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gollygee

(22,336 posts) Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:13 PM Jun 2015

I really thought that this incident was so obviously and clearly racist

that everyone would have to admit it, and no one would even try to deny it for fear of looking like an idiot.

A was naive.

Jeb Bush, FOX, I even thought they would have to admit it in this case.

And even here at DU there are people who think this wasn't about racism.

I have no optimism about our society's ability to eliminate racism when people so willfully deny racism in so obvious a racist crime. This is depressing.

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I really thought that this incident was so obviously and clearly racist (Original Post) gollygee Jun 2015 OP

I agree Plus it is even being looked at as a hate crime yet some even here on DU want Person 2713 Jun 2015 #1

They're desperately trying to hold the Nixon "southern strategy" together Warpy Jun 2015 #2

I think Sen Sanders is going to thrash their Southern Strategy all to hell and back Volaris Jun 2015 #12

yes this is depressing KT2000 Jun 2015 #3

I'm honestly so surprised to see some posts here on DU MerryBlooms Jun 2015 #4

and the shooter... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #5

+1, He even told the damn cops it was because they were black uponit7771 Jun 2015 #6

I'm sure Oreally will say this proves his war on Christmas kairos12 Jun 2015 #11

trying to hold on to that privilege heaven05 Jun 2015 #7

It's infuriating and ridiculous. n/t prayin4rain Jun 2015 #8

I know, right? Silly us. Solly Mack Jun 2015 #9

Unbelievable. nt brer cat Jun 2015 #10

I know. It is depressing. yardwork Jun 2015 #13

Yes, I've seen a lot of minimizing, Blue_In_AK Jun 2015 #14

clearly a hate crime and racist. hopemountain Jun 2015 #15

White police officers shooting unarmed black men, slamming little girls to the ground, betsuni Jun 2015 #16

Agreed 100%. Really sad nt riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #17

Is there some other motivation for specifically going into a black church to shoot up black folks? whatchamacallit Jun 2015 #18

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)

1. I agree Plus it is even being looked at as a hate crime yet some even here on DU want

Reply to gollygee (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:25 PM

Jun 2015

to post how it is not . The majority public are hoping for an excuse to deny

Warpy

(111,300 posts)

2. They're desperately trying to hold the Nixon "southern strategy" together

Reply to gollygee (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:27 PM

Jun 2015

by reassuring bigots they're still not only welcome in the party, they'll be coddled and catered to as long as they stop just short of killing other people. And even if they do kill, they'll be called anything but what they are, bigots.

Can't have anybody seeing clearly what that party is all about, can we?

Volaris

(10,273 posts)

12. I think Sen Sanders is going to thrash their Southern Strategy all to hell and back

Reply to Warpy (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:31 PM

Jun 2015

Because Poverty in the Richest nation in the history of Nations, knows no color.

Just you watch.
plant that flag, Sen Sanders. We're with you and we have your back.

KT2000

(20,585 posts)

3. yes this is depressing

Reply to gollygee (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:48 PM

Jun 2015

No one appears to want to take leadership in that state to even get rid of that flag. People are tip-toeing around so as not to offend racists.

MerryBlooms

(11,770 posts)

4. I'm honestly so surprised to see some posts here on DU

Reply to gollygee (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:56 PM

Jun 2015

denying this heinous act as racism... I feel kind of numbed/stunned.

I have no idea what to make of it.

You have a self ADMITTED RACIST murdering black people because he hates blacks, yet some here deny the murderer's own words... as I said, it's rather stunning.

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)

5. and the shooter...

Reply to gollygee (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:20 PM

Jun 2015

came out and said it was racially motivated. They just want to pimp their "war on christians" crap.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)

6. +1, He even told the damn cops it was because they were black

Reply to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:21 PM

Jun 2015

kairos12

(12,862 posts)

11. I'm sure Oreally will say this proves his war on Christmas

Reply to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:15 PM

Jun 2015

idiocy.

heaven05

(18,124 posts)

7. trying to hold on to that privilege

Reply to gollygee (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:54 PM

Jun 2015

by any means necessary. Denial of racism is one effort to hold on to that privilege, if they deny racism is a problem then it does not exist and they do not have to deal with it, only those POC and we don't matter to the bush's, foxes, nikkis and you're right even some on here deny, to hold on to that privileged life...... no doubt.

prayin4rain

(2,065 posts)

8. It's infuriating and ridiculous. n/t

Reply to gollygee (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:57 PM

Jun 2015

Solly Mack

(90,777 posts)

9. I know, right? Silly us.

Reply to gollygee (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:59 PM

Jun 2015

It's disheartening.

brer cat

(24,580 posts)

10. Unbelievable. nt

Reply to gollygee (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:11 PM

Jun 2015

yardwork

(61,676 posts)

13. I know. It is depressing.

Reply to gollygee (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:53 PM

Jun 2015

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)

14. Yes, I've seen a lot of minimizing,

Reply to gollygee (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:56 PM

Jun 2015

even among good liberal people I know. Particularly annoying to me personally - and apologies to anyone who holds this view - are the people who want to blame this act on pharmaceuticals. I'm just not buying it. This guy spent a lot of time cultivating his deep racism and he planned and carried out this crime in a precise and methodical way. Drugs had nothing to do with it.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)

15. clearly a hate crime and racist.

Reply to gollygee (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:58 PM

Jun 2015

the only way to not agree with the deniers and those who are trying to make it something else to make themselves less guilty of their own bigotry is to firmly state: clearly a hate crime and racist.

betsuni

(25,560 posts)

16. White police officers shooting unarmed black men, slamming little girls to the ground,

Reply to gollygee (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:25 PM

Jun 2015

they say it's not racist and we're supposed to believe them. White shooter says he's there to kill black people and why and does it: well, we can't believe that was really what it was about, I guess we'll never know why.

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)

17. Agreed 100%. Really sad nt

Reply to gollygee (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:27 PM

Jun 2015

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)

18. Is there some other motivation for specifically going into a black church to shoot up black folks?