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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 07:29 PM Jun 2015

Teenage Girl Pulled From School After Deputy Head Says Her Clothes Remind Him Of Bondage

Not. The. Onion.

http://thebestof.media/teenage-girl-pulled-from-school-after-vice-principal-says-her-clothes-remind-him-of-bondage/

15-year-old Erin Anais-Hart is going through the Goth stage in her life and got singled out at school for her outfit, not by students, but by a senior staff member. Most days, kids wear uniforms, but for a charity event, kids were encouraged to wear their own clothes.

Erin got booted out of class at King Charles I in Worcestershire, England until she called her mom to bring some pants over to the school so she’d be “covered up.”

Mom Kaye didn’t want to see Erin body-shamed, so she told her to just come home from school for the day....

When Kaye pressed him on why, he finally said “She looks like she does bondage.” Shocked, she pulled Erin out of King Charles I, and Erin’s at home as they look for a new school without pervy administrators.




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Teenage Girl Pulled From School After Deputy Head Says Her Clothes Remind Him Of Bondage (Original Post) KamaAina Jun 2015 OP
So when this guy sees a teen girl wearing goth/punk clothes... Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #1
My first thought. Methinks his browser history should be perused. nt onehandle Jun 2015 #2
Indeed mythology Jun 2015 #3
He was probably thinking he'd like a spanking from the poor girl. hifiguy Jun 2015 #56
Perv much? MineralMan Jun 2015 #4
The School Is Named For This Guy... jberryhill Jun 2015 #5
Fifty Shades of Gray Metal Dr. Strange Jun 2015 #6
Off with his head! Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #28
She looks perfectly fine LostOne4Ever Jun 2015 #7
Thats a badass jacket she's got. nt Snotcicles Jun 2015 #8
Wtf? romanic Jun 2015 #9
Ironically arrested by someone carrying handcuffs on prominent display ... eppur_se_muova Jun 2015 #10
Deputy head of a British school =/= US LEO. It just means the guy who is second in tblue37 Jun 2015 #21
You had to spoil a good joke with a dose of reality. eppur_se_muova Jun 2015 #25
Who was arrested? Snobblevitch Jun 2015 #49
That outfit is totally tame. And awesome. cyberswede Jun 2015 #11
Vice principal gets a boner for a high school girl. High school girl gets punished. Iggo Jun 2015 #12
England. And she would have been sent home here too. nt B2G Jun 2015 #14
Exactly why? Iggo Jun 2015 #18
Because schools have dress codes B2G Jun 2015 #22
Much like you and the staff member, I too enjoy pretending I know what is or is not appropriate... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #24
There is nothing inappropriate about this outfit.... CherokeeDem Jun 2015 #33
You don't get to make the rules for private schools B2G Jun 2015 #34
No, but people can say whatever they like about them kcr Jun 2015 #41
I'm well aware of who makes the rules.... CherokeeDem Jun 2015 #44
Oh good lord. My friends and I dressed Codeine Jun 2015 #38
This..... CherokeeDem Jun 2015 #47
Did you miss the part where their own clothes were ok'd 1 day over the usual uniforms Panich52 Jun 2015 #55
That school requires uniforms jberryhill Jun 2015 #59
I posted the link to their uniform page B2G Jun 2015 #60
England. His quote is worse than the headline: "“She looks like she does bondage." GreatGazoo Jun 2015 #16
On what planet is that appropriate school attire?? nt B2G Jun 2015 #13
+1,000 malaise Jun 2015 #17
It was "wear what you want day". The skrt is below the fingertips and FourScore Jun 2015 #43
They ordinarily wear uniforms. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #19
It was their "wear what you want" day. MineralMan Jun 2015 #23
From the waist up, nothing B2G Jun 2015 #26
Silliness. MineralMan Jun 2015 #30
Well if they don't like the dress code, B2G Jun 2015 #31
I see. Well, apparently that girl's mother is doing just that. MineralMan Jun 2015 #35
Garters are just garters. Codeine Jun 2015 #39
her shorts come down to her fingertips fizzgig Jun 2015 #50
Hell, I wore shorts much shorter than that as a kid, and a male, ahh, the 1980s... Humanist_Activist Jun 2015 #62
Those shorts aren't that short, especially this time of year... Humanist_Activist Jun 2015 #61
The issue isn't whether it's appropriate attire kcr Jun 2015 #42
"Bondage" aside, this outfit is for school? WinkyDink Jun 2015 #15
They normally wear uniforms jberryhill Jun 2015 #58
I like school uniforms..just makes life simpler, cheaper, and in some cases safer. kelliekat44 Jun 2015 #20
This school has proper uniforms. Iggo Jun 2015 #36
The spiked collar and leather leggings edhopper Jun 2015 #27
Spiked collars and leather leggings are also goth.... CherokeeDem Jun 2015 #45
They are ALSO goth edhopper Jun 2015 #48
Let me clarify... CherokeeDem Jun 2015 #52
I agree with that edhopper Jun 2015 #54
I remember in my high school, the goth/punk teens wore much raunchier stuff than her... Humanist_Activist Jun 2015 #63
A lot of kids look like this and I don't think of bondage when I see kids nor RKP5637 Jun 2015 #29
While opinions clearly vary about the appropriateness SheilaT Jun 2015 #32
If this makes you think of bondage, you have a problem. DetlefK Jun 2015 #37
Creep rock Jun 2015 #40
From the land that inspired this vision of educators.... aikoaiko Jun 2015 #46
Personally, I think we should be encouraging our young people to express their individuality. Maedhros Jun 2015 #51
She looks like a teenage girl. Vinca Jun 2015 #53
American dopeyness is spreading across the pond hifiguy Jun 2015 #57
 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
1. So when this guy sees a teen girl wearing goth/punk clothes...
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 08:58 PM
Jun 2015

