
Jun 2015

Those are ways to increase the revenues into social security fund.

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