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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThey do this every time. And we capitulate. We're doing it again.
What?
When the job-killers, oligarchs, climate-change deniers, capitalists, robber barons, Wall St. thugs et al want something RAMMED through no matter HOW damned awful it is for the rest of us, for our natural environment, for our economy, for our jobs and salaries, for our health or for our LIVES - they just keep RAMMING AND RAMMING AND RAMMING - until they wear us down (which doesn't take long 'cause our attention span is that of a gnat and complacency reigns supreme) and ALWAYS get what THEY want at our grave expense. EVERY. TIME.
Once again, we give up. Shrug our shoulders. And whine when it's all over and they won. Again.
WHAT THE HELL AM I TALKING ABOUT? Well...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026883340
We have LESS THAN 24 HOURS to SLAM these idiot so-called "Democrats" with tweets, emails, phone calls. Nancy Pelosi TOLD US in no uncertain terms that WE were the reason TAA and thus Fast Track failed in the house the first time. And STILL the shoulders shrug, the eyes droop and the excuses fly.
Seriously? No wonder we're losing this country to the oligarchs. WE REFUSE TO KEEP UP THE FIGHT! Meanwhile, the oligarchs are ramming and ramming and ramming and ramming 24 x 7 x 365 x infinity to get what they want. THEY'LL FIGHT. WE -- won't. Evidently.
I'll wait to see all the whining and heartbroken posts here after Fast Track and TPP passes. "Ohhh we don't have any say in our own government anymore" - Here's the thing: YOU. HAVE. TO. SAY. SOMETHING. BEFORE. THEY. WILL. HEAR. YOU. LOUD - 24 x 7 x 365 x infinity. RELENTLESSLY.
It's not a 2-day fight. PARTICIPATE in your Democracy. Every minute of every day. Or LOSE IT.
That's the bottom line. That we failed to do so for the past 60 years is how we got here. Status quo won't cut it.
R A I S E H E L L ! (ummm NOW.)
Scuba
(53,475 posts)G_j
(40,372 posts)that's one way they wear us down. It's Groundhog Day all over again.
Triana
(22,666 posts)They need to hear a primal scream. Slammed email inboxes, full voicemail boxes and twitter timelines full of #NOTPP tweets.
We have to fully participate. Because the oligarchs and robber barons are. Every minute of every day. They don't let up. We can't let up.
G_j
(40,372 posts)Though it's difficult to even keep up with when they are voting and what exactly they are voting on. I haven't given up, but agree that this is exactly how they get their corporate bidding done.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)the people will win, we no longer matter. UNTIL WE ORGANIZE by the millions and throw them all out of office and replace them with REAL Reps of the people.
IF this passes, that is hopefully going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back as the Unions have promised.
Other than that, at least we can annoy them and let them know they are being watched, in case some of them actually care.
marmar
(77,091 posts)Both of which pledge allegiance to their corporate benefactors.
American "democracy" is in sad shape.
Triana
(22,666 posts)I don't say it's 100% the problem but - it played a large part in how we got here. 1940s - 1980s people became complacent. The robber barons were scheming the whole time. They've unleashed their vile plan upon us largely unawares - until the past 10-15 years or so. Now they have their hooks in deep and corruption in what is supposed to be "our" government is massive. And people thus become even more complacent and give up. But the only way we'll ever fix this is to fight back. Massively. MASSIVELY.and LONG TERM. It's not going to happen any other way. It's going to take what Sanders calls a REVOLUTION to defeat this beast. It's grown out of control - partially because we LET it.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)Michigan-Arizona
(762 posts)June 22, 2015
Dear Mrs.
Thank you for contacting me regarding the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) and Trade Promotion Authority (TPA). I appreciate hearing your concerns on these important issues.
As you may know, the TPP is a proposed free trade agreement currently under negotiation between the United States and eleven Pacific nations including Australia, Canada, Japan, Mexico, and New Zealand. The Obama Administration had said that it wanted to conclude these negotiations by the end of 2013, but no agreement has been reached thus far, and negotiations remain ongoing.
I strongly support reducing barriers to trade, which I see as an opportunity for the American workforce. The global economy is here to stay, and we limit our potential by trying to wall ourselves off to foreign competition. In fact, competition makes us stronger; we can compete and win, as we always have, or we can be left behind. Lowering trade barriers play an essential role in creating more and better jobs, and higher wages. Free trade also helps to make goods more affordable for low and middle income consumers. For all of these reasons, I am a strong supporter of the TPP and am eager to see it concluded and ratified by the Congress.