...he thinks of bondage?

Um..maybe being vice-principal at a school in not the job this creep should have.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
56. He was probably thinking he'd like a spanking from the poor girl.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 02:43 PM
Jun 2015

Given all the stories one hears about English "public" schools...

LostOne4Ever

(9,290 posts)
7. She looks perfectly fine
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 11:52 PM
Jun 2015

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]

I am sick of these assholes shaming girls for their clothes![/font]

eppur_se_muova

(36,295 posts)
10. Ironically arrested by someone carrying handcuffs on prominent display ...
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:02 AM
Jun 2015


I think one could be excused for thinking all police in univorm remind them of bondage.

tblue37

(65,489 posts)
21. Deputy head of a British school =/= US LEO. It just means the guy who is second in
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:39 AM
Jun 2015

command to the school's "head." IOW, "deputy head". = something like assistant principal.

eppur_se_muova

(36,295 posts)
25. You had to spoil a good joke with a dose of reality.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:46 AM
Jun 2015

(I wasn't even sure if British police carry handcuffs, for that matter.)

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
11. That outfit is totally tame. And awesome.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:05 AM
Jun 2015

Who would think of bondage seeing that on a child? Only a creep.

Iggo

(47,568 posts)
12. Vice principal gets a boner for a high school girl. High school girl gets punished.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:24 AM
Jun 2015

Which backward country did this take place in?

Oh...

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
22. Because schools have dress codes
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:40 AM
Jun 2015

and they have them for a reason.

That is not school appropriate. Sorry, it's just not.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
24. Much like you and the staff member, I too enjoy pretending I know what is or is not appropriate...
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:42 AM
Jun 2015

Much like you and the staff member, I too enjoy pretending I know what is or is not appropriate... as long as we all realize it's merely pretense on our parts, and we don't really have the relevant knowledge.

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
33. There is nothing inappropriate about this outfit....
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:04 AM
Jun 2015

It is not too short, nor does it reveal those "naughty things" girls should never reveal. like shoulders, arms, or thighs. The kids were encouraged to wear their own clothes to a school which normally requires uniforms.

The crime here is in the mind of the school official... who should be reprimanded for his remark.

Children should be encouraged to be themselves and embrace their individuality, not be subject to such inappropriate comments.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
34. You don't get to make the rules for private schools
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:10 AM
Jun 2015

They do.

If she was going out with friends or to a club...go for it. But I don't think it's appropriate for school. You have your opinion, I have mine.

kcr

(15,320 posts)
41. No, but people can say whatever they like about them
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:29 AM
Jun 2015

If they're ridiculous, people are going to comment, especially if it says something about the person kicking the girl out.

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
44. I'm well aware of who makes the rules....
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 12:40 PM
Jun 2015

and I do not need for you to explain that to me or anyone else. That is very presumptuous on your part. It appears the school told the kids to wear the clothes they wore during non-school hours. Perhaps they were remiss in not giving better guidelines to outside clothing.

However, your opinion that her clothing was inappropriate has no bearing on the fact that the school official made an inappropriate remark. I find it surprising anyone would blame the child for her attire and not see the larger problem here is the official's remark unless they agree with his opinion.


