The RW Catholics are freaking out!

But shout loudly.

Glad to hear my Pope is freaking them out.

"While Catholics have been swing voters since Richard Nixon’s second term, white Catholics are now identifying as Republican by historic margins. According to the most recent polling from the Pew Research Center, 53 percent of white Catholics now favor the GOP, versus 39 percent who favor the Democrats—the largest point spread in the history of the Pew poll. And for the first time, white Catholics are more Republican than the voting group usually considered the ultimate Republicans: white Protestants (a designation that includes both mainline and evangelical Protestants)."



http://www.salon.com/2015/03/15/the_democratic_party_is_facing_a_catholic_apocalypse/

The number who identify as Catholic is far higher than the number who turn up in the pews each Sunday -- and far more Democratic.

and ask the regular Church goers what their affiliation is.

Vote D under Clinton, vote R under Dubya (until the war is proven a lie) and then vote sharply R as soon as Obama won.

with gays and women in general, but on climate change and poverty, he's light years ahead of prior Popes.

but he is headed in the right direction on some big issues. And none are bigger than the future habitability of the only planet we have. None.

Who knows what more he can accomplish.

It's not an act or a thing he puts up with for the church's sake. He is a homophobe to the max. He spent this morning calling out gender roles in parentage, singling out same sex parents, which is a continuation of his 'same sex parents adopting children is discrimination against the child' schtick. He also spent a little time crapping on single parents, but his primary goal was to say vile shit about gay people.

He's not going to lead change for the church on this because he himself holds to regressive doctrine.

Whatever his other flaws, I'm glad he's speaking up strongly for the environment.

Wouldn't global warming mean less people? And if the pope wanted less people wouldn't he do nothing on global warming? Maybe my problem is trying to understand the foxian mind.

The Nazi.

Blank frank is just better at the pr thing.

As if Malthus were wrong. And the earth is flat.

I don't believe what I'm hearing from pope Francis. But go for it, man. I love it.

loving watching this one.

Pope infallibility (per he hears from God)

vs.

Innerrancy of the Bible (people writing sections heard from God)

For the past couple of decades (post Kennedy) far right Catholics (with some Bishops very vocal) joined with far right evangelicals on an increasingly political agenda. Now the Catholics (esp those high up Bishops) have their loyalties tested: is the Pope infallible - and if not - how are any of your preachings more infallible than his? And then what is the point of the Papacy?

For Evangelicals - if Catholics who are more politically than religiously aligned - go against their faith leader (infallibility), do you have to fall in line on every issue with your leaders on political lines - per inerrancy (literal readings of the bible) ... or *gasp* are there different ways of reading the same passages in the bible (and if so - how do you tell what is the right per what interpretation gets the inerrancy correct?)

Not Catholic.. but "Go Pope Frances, Go!)

Pope Francis said Monday that "many powerful people don't want peace because they live off war". The Argentine pontiff made the hard-hitting comment in response to a question from one of the 7,000 children taking part in an audience held with the Peace Factory organisation. "This is serious," Francis told the children.

"Some powerful people make their living with the production of arms.

"It's the industry of death".

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/11/1384007/-Pope-Francis-Many-powerful-people-don-t-want-peace-because-they-live-off-war