The TPP would also be more than just a trade agreement. It is a strategic agreement between the United States and many countries in the Asia-Pacific region that are integral to the continuing security and prosperity of the United States. Concluding a high-quality TPP would send a strong signal that the United States remains a strong, committed player in Asia at a time when some of our partners have doubts, which are being exploited by other countries that are trying to challenge America's leadership in the region. I support the TPP for this reason as well.
I am aware that some people are concerned about President Obama's request for TPA, also known as fast-track authority, as a way to facilitate passage of the TPP. If a trade agreement is fast-tracked, Congress would have a certain period of time to consider the treaty and would not be allowed to add amendments before voting on it. However, by granting TPA to the President, the Congress can exercise influence on the President, set parameters for a trade negotiation, and establish objectives that must be met in a final agreement.
In order to address some of the issues surrounding TPA, the Bipartisan Congressional Trade Priorities and Accountability Act of 2015 (TPA-2015) S.995 was introduced by Senator Orrin Hatch, Senator Ron Wyden, and Representative Paul Ryan. This bipartisan, bicameral TPA legislation establishes specific guidelines for international trade negotiations to help the United States secure strong and beneficial trade agreements. It outlines congressional negotiating objectives that any administration must follow when entering into and conducting trade discussions with foreign countries. It also increases transparency by requiring that Congress have access to classified texts of all trade negotiations and provides full public access to the trade agreements before they are signed. Finally, the TPA-2015 creates a new system to suspend TPA procedures and hold the administration accountable if it fails to meet negotiating standards.
I have supported TPA in the past as a critical authority that enables the President to negotiate and conclude bilateral and multilateral agreements that reduce trade barriers, strengthen American workers, and make our economy more competitive and prosperous. Time after time, trade agreements have spurred unparalleled economic growth and provided long-term financial benefits to millions of Americans. This is why I plan to continue my support for TPA and other trade measures.
Again, thank you for contacting me regarding this issue. Please do not hesitate to do so in the future regarding this or any other matter of concern.
Sincerely,
John McCain
United States Senator
JM/mc
Triana
(22,666 posts)Horse shit. We know that. And should be telling every critter up there that it's horse shit and we KNOW it. No sense mincing words.
ZERO trade agreements the US has entered into has EVER produced "more and better jobs, and higher wages"
E V E R.
Got a phone or email? Call or email his office, reference the letter and read verbatim the first three sentences above.
Seriously.
Triana
(22,666 posts)In less than 5 minutes.
Michael Bennet (D-CO)
202-224-5852
@senbennetco
Tom Carper (D-DE)
202-224-2441
@senatorcarper
Chris Coons (D-DE)
202-224-5042
@chriscoons
Ben Cardin (D-MD)
202-224-4524
@senatorcardin
Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND)
202-224-2043
@senatorheitkamp
Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)
202-224-2841
@senatorshaheen
Ron Wyden (D-OR)
202-224-5244
@ronwyden
Mark Warner (D-VA)
202-224-2023
@markwarner
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
Example tweets:
False choice betw "economic isolationism" and decent paying jobs for Americans. We can do better than #TPP STOP FAST TRACK. @MarkWarner
ZERO trade agreements the US has entered into has EVER produced "more and better jobs, and higher wages" E V E R. @SenatorShaheen #NoTPP
Duppers
(28,127 posts)Just talked with a Mark Warner staffer.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Duppers
(28,127 posts)It took so little time and effort.
Folks, Please make your CALLS NOW.
Triana
(22,666 posts)Whenever it is, KEEP UP THE PRESSURE until this thing is DEAD.
Duppers
(28,127 posts)Trying to keep this thread at the top.
ACTION NEEDED NOW. Right now.
Duppers
(28,127 posts)Vote not yet begun.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Even to the detriment of their own. They will lead them by the hand into false treaties, into slavery, into gas chambers, into assured misery as long as it profits them.
There are some who don't abdicate responsibility to their neighbors. There are some who take the defense of democracy, of the weak & voiceless, of the needs of the many above the needs of a few, seriously.
There are others that do all they can to advance the interests of multinational corporations.
The more one donates to voice of greed, the less ones own voice could heard above it and the less seriously it can be taken when it is.
Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)*** Washington State residents: The time is NOW! ***
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026885494
Maybe I didn't use enough asterisks.