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should "dixie" be next. (Original Post) Lurker Deluxe Jun 2015 OP
just change the spelling to dicksy n/t virtualobserver Jun 2015 #1
The Dixie Chicks may have something to say about that yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #57
good point...I withdraw my suggestion. n/t virtualobserver Jun 2015 #59
It certainly should be. pogglethrope Jun 2015 #2
From someone who would burn any Dixie swastika he sees... NuclearDem Jun 2015 #9
Jeez, you ever read the Constitution? The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2015 #10
No but he only wants to ban the bad speech GummyBearz Jun 2015 #92
Please tell me this is a poor attempt at snark. nt sufrommich Jun 2015 #16
of coarse it is Lurker Deluxe Jun 2015 #19
In DU Totalitarian OP's, it's OK to point out that it's spelled "Of course" and not "Of coarse" Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #25
Ack! Lurker Deluxe Jun 2015 #37
I thought the spelling was intentional. pogglethrope Jun 2015 #76
Would you support the bulldozing and destruction of confederate Graves? n/t oneshooter Jun 2015 #40
The skeletons need to be staked first. Otherwise, they come back. AngryAmish Jun 2015 #72
So you would support the destruction of confederate cemetaries. oneshooter Jun 2015 #86
YOU DIDN'T MOVE THE BODIES AngryAmish Jun 2015 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author AngryAmish Jun 2015 #89
This message was self-deleted by its author oneshooter Jun 2015 #70
"Dixie" is demonstrably geographic in nature, referring to "south of the Mason-Dixon Line." Maedhros Jun 2015 #3
it is used to define the states that seceded Lurker Deluxe Jun 2015 #7
I know. I guess I'm not big on banning words or music or books. Maedhros Jun 2015 #14
Now, and usually. Igel Jun 2015 #30
Here's what the Online Etymology Dictionary says about "Dixie": kentauros Jun 2015 #94
But Maryland and Missouri are two states below the mason-dixon line npk Jun 2015 #65
I actualy don't think the term has any thing to do with the mason dixon line Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #82
Aha. Hadn't heard that before. [n/t] Maedhros Jun 2015 #90
Getting rid of a flag is easy. How would you get rid of "dixie"? NightWatcher Jun 2015 #4
First we would have to get rid of trolling snooper2 Jun 2015 #108
No. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2015 #5
Yes! RobinA Jun 2015 #6
my sister is named Dixie not very fair to her is it? ALBliberal Jun 2015 #8
How would one go about banning a term? Glassunion Jun 2015 #11
lol . . . how about that accent - ban it! DrDan Jun 2015 #12
We could set up special camps, to re-educate those who continue to use these things.[n/t] Maedhros Jun 2015 #18
Everyone agrees that it would be in the service of the greater good (nt) Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #20
exactly - who ever thought 1A was a good idea DrDan Jun 2015 #28
And sweet tea... kiva Jun 2015 #23
LOL Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #24
on the list - BAN IT DrDan Jun 2015 #26
grits? Facility Inspector Jun 2015 #39
gone DrDan Jun 2015 #46
WHAT? nt Are_grits_groceries Jun 2015 #99
gone - everyone knows they are more than simply groceries DrDan Jun 2015 #100
noooooooooooooo!!!!!! nt Ilsa Jun 2015 #60
No one needs to fret. You can still get it up North... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #95
S**t, I love sweet tea.. Nt Doctor Who Jun 2015 #96
Pork rinds - ban them! csziggy Jun 2015 #38
never cared for them anyway - gone DrDan Jun 2015 #50
Ah, hell no! DawgHouse Jun 2015 #43
put gravy on it??? gone DrDan Jun 2015 #44
Yes indeed, DrDan! DawgHouse Jun 2015 #45
I was just about to post that they'd have to pry that chicken fried steak trackfan Jun 2015 #93
You have to ban possum. upaloopa Jun 2015 #48
having lived abroad for 10 years - a couple in Africa and 4 in the ME - gotta agree with that local DrDan Jun 2015 #53
