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still_one

(92,302 posts)
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:34 AM Jun 2015

Texas wants its gold back from the feds

Deep in the bowels of an office building in lower Manhattan sits more than 500,000 gold bars, with a combined weight of nearly 7,000 tons. They are in the custody of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, which is holding them for the U.S. government, foreign governments, state governments, other central banks, and official international organizations.

Some of Texas' gold reserves are there too, and now they want them back.

Last week, Gov. Greg Abbot signed HB 483, a law creating what is likely the first-ever state-level gold bullion and precious metal depository.

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However, it's no secret that many in Texas have long talked of seceding from the federal government. Having a healthy gold reserve would make establishing a currency a lot easier, to say nothing of providing a solid foundation for true economic independence, and some say the Texas depository could be a first step in that direction..

Conservatives in the state have ratcheted up the rhetoric around secession in recent years. Earlier this year, a controversy erupted around a multi-state U.S. military training exercise dubbed "Jade Helm 15." It led to wild Internet-fueled suspicions that the war simulation was really a hostile military takeover.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-law-first-state-gold-bullion-depository-federal-reserve/

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Texas wants its gold back from the feds (Original Post) still_one Jun 2015 OP
What gold? hobbit709 Jun 2015 #1
Texas' gold? I don't understand why they are hanging with the seceding in Texas. It is a falsehood Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #2
That is Abbott for ya still_one Jun 2015 #10
HELL NO!! Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #13
Who cares. Let them have it. TampaAnimusVortex Jun 2015 #3
As soon as Texas returns all the federal handouts and stops fearmongering over military exercises....fair enough? Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #5
Why would they need to if its theirs? TampaAnimusVortex Jun 2015 #6
I see you. Jade Helm. Boo! Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #8
Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #11
Jury results Blue_Adept Jun 2015 #20
Whatever it costs to build, maintain, and guard a facility secure enough to stash $1 billion of gold LanternWaste Jun 2015 #17
Go pound sand Texas. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #4
no sand around here...just clay FYI snooper2 Jun 2015 #9
That is Sooooo funny, I forgot to laugh onecaliberal Jun 2015 #15
! snooper2 Jun 2015 #18
Fat chance newfie11 Jun 2015 #7
The Feds don't even seem to have Germany's gold that they parked with them. nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author onecaliberal Jun 2015 #21
First, deduct every penny they've ever taken from procon Jun 2015 #14
Texas gold or Mexico Gold? B Calm Jun 2015 #16
Juanita Jean did a great job on this stupid plan Gothmog Jun 2015 #19

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. Texas' gold? I don't understand why they are hanging with the seceding in Texas. It is a falsehood
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:41 AM
Jun 2015

A new agreement was signed after the Civil War which is after the Texas independence of 1836. Just dumb moves.

TampaAnimusVortex

(785 posts)
3. Who cares. Let them have it.
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:44 AM
Jun 2015

What's the problem? If they have gold stored somewhere and want it back, so be it. The world will keep spinning.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
5. As soon as Texas returns all the federal handouts and stops fearmongering over military exercises....fair enough?
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:47 AM
Jun 2015

TampaAnimusVortex

(785 posts)
6. Why would they need to if its theirs?
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:56 AM
Jun 2015

Besides, I just googled Texas net tax and practically the first link that popped up was this.

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/02/is-your-state-a-net-giver-or-taker-of-federal-taxes/

Looks like Texas gets 91 cents for each dollar they pay in taxes.

That said, what do you care if Texas holds their gold? Who else are you prepared to use force on to prevent them from holding their own wealth?

Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #8)

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
20. Jury results
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 12:15 PM
Jun 2015
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"Let me know when your willing to take personal responsibility, pick up a gun, and go make others do your bidding - so I can tell them to deal with you as they should. Until then, your just so much static."

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
17. Whatever it costs to build, maintain, and guard a facility secure enough to stash $1 billion of gold
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 11:50 AM
Jun 2015

One problem (of many) being that whatever it costs to build, maintain, and guard a facility secure enough to stash $1 billion of gold in will essentially subtract from whatever investment return the holdings offer.

Though no doubt, you have a specific and valid reason why those costs should in fact, be redundantly paid again?

Response to newfie11 (Reply #7)

procon

(15,805 posts)
14. First, deduct every penny they've ever taken from
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 11:19 AM
Jun 2015

the federal treasury to prop up their irresponsible fiscal policies. For a state that is as dependent on on the federal government to keep them afloat with massive infusions of money from American taxpayers, Texas should be grateful they don't get billed for the bailouts every time one of their grossly underfunded and incompetently managed programs fails.

I'm am so glad I don't live there anymore. Twenty years ago I was flabbergasted to see so many people glorifying their own stupidity and embracing ignorance like a badge of triumph; nothing has changed.

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