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napkinz

(17,199 posts)
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 04:14 PM Jun 2015

To Borrow From Ronald Reagan, "Tear Down This Flag!"






Take Down the Confederate Flag—Now

TA-NEHISI COATES
JUN 18, 2015

Last night, Dylann Roof walked into a Charleston church, sat for an hour, and then killed nine people. Roof’s crime cannot be divorced from the ideology of white supremacy which long animated his state nor from its potent symbol—the Confederate flag. Visitors to Charleston have long been treated to South Carolina’s attempt to clean its history and depict its secession as something other than a war to guarantee the enslavement of the majority of its residents. This notion is belied by any serious interrogation of the Civil War and the primary documents of its instigators. Yet the Confederate battle flag—the flag of Dylann Roof—still flies on the Capitol grounds in Columbia.

The Confederate flag’s defenders often claim it represents “heritage not hate.” I agree—the heritage of White Supremacy was not so much birthed by hate as by the impulse toward plunder. Dylann Roof plundered nine different bodies last night, plundered nine different families of an original member, plundered nine different communities of a singular member. An entire people are poorer for his action. The flag that Roof embraced, which many South Carolinians embrace, does not stand in opposition to this act—it endorses it. That the Confederate flag is the symbol of of white supremacists is evidenced by the very words of those who birthed it:

Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth...


This moral truth—“that the negro is not equal to the white man”—is exactly what animated Dylann Roof. More than any individual actor, in recent history, Roof honored his flag in exactly the manner it always demanded—with human sacrifice.

read more: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/06/take-down-the-confederate-flag-now/396290/
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To Borrow From Ronald Reagan, "Tear Down This Flag!" (Original Post) napkinz Jun 2015 OP
r&k Angry Dragon Jun 2015 #1
thanks Angry Dragon napkinz Jun 2015 #2
just trying to help Angry Dragon Jun 2015 #3
let's hope enough speak up ... we're contending with this ---> napkinz Jun 2015 #5
She makes enough sense for the GOP Angry Dragon Jun 2015 #6
True, but that is a bar a snake could leap. hifiguy Jun 2015 #8
One does not want to set it too high Angry Dragon Jun 2015 #9
yep, guns in bars! napkinz Jun 2015 #11
The Confederate Flag struggle4progress Jun 2015 #4
"Civil War re-enactors raised a slightly different ... flag" napkinz Jun 2015 #10
Agreed. hifiguy Jun 2015 #7
the problem is the people to whom we have to present those watertight arguments ... napkinz Jun 2015 #12
kick napkinz Jun 2015 #13
What a quote. I heard it referenced on TV today. calimary Jun 2015 #14
"what animated Dylann Roof" more into the mind of this monster ... napkinz Jun 2015 #15

struggle4progress

(118,319 posts)
4. The Confederate Flag
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 04:29 PM
Jun 2015
... Nearly 100 years after the beginning of the Civil War, in the late 1950s, the South Carolina Senate put the Confederate Battle Flag in its chamber, and the legislature created a Confederate War Centennial Commission ... But as part of the celebration, the legislature passed a resolution to fly the flag on the dome of the State House in 1962. As one former legislator noted years later, “We did it to celebrate, not to divide the state.” But as another remarked, it was a different day. “White politicians only had to please white people, and the majority was plainly behind the system of segregation” ... In the late 1970s and early 1980s, some legislators floated a series of unsuccessful proposals to take down the flag ... By late 1993 politicians and business leaders were searching for an acceptable compromise on the flag question. The flag was bringing the state unwanted negative attention and publicity from around the nation ... A 1994 survey found that about half of South Carolina voters favored keeping the flag flying over the State House ... In 1997 the legislature passed a law giving themselves the sole power to move the flag ... On July 1, 2000, at a ceremony in front of the State House, two Citadel cadets lowered the flag from the dome ... Immediately afterwards, Civil War re-enactors raised a slightly different, square battle flag on a 30-foot pole that stood behind the Confederate Soldier Monument in front of the State House ...
http://www.usca.edu/aasc/Flag.htm

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
10. "Civil War re-enactors raised a slightly different ... flag"
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:56 PM
Jun 2015

so would these racist thugs riot if they finally took it down?

oh, my bad (I shouldn't be calling white people thugs; plus, white people don't riot.)



 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
7. Agreed.
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 05:07 PM
Jun 2015

And the Coates piece is terrific. He is an unusually talented writer and thinker who combines crystal clarity with watertight arguments.

calimary

(81,383 posts)
14. What a quote. I heard it referenced on TV today.
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 01:26 AM
Jun 2015

MAN -

"This moral truth—'that the negro is not equal to the white man'—is exactly what animated Dylann Roof. More than any individual actor, in recent history, Roof honored his flag in exactly the manner it always demanded—with human sacrifice."

No words.

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