They'll Get My RobinA Jun 2015 #103
Should we throw away the 1st amendment too? nt sufrommich Jun 2015 #13
A state government, recognizing the context of a thing and refusing to celebrate it is not a ban. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #15
BAN IT!!! Glassunion Jun 2015 #17
Perhaps posters that use it could be banned... n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2015 #21
Please tell me you're being sarcastic. nt B2G Jun 2015 #22
Where should we stop? lpbk2713 Jun 2015 #27
Can someone tell me where is the confederate flag being banned? Only governmental offices that are still_one Jun 2015 #34
It's all a bit preemptive. lpbk2713 Jun 2015 #35
Yup still_one Jun 2015 #87
I agree somewhat sub.theory Jun 2015 #81
I'd rather ban Sean Hannity and his ilk from broadcasting! RKP5637 Jun 2015 #29
One reason I became an atheist is people like him, I watched that filthy fucking disgusting randys1 Jun 2015 #52
Exactly!!! Well said!!! He's got a big mouth but nothing behind it! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2015 #74
A nonsense comparison. In addition, the confederated flag is not being banned, the argument is to still_one Jun 2015 #31
did someone ban the flag ? JI7 Jun 2015 #32
No mindem Jun 2015 #33
The song Dixie was one of Abraham Lincoln's favorites. Staph Jun 2015 #36
All cued up seveneyes Jun 2015 #41
i get worried when I read things like this OP upaloopa Jun 2015 #42
Was a response to posts like Lurker Deluxe Jun 2015 #49
well we can't rewrite the past we can learn from it. upaloopa Jun 2015 #51
If you take as serious every knee-jerk, emotional response you come across on a message board, you'r LanternWaste Jun 2015 #55
well Lurker Deluxe Jun 2015 #56
How? Iggo Jun 2015 #47
What about Oh de doo dah day?? Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2015 #54
That would not be well received in Wyalusing, PA. bluedigger Jun 2015 #107
Banned??! I think you're confused about what the word "ban" means. prayin4rain Jun 2015 #58
There is no "movement" to "ban" anything alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #61
Lets stop this before somebody proposes banning the Dukes of Hazard tularetom Jun 2015 #62
geek tragedy conflated the two perfectly KamaAina Jun 2015 #63
Then, let's ban Sweet Home Alabama... kentuck Jun 2015 #64
skinard Lurker Deluxe Jun 2015 #67
Can we ban the SEC? GusBob Jun 2015 #66
Do they still make Dixie Beer? Throd Jun 2015 #68
U.S. Rt 25 is known as Dixie Highway through western Ohio. madinmaryland Jun 2015 #69
Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #71
Oh fuck yeah, let's raid the "south". like a fruit fly likes a banana ... seveneyes Jun 2015 #73
Better ban the Dukes of Hazzard madville Jun 2015 #75
This thread is awesome. bravenak Jun 2015 #77
damn entertaining Lurker Deluxe Jun 2015 #83
No, and I do not know why I feel that way. It is just a gut response. Nobel_Twaddle_III Jun 2015 #78
no. tymorial Jun 2015 #79
I'm sorry, who is talking about banning *anything*? X_Digger Jun 2015 #80
Certainly not. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #84
I've honestly never heard it before Prism Jun 2015 #85
How the fuck will I rinse my mouth after brushing, without those cute little paper cups? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #91
this is a much better version of dixie. rdking647 Jun 2015 #97
One last time before You Tube deletes it from the Internet. kentuck Jun 2015 #98
We should also rename all the Southern States. ileus Jun 2015 #101
The difference between a flag and a geographical term... liberal N proud Jun 2015 #102
The DIXIE Chicks aren't racists. Duppers Jun 2015 #104
Absolutely not BillZBubb Jun 2015 #105
Yeah, let's just nuke Savannah while we're at it B2G Jun 2015 #106
why not.. quickesst Jun 2015 #109
Will Dixie Carter have to have her gravestone changed? hughee99 Jun 2015 #110
 

