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Omaha Steve

(99,674 posts)
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 06:37 AM Jun 2015

AP BIG story: Defying conventions, Sanders emerges as a Clinton challenger



Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., center, accompanied by, from left, Rep. Tim Ryan, D-Ohio, Rep. Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio, and Rep. Brendan Boyle, D-Pa., speaks about labor issues, Thursday, June 18, 2015, on Capitol Hill in Washington. (AP Photo/Lauren Victoria Burke)

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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/7dfb07d5079144f0b4f0615d3e1db3e6/defying-conventions-sanders-emerges-clinton-challenger

By KEN THOMAS

INDIANOLA, Iowa (AP) — Bernie Sanders likes to call it "practicing democracy." He doesn't take the stage to a blaring soundtrack. He doesn't have a teleprompter or a phalanx of Secret Service agents surrounding him. But when his Brooklyn accent booms out at a campaign stop in rural Iowa, heads nod along in approval.

"What I'm doing in this campaign is trying to tell the people the truth — but a truth which is not heard a whole lot in Washington or discussed a lot in the media," Sanders said recently at a picnic in Iowa's Warren County, south of Des Moines.

"So let me lay it out on the table for you," he said. "You're living in a country today which has more wealth and income inequality than any major industrialized nation on earth."

In a race for the Democratic presidential nomination with Hillary Rodham Clinton, the blunt talk about the economy and the gap between the rich and poor is working for Sanders. The independent senator from Vermont is an unconventional messenger at a time when many politicians test-drive what they want to say in polls and with focus groups.

FULL story at link.



I'm standing to Bernie's left in my yellow AFSCME shirt at the picnic in Indianola.

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AP BIG story: Defying conventions, Sanders emerges as a Clinton challenger (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jun 2015 OP
He is NOT the chosen one. nc4bo Jun 2015 #1
also - don't travel in small planes nt LiberalElite Jun 2015 #4
Results of Jury zeemike Jun 2015 #16
After all, it is obvious that our party's leaders do not need to arrange for truedelphi Jun 2015 #22
. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #27
REALLY??? for Good God's sake- LiberalElite Jun 2015 #23
That is theeeeeee most idiotic alert I've seen. cui bono Jun 2015 #31
I worry about him. LuvNewcastle Jun 2015 #5
as a 'fringe candidate' they were already calling him a loon. redruddyred Jun 2015 #8
And as we just saw once again, a lot of ignorant crazy people! Dustlawyer Jun 2015 #11
His VP pick should be someone that they're even more afraid of... clayton72 Jun 2015 #9
How about Bill DeBlasio? PADemD Jun 2015 #12
Possible, will have to find out more about her.... daleanime Jun 2015 #28
All the way to the white house madokie Jun 2015 #2
K&R LiberalElite Jun 2015 #3
this is no surpise to those of us who have been paying attention redruddyred Jun 2015 #6
The surprise is that the AP covered him. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #15
They're finally getting it. He's NOT a "fringe" candidate. Vinca Jun 2015 #7
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #10
But New York zentrum Jun 2015 #13
If the New York party SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #14
Might there be a silver lining if Bernie is not on the NY ballot? snagglepuss Jun 2015 #24
Dunno - I'm not a political or psychological expert. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #25
What about NATIONAL convention delegates? Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #29
Did they let Dean on the ballot? He wasn't a registered Dem, either. Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #19
Good question. zentrum Jun 2015 #20
Obama wasn't a registered Democrat either. In Illinois, you don't register your party hedda_foil Jun 2015 #21
Oh, that's interesting... cui bono Jun 2015 #32
"He rarely mentions that tax rates in such countries are far higher than in the U.S". SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #17
we got your back Bernie!!! AnAzulTexas Jun 2015 #18
Take away the contender to Hillary shit, and just listen to him, and orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #26
Bernie is becoming a voice Aerows Jun 2015 #30

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
1. He is NOT the chosen one.
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 06:43 AM
Jun 2015

I'm nearly completely confident about that but the more attractive a candidate he becomes to the masses, the more of a threat he becomes to establishment (and other powers that be).

Watch your back Bernie or have a really good crew do it for you!

