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Deep in the bowels of an office building in lower Manhattan sits more than 500,000 gold bars, with a combined weight of nearly 7,000 tons. They are in the custody of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, which is holding them for the U.S. government, foreign governments, state governments, other central banks, and official international organizations.
Some of Texas' gold reserves are there too, and now they want them back.
Last week, Gov. Greg Abbot signed HB 483, a law creating what is likely the first-ever state-level gold bullion and precious metal depository.
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However, it's no secret that many in Texas have long talked of seceding from the federal government. Having a healthy gold reserve would make establishing a currency a lot easier, to say nothing of providing a solid foundation for true economic independence, and some say the Texas depository could be a first step in that direction..
Conservatives in the state have ratcheted up the rhetoric around secession in recent years. Earlier this year, a controversy erupted around a multi-state U.S. military training exercise dubbed "Jade Helm 15." It led to wild Internet-fueled suspicions that the war simulation was really a hostile military takeover.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-law-first-state-gold-bullion-depository-federal-reserve/
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)A new agreement was signed after the Civil War which is after the Texas independence of 1836. Just dumb moves.
still_one
(92,302 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)TampaAnimusVortex
(785 posts)What's the problem? If they have gold stored somewhere and want it back, so be it. The world will keep spinning.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)TampaAnimusVortex
(785 posts)Besides, I just googled Texas net tax and practically the first link that popped up was this.
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/02/is-your-state-a-net-giver-or-taker-of-federal-taxes/
Looks like Texas gets 91 cents for each dollar they pay in taxes.
That said, what do you care if Texas holds their gold? Who else are you prepared to use force on to prevent them from holding their own wealth?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #8)
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Blue_Adept
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LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)One problem (of many) being that whatever it costs to build, maintain, and guard a facility secure enough to stash $1 billion of gold in will essentially subtract from whatever investment return the holdings offer.
Though no doubt, you have a specific and valid reason why those costs should in fact, be redundantly paid again?
onecaliberal
(32,878 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)onecaliberal
(32,878 posts)newfie11
(8,159 posts)That's long gone.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Response to newfie11 (Reply #7)
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procon
(15,805 posts)the federal treasury to prop up their irresponsible fiscal policies. For a state that is as dependent on on the federal government to keep them afloat with massive infusions of money from American taxpayers, Texas should be grateful they don't get billed for the bailouts every time one of their grossly underfunded and incompetently managed programs fails.
I'm am so glad I don't live there anymore. Twenty years ago I was flabbergasted to see so many people glorifying their own stupidity and embracing ignorance like a badge of triumph; nothing has changed.