pogglethrope

(60 posts)
2. It certainly should be.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:25 PM
Jun 2015

And by that, I mean make it illegal to play "Dixie" publicly -- or to sell recordings of "Dixie" in any medium. Probably would be asking to much to ask for the destruction of all recordings previously made, but it wouldn't bother me if that were done. Not in the least.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
9. From someone who would burn any Dixie swastika he sees...
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:29 PM
Jun 2015

...that's a terrible idea. Erasing history does nobody any good.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,866 posts)
10. Jeez, you ever read the Constitution?
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:30 PM
Jun 2015

Notably, the First Amendment? You ban somebody's speech today; tomorrow someone else will ban yours.

Lurker Deluxe

(1,039 posts)
19. of coarse it is
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:37 PM
Jun 2015

It's a response to posters calling for the removal, destruction, and burning of anything that relates to the Confederate side of the civil war.

Pooka Fey

(3,496 posts)
25. In DU Totalitarian OP's, it's OK to point out that it's spelled "Of course" and not "Of coarse"
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:54 PM
Jun 2015

nor is it "Of Corse"

No hard feelings, eh?

Lurker Deluxe

(1,039 posts)
37. Ack!
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:17 PM
Jun 2015

I punished myself for such an horrendous grammer mistake .. with another cold beer.

That will taught me.

 

pogglethrope

(60 posts)
76. I thought the spelling was intentional.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 08:04 PM
Jun 2015

I call my slip-ups ytpos, making them features -- which is what we used to do sometimes with bugs that made it into released software.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
86. So you would support the destruction of confederate cemetaries.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 09:22 PM
Jun 2015

How truly progressive you are.
You must be so proud.

Response to AngryAmish (Reply #88)

Response to pogglethrope (Reply #2)

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
3. "Dixie" is demonstrably geographic in nature, referring to "south of the Mason-Dixon Line."
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:25 PM
Jun 2015

It would be like banning the term "Midwest."

Lurker Deluxe

(1,039 posts)
7. it is used to define the states that seceded
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:29 PM
Jun 2015

Dixie" is usually defined as the elevenSouthern states that seceded in late 1860 and early 1861 to form the new confederation 

From wiki.

Igel

(35,359 posts)
30. Now, and usually.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:01 PM
Jun 2015

What it originally meant is a bit of a mystery.

I mean, in the first place the song has all the straightforwardness as "Yankee Doodle." Both were written to be sarcastic, "Yankee Doodle" to take an insult and say that the insult is ignored, "Dixie" to apparently mock the wonders and comforts of slavery.

Perhaps &quot Mason-)Dixon" was the origin, perhaps something else. "Arguably" also means "arguably not".

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
94. Here's what the Online Etymology Dictionary says about "Dixie":
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 12:32 AM
Jun 2015
Dixie (n.)
1859, first attested in the song of that name, which was popularized, if not written, by Ohio-born U.S. minstrel musician and songwriter Dan Emmett (1815-1904); perhaps a reference to the Mason-Dixon Line, but there are other well-publicized theories dating back to the Civil War. Popularized nationwide in minstrel shows. Dixieland style of jazz developed in New Orleans c. 1910, so called from 1919.

I'd hate to see it and anything related to that word banned, because I like Dixieland jazz


npk

(3,660 posts)
65. But Maryland and Missouri are two states below the mason-dixon line
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 06:48 PM
Jun 2015

To me Dixie just always stood for the south. Not a confederate term just a geographical term.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
82. I actualy don't think the term has any thing to do with the mason dixon line
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 08:53 PM
Jun 2015

In the 1860's french banks in New Orleans had the word 'Dix' on the 10.00 bill. (Dix is french for ten). They were called Dixies, and Louisiana was reffered to as Dixieland. The term spread to cover all the states in the confederate, and the boarders of what is considered dixie have shifted a bit in modern times as well.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
4. Getting rid of a flag is easy. How would you get rid of "dixie"?
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:27 PM
Jun 2015

Outlaw Dixie cups and anything else with the word?

No one is waving around the term "dixie".

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,866 posts)
5. No.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:28 PM
Jun 2015

"Banning" is the act of a totalitarian state. The Confederate flag hasn't been "banned," either; it is being taken down from a state building voluntarily, although under a lot of public pressure. Private individuals are still free to display the damn thing, just as the First Amendment allows. "Dixie" is simply a word for the original states of the Confederacy. Arguably the song "I Wish I Was In Dixie Land" has connotations similar to those of the flag, but people are still free to sing it - though one would hope not at any government-sponsored events. Banning something, apart from the totalitarian implications, usually means it eventually pops up in even nastier forms.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
12. lol . . . how about that accent - ban it!
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:32 PM
Jun 2015

cornbread, grits, biscuits, "the south" . . .

Lets make a list, prioritize it, and get rid of it all

then there's that pesky 1A - begone!