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
16. Results of Jury
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:41 AM
Jun 2015

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

At best this is CT; at worst, implying that Clinton campaign or DNC would try to kill him.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:32 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: BS alert. Again.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Bullshit alert.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Stupid alert.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Eye roll. Desperate in adding your own thoughts to what the reply was about?
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: This post is disruptive

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
22. After all, it is obvious that our party's leaders do not need to arrange for
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 06:53 PM
Jun 2015

plane-assassinations of its populist leaders -- there are higher powers that cause that to happen.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
23. REALLY??? for Good God's sake-
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:10 PM
Jun 2015

I wasn't thinking of Clinton's fans. It never occurred to me. Somebody protesteth too much. And as for the CT smear, whoever alerted on me could have asked me what I meant instead of just assuming I'm part of the tin hat brigade. But then, I'm a Bernie supporter and they're not.

Thanks for letting me know.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
31. That is theeeeeee most idiotic alert I've seen.
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 01:43 AM
Jun 2015

WTF does that comment have to do with HRC campaign or the DNC? Really reaching on DU now to make Sanders supporters look bad. The talking point is bad enough. Geez, it will be, um, interesting to see what the next round of tactics brings after all the ones currently in use keep failing.

Hey alerter, your actions are not making your targets look bad. Capiche?

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
5. I worry about him.
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:31 AM
Jun 2015

There are a lot of people who would like him out of the way, people who are accustomed to getting what they want. If he goes on to the general and wins, it will be a miracle, not because the people voted for him but because we were actually given the choice.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
8. as a 'fringe candidate' they were already calling him a loon.
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:56 AM
Jun 2015

bernie's a smart guy, and eloquent. I know he can handle himself.

but, if we get nothing else from his candidacy, at least this is an excellent opportunity for progressive networking.

clayton72

(135 posts)
9. His VP pick should be someone that they're even more afraid of...
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:19 AM
Jun 2015

Clinton had Gore.
Obama has Biden.
Who could Bernie pick that they're even more scared of? Warren, yes, of course, but too obvious. Kshama Sawant comes to mind. She's more socialist than Bernie!

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
6. this is no surpise to those of us who have been paying attention
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:52 AM
Jun 2015

I canvassed nh last cycle and I know where my people are.
I don't know abt the rest of the country, but, with a little bit of elbow grease, I can see bernie winning the primaries here.
of course the msm is the last to know, a testiment to how out of touch they are.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
13. But New York
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:25 AM
Jun 2015

…..may not allow him on the primary ballot.

This is a real problem. The Democrats force Sanders supporters into a 3rd Party which they really aren't. I want to only vote in the Democratic Primary and am not an Independent …..unless the powers that be in the party give me only pre-determined choices.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
14. If the New York party
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:33 AM
Jun 2015

Doesn't figure out some way to get Bernie on the ballot, it will be glaringly obvious that they have no concern for regular people.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
24. Might there be a silver lining if Bernie is not on the NY ballot?
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:04 PM
Jun 2015

This could put the backs up of a lot of people who are on the fence. It also could make Bernie events draw bigger crowds as people would want to know why Dems are afraid of him which is how everyone would interpret such a move.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
32. Oh, that's interesting...
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 01:45 AM
Jun 2015

They've set a precedent then. So if they don't allow him on we'll know there's ill will involved.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
17. "He rarely mentions that tax rates in such countries are far higher than in the U.S".
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:41 AM
Jun 2015

Yeah, they (AP) just had to get that in. Last I heard, most people there feel they get their money's worth.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
30. Bernie is becoming a voice
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:22 PM
Jun 2015

that people can't ignore.

I love it.

He's not inevitable, but then again, no one is.

A large percentage of Americans are sick of Wall Street excesses and their ability to get away with anything. They are going to look at those in bed with Wall Street with suspicion if not outright disdain.

It is time to rethink our nation's governance, and the same leadership that has favored corporations over people isn't going to work anymore. You can't say you support "small business" when you tax the hell out of small business owners (genuine small business owners) in favor of reducing taxes on conglomerates that structure their organizations so that they fall under the letter of the law as "small business" while being anything but.

Bernie Sanders has spoken up about this. The usual suspects just paint it as a pipe dream and that we all want ponies. They ignore the fact that most of us are tired of shoveling the manure their own rides inflict upon us as a country.

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