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Panich52

(5,829 posts)
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 11:12 AM Jun 2015

Supreme Court Rules Police DO NOT Need A Warrant To Search Your Home

Countercurrent

Much to the surprise of the general public, the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled in favor of expanded the ability of law enforcement to search without warrants.

Justice Samuel Alito wrote for the majority of the court which ruled 6 to 3 that “when occupants of a residents disagree on whether they will admit police without a warrant, the objecting occupant must be physically present,” the Washington Post reported. “That doesn’t change if police have removed the objector,” the court added.

“An occupant who is absent due to a lawful detention or arrest stands in the same shoes as an occupant who is absent for any other reason,” Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. wrote.

“Alito said there was no need for officers to obtain a warrant,” the Post explained. “When they arrived the first time, having followed Fernandez from the scene of a robbery, Rojas answered the door crying, with a bump on her nose and blood on her hands and shirt.”

Alito noted that “denying someone in Rojas’ position the right to allow the police to enter her home would also show disrespect for her independence. Having beaten Rojas, petitioner would bar her from controlling access to her own home until such time as he chose to relent.”

The case in question stemmed from a 2009 arrest and search related to a robbery in Los Angeles.

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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
1. Wait. This says if the husband is arrested the wife can consent to a search
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 11:14 AM
Jun 2015

even if the husband doesn't want one. Do you disagree with that?

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
2. I do not think that ruling means what you say it does.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 11:23 AM
Jun 2015

In fact, I'm sure of it. The ruling protects a resident of the place's right to allow a search without a warrant, even if another resident who has been arrested refuses such a warrantless search. It's an equality thing. It's not permission to search places without a warrant on a general basis.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
6. But it is, as the opening line says, an expansion of the rights to search without a warrant
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 11:42 AM
Jun 2015

and an erosion of fourth amendment protections.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
7. Not really. It simply recognizes the rights of people
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 11:45 AM
Jun 2015

who live in a residence as equal. A resident can allow police to search if another resident has been arrested, under this ruling. Why should a resident be subservient to the wishes of another resident in a situation where the police have arrested the other resident?

This will affect many situations, including domestic violence situations. It does not affect the basic rights under the 4th Amendment. Instead, it recognizes the equality of residents in a place.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
9. It doesn't actually recognize their rights as equal
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 11:56 AM
Jun 2015

because if the objector is still present, then the objection prevails.

Saying that an objection to searching one's residence should matter even in that person's absence does not make the other resident subservient. That claim is ridiculous, since the other resident could cooperate in a myriad of ways if they want to. Not having one's home searched is not a violation of one's rights.

As to whether this affects the fourth amendment, I agree with the court's wisest voice, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who wrote the dissent.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
5. It's the title of the linked article. eom
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 11:36 AM
Jun 2015

Having read the article, I also know that Ginsburg, Sotomayor, and Kagan were the dissenters.

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