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
28. exactly - who ever thought 1A was a good idea
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:58 PM
Jun 2015

would be to everyone's greater good to do away with it!

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
26. on the list - BAN IT
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:55 PM
Jun 2015

can you just imagine all the evil that was plotted over a glass of sweet tea . . .

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
100. gone - everyone knows they are more than simply groceries
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:01 AM
Jun 2015

Actually, I am a big lover of grits. We were at the NOLA Jazz Festival a few years back and went to a cooking demo from a chef from Arkansas that demoed rice grits. Been making them ever since. Grind them myself.

I know - sacrilege

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
38. Pork rinds - ban them!
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:20 PM
Jun 2015

But don't ban my hog jowls and hoppin' john - gotta have them on New Year's Day for luck and prosperity.

trackfan

(3,650 posts)
93. I was just about to post that they'd have to pry that chicken fried steak
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 12:03 AM
Jun 2015

out of my cold dead hands!

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
48. You have to ban possum.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:44 PM
Jun 2015

When I was a kid we went to North Carolina to stay at a cabin on Fontana Lake. We stopped at a restaurant for breakfast and I was served grits and hush puppies. I had never seen them before. And the waitress kept saying Y'all. I thought we had ended up in back wards ville. Being from the North this all looked and sounded ridiculous. Then as we went up tho the counter to pay there were novelty license plates for sell. One said "eat mo possum", that was it. I could no longer hold back and started laughing my ass off reading the saying to my dad. A local looked at me and said "if you haven't tried it don't knock it."

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
53. having lived abroad for 10 years - a couple in Africa and 4 in the ME - gotta agree with that local
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:52 PM
Jun 2015

my children still kid me about the expression I had when traveling in China, about to dig into a bowl of soup, the chicken feet popped up.

Food preferences can certainly have a regional bias.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
103. They'll Get My
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:55 AM
Jun 2015

cornbread and biscuits when they pry them out of my cold dead hands, and I'm not even from the south.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
15. A state government, recognizing the context of a thing and refusing to celebrate it is not a ban.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:33 PM
Jun 2015

A state government, recognizing the context of a thing and refusing to celebrate it (which is much different than recognizing it) is not a ban.

And, as the confederate flag is not banned either, one may yet purchase one, display it on one's porch and whistle Dixie all the live long day...

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
27. Where should we stop?
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:56 PM
Jun 2015



At what point does this become ridiculous?

Should a man named Richard Carter be taken off to Gitmo?


... Dick C ...

still_one

(92,418 posts)
34. Can someone tell me where is the confederate flag being banned? Only governmental offices that are
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:05 PM
Jun 2015

supposed to serve all the people is where they are talking about removing it

The argument and premise are false

sub.theory

(652 posts)
81. I agree somewhat
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 08:50 PM
Jun 2015

Confederate flags and other emblems of the Confederacy have absolutely no place in American government. Period.

I'm not sure how comfortable I feel about banning private citizens from this, though. I think we may be starting a slippery slope here. I realize plenty of people find the confederate flag offensive. I do too. But isn't that the point of free speech?

randys1

(16,286 posts)
52. One reason I became an atheist is people like him, I watched that filthy fucking disgusting
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:49 PM
Jun 2015

chickenshit chickenhawk go on night after night in 2003 or whenever it was DEMANDING a war with Iraq, simultaneously INSISTING my step-son fight in it but no way in hell he, Sean Hannity, is willing to fight in it.

I was on the fence until all that happened, then it was clear to me there is no fucking way he is a millionaire and there is a god.

still_one

(92,418 posts)
31. A nonsense comparison. In addition, the confederated flag is not being banned, the argument is to
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:02 PM
Jun 2015

remove it from governmental offices which are supposed to serve all the public

Staph

(6,253 posts)
36. The song Dixie was one of Abraham Lincoln's favorites.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:17 PM
Jun 2015

He had it played at political rallies and at the announcement of the surrender at Appomattox Courthouse. If Lincoln liked the song, during the Civil War, then I think it's good enough for me.


upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
42. i get worried when I read things like this OP
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:33 PM
Jun 2015

it is a bit like fascism I think. It is a slippery slope to another period of dark ages.