 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
38. Oh good lord. My friends and I dressed
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:22 AM
Jun 2015

in the 80s version of this style and the administration never said a word because all the Goth kids were good students and smart as fuck.

She looks fantastic and nobody had any business bugging her about her style.

Panich52

(5,829 posts)
55. Did you miss the part where their own clothes were ok'd 1 day over the usual uniforms
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:38 PM
Jun 2015

for charity event?

I suspect the perv school official just has a fetish for leather.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
59. That school requires uniforms
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 05:40 PM
Jun 2015

read closer

It was a day specifically for breaking convention. They normally wear uniforms.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
60. I posted the link to their uniform page
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 05:43 PM
Jun 2015

But just because they didn't have to wear them that day doesn't mean anything goes.

FourScore

(9,704 posts)
43. It was "wear what you want day". The skrt is below the fingertips and
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:39 AM
Jun 2015

she's fully clothed on top... She fulfilled all the school requirements. She's goth. It's a style.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
19. They ordinarily wear uniforms.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:36 AM
Jun 2015

This was apparently a special day.

My kids school has "pajama day" during homecoming week.

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
23. It was their "wear what you want" day.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:41 AM
Jun 2015

Normally, as stated in the OP, the kids at that school wear uniforms.

Personally, I see nothing wrong with that outfit. The girl's "naughty bits" are fully covered. She has some leather accessories, a choker and some sock garters.

What is it, exactly, that you find to be a problem in her attire? I'd be interested to read that.

I'll watch for your reply.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
26. From the waist up, nothing
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:49 AM
Jun 2015

The short shorts and the garters are what puts this over the top for a school setting.

Having raised 2 girls, I can assure you that they wouldn't have left the house to go to school wearing that.

This is obviously a conservative school. I find it very hard to believe that the child or her mother thought this outfit would pass muster.

http://www.kingcharlesschool.co.uk/index.php/uniform

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
30. Silliness.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:54 AM
Jun 2015

While you're certainly free to insist that your own children not wear such things, I object to your insistence that other people's children be shamed for doing so. This girl's mother was OK with her attire, according to the article at the link. She's covered up adequately. It's a style of dress that some kids adopt. Looks like a costume to me, but I'm not 15, nor am I a goth fan.

The school official is the one who needs to be criticized, for seeing some sort of kinky sexual message in her attire. The girl was fine. She work the clothes she likes, as suggested by the school for this charity day. Any sexual connotations in her clothing is in the mind of the viewer alone.

If she's covered up, it's OK with me if she dresses in punk or goth clothing. I'm not seeing the problem here.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
31. Well if they don't like the dress code,
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:02 AM
Jun 2015

they're free to attend another school. They might want to look into a public school because most, if not all private ones have much stricter rules.

Don't like the rules, find one that has rules you like. Easy.

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
35. I see. Well, apparently that girl's mother is doing just that.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:12 AM
Jun 2015

So, that's your answer? It's an interesting one, indeed. Maybe we can look at it another way and make a comparison. In some states in the U.S., it's almost impossible for a woman to obtain an abortion. Maybe those women should look for another state to live in. I mean, why should they have reproductive choice everywhere? They can just move. How does that sound to you?

That school has a dress code: students wear standardized uniforms. On this one day, they invited the students to dress as they chose. That girl chose to wear a gothish/punkish outfit, complete with leather choker and garter bands. She's covered almost her entire body. Yet, the official at that school said that she looked like she practiced bondage. He appears to have used his imagination in a way I don't find appropriate.

Maybe we could get a photo of a line of girls who attend that school as they were dressed on that non-uniform day. That would be informative, I'll bet.

Here's what I think: The school official was really offended by the clothing because it wasn't conservative enough to suit him. It was a bit cheeky, as they say in the UK, and not standard enough for him. Besides, he was slightly aroused by her, and that disturbed him, so he blamed her and her attire.

I though it was a creative outfit and not at all unsuitable for a dress-down day. I'd have smiled and said, "Kids..." and gotten on with my work day and let her get on with her school day. That's what I'd have done.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
39. Garters are just garters.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:24 AM
Jun 2015

Pervy adult minds shouldn't sexualize teen girls regardless of what they've strapped on their thighs.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
50. her shorts come down to her fingertips
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:01 PM
Jun 2015

that's too short? i wore dresses and skirts that length in high school. you going to judge my parents for "letting" me out of the house dressed "that way"?

the only problem here is the superiority your replies are oozing.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
62. Hell, I wore shorts much shorter than that as a kid, and a male, ahh, the 1980s...
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 05:51 PM
Jun 2015

if only they would come back. lol

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
61. Those shorts aren't that short, especially this time of year...
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 05:50 PM
Jun 2015

in fact, this girl is dressed far more "modestly" compared to most people I see outside, whether in school or not.