Lurker Deluxe

(1,039 posts)
49. Was a response to posts like
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:44 PM
Jun 2015

"Destroy every Confederate flag that isn't in a museum of some sort. In addition, the public display of a Confederate flag anywhere in the United States should be made illegal."

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
55. If you take as serious every knee-jerk, emotional response you come across on a message board, you'r
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:57 PM
Jun 2015

If you take as serious every knee-jerk, emotional response you come across on a message board, you're going to be responding to a lot of benign chaff.

Sometimes, not very often but sometimes, we simply vent against those things which frustrate us in much the same way I, as an unapologetic opponent of the death penalty, can often be heard telling a friend or two, "eat scrotum and die." Honestly, I wouldn't want them to either ingest body parts nor pass away, and should they take it seriously, I'd laugh... much as I'm to begin giggling know.

Lurker Deluxe

(1,039 posts)
56. well
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 06:02 PM
Jun 2015

I happen to be the only one at the local watering hole this afternoon and I was just having some fun.

I really don't take a whole lot on a message board seriously, but they haven't told me if they are going to take Brady's balls.

So ...

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
61. There is no "movement" to "ban" anything
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 06:44 PM
Jun 2015

There's a reasonable claim that states (which represent African Americans) should not fly a symbol of racism, slavery, and segregation on public grounds. That there might also be businesses that realize how horrible it is to sell such racist shit is a secondary question. None of this is a "movement to ban." Assholes are perfectly free to fly, make, copulate with, and generally slather their racist saliva all over traitor flags if they so choose. The state shouldn't endorse it, though. Because it is racist and disgusting.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
69. U.S. Rt 25 is known as Dixie Highway through western Ohio.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 06:59 PM
Jun 2015

I actually work just a block or so off of south Dixie highway in southwestern Ohio.

Response to Lurker Deluxe (Original post)

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
80. I'm sorry, who is talking about banning *anything*?
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 08:26 PM
Jun 2015

Laughing at, pointing fingers at, demanding legislators take another position.

None of which bans shit.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
84. Certainly not.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 09:02 PM
Jun 2015

The Confederate battle flag symbolizes racism and slavery in the minds of most people who see it (even a big damn percentage of those who make excuses for it). The term "Dixie" does not have nearly that near-universal negative connotation. For the majority, it's an innocuous regional designator.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
85. I've honestly never heard it before
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 09:05 PM
Jun 2015

I've read about it in books, Lincoln biographies, etc. I know of its importance to the South, especially during the Civil War. But I never listened to it before I read this post.

I don't recognize it in the slightest.

Do most Americans and I just somehow dropped through a hole in collective culture?

liberal N proud

(60,346 posts)
102. The difference between a flag and a geographical term...
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:17 AM
Jun 2015

The difference is that the flag is used to fuel a sentiment of hate and oppression. Groups use the confederate flag to fuel the idea that the south will rise again and whites will reign supreme again. The blood spilled on the confederate flag is not blood of valor but that of treason and many still use it in defiance of the federal government and the United States.

Dixie does not have that same taint, it simply defines the region of southern states.

The flag should be banished from existence outside of a museum, a word should never be banished. Some words should never be used again but Dixie isn't one of them.

Duppers

(28,127 posts)
104. The DIXIE Chicks aren't racists.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 09:10 AM
Jun 2015

The term designates locale, not a longing to return to a white supremacy era.


 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
106. Yeah, let's just nuke Savannah while we're at it
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 09:55 AM
Jun 2015

That place is a virtual cesspool of American history.

quickesst

(6,283 posts)
109. why not..
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 12:33 PM
Jun 2015

then y'all can start on the next logical step... Genocide! Hey, if people want to remove anything that reminds them of the South, and its role in the civil war, this is the only logical step, because try as we might, it seems we just can't seem to convince many people that we are not all Dylan Roof. Sure, a few speak up and agree that the broad blanket is tossed around too freely, but sure as hell, as soon as the dust settles, there's always someone ready to bring out a brand new one. We're not going to beg you for acceptance, nor are we going to capitulate to the self-righteous. We are however, going to do everything we can to turn the South blue with or without your approval. I am NOT targeting the OP simply because I would wear my fingers out copying and pasting to everyone who deserves this reply, and I really don't give a flying fuck what you think about me personally. Have a nice day.

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