Also, my school didn't have school uniforms, the basic rules were no profanity and/or "gang colors". I'm sure there were a few others, but we had kids go all out on the leather, chains, garters, etc. and they were never sent home, I was told to turn my Big Johnson shirt inside out because of the sexual innuendos though. This was back in 1992-1996.

kcr

(15,320 posts)
42. The issue isn't whether it's appropriate attire
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:32 AM
Jun 2015

It's the fact that idiot thought it bondage attire. And it was a special "wear what you want" day. They normally wear uniforms.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
58. They normally wear uniforms
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 05:37 PM
Jun 2015

take a closer look at the story.

It was a common thing done at schools that have uniforms - by donating to a charity, or raising donations for it, the kids could wear what they wanted.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
20. I like school uniforms..just makes life simpler, cheaper, and in some cases safer.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:38 AM
Jun 2015

Color codes for schools makes it easier to ID outsiders.
Less pressure on kids for having the latest fashion when lots of parents may not be able to afford the latest fashions.
Less work for mom and much cheaper to purchase three to six uniforms for an entire schools year and the uniforms can be carried forward.

School boards with PTAs and votes by the student body can select the color and style initially, giving the student body as say initially.

Less distraction, fighting, stealing, bullying, and ridicule among the students. Just my opinion.

Iggo

(47,568 posts)
36. This school has proper uniforms.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:13 AM
Jun 2015

From the article: "Most days, kids wear uniforms, but for a charity event, kids were encouraged to wear their own clothes."

edhopper

(33,619 posts)
27. The spiked collar and leather leggings
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:51 AM
Jun 2015

are bondage paraphernalia.
But a better approach would have been taking her aside, maybe ask her to take off the collar, and say in the future that isn't appropriate attire.
Give her the benefit of the doubt that at 15 she didn't know the significance and just thought it was cool.

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
45. Spiked collars and leather leggings are also goth....
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 12:46 PM
Jun 2015

and have nothing to do with bondage. To equate this with bondage attire alludes to the same idiotic, perverted logic the school official used.



edhopper

(33,619 posts)
48. They are ALSO goth
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 12:54 PM
Jun 2015

but bondage wear as well. As I said, the school can call it inappropriate, but the manner they do so is what's important.

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
52. Let me clarify...
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:13 PM
Jun 2015

I was stating when worn as goth, these items are not representing bondage.

Let's not forget the issue here... the school has every right to deem what is appropriate, right or wrong... they do not have the right to use the language used when describing this student.

edhopper

(33,619 posts)
54. I agree with that
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:16 PM
Jun 2015

Taking her aside and just telling her it is inappropriate is the way to go.
Calling her out as wearing bondage was wrong.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
63. I remember in my high school, the goth/punk teens wore much raunchier stuff than her...
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 05:57 PM
Jun 2015

I dated a girl that wore thigh-high boots and a spiked collar, at school.

Granted we didn't have school uniforms, it was a public school in the early 1990s, oh and this is in the Midwest rather than England.

I really don't even see what the big deal is, her outfit is tame compared to most in many schools and the public on both sides of the pond.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
29. A lot of kids look like this and I don't think of bondage when I see kids nor
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:53 AM
Jun 2015

do most people. That all said, I can see why a strict school might have a concern.



 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
32. While opinions clearly vary about the appropriateness
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:04 AM
Jun 2015

of this young lady's outfit, I really think it's hardly "body shaming" to tell someone they're dressed inappropriately. I have no real opinion about this particular outfit.

While I personally don't think of bondage when I see the outfit, it does seem a bit much for school.

I don't understand why so many kids think they ought to be allowed to wear anything at all to school (and yes, I understand that this particular school normally has the students wear a uniform) when if they ever get a paying job they will probably be faced with a dress code vastly stricter than exists at most schools.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
51. Personally, I think we should be encouraging our young people to express their individuality.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:09 PM
Jun 2015

This leads to them learning to think for themselves, rather than just follow instructions.

Thus, I'm not a big fan of dress codes and such.

Vinca

(50,308 posts)
53. She looks like a teenage girl.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:14 PM
Jun 2015

Thirty years from now she'll think this photo is really, really funny.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
57. American dopeyness is spreading across the pond
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 02:46 PM
Jun 2015

apparently. Nothing out of line about this on "wear what you want" day. She won't frighten the horses.

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