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Not. The. Onion.
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Erin got booted out of class at King Charles I in Worcestershire, England until she called her mom to bring some pants over to the school so shed be covered up.
Mom Kaye didnt want to see Erin body-shamed, so she told her to just come home from school for the day....
When Kaye pressed him on why, he finally said She looks like she does bondage. Shocked, she pulled Erin out of King Charles I, and Erins at home as they look for a new school without pervy administrators.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)...he thinks of bondage?
Um..maybe being vice-principal at a school in not the job this creep should have.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)That's more than a little bit creepy.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Given all the stories one hears about English "public" schools...
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)Creep or anything? (Full credit to "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)As they say at the shop, "There's your problem right there."
Dr. Strange
(25,925 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Oh,wait...Ollie beat me to it.
LostOne4Ever
(9,290 posts)[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]
I am sick of these assholes shaming girls for their clothes![/font]
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)What kind of creepy old man mind...?
eppur_se_muova
(36,295 posts)I think one could be excused for thinking all police in univorm remind them of bondage.
tblue37
(65,489 posts)command to the school's "head." IOW, "deputy head". = something like assistant principal.
eppur_se_muova
(36,295 posts)(I wasn't even sure if British police carry handcuffs, for that matter.)
Snobblevitch
(1,958 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)Who would think of bondage seeing that on a child? Only a creep.
Iggo
(47,568 posts)Which backward country did this take place in?
Oh...
B2G
(9,766 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)and they have them for a reason.
That is not school appropriate. Sorry, it's just not.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Much like you and the staff member, I too enjoy pretending I know what is or is not appropriate... as long as we all realize it's merely pretense on our parts, and we don't really have the relevant knowledge.
CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)It is not too short, nor does it reveal those "naughty things" girls should never reveal. like shoulders, arms, or thighs. The kids were encouraged to wear their own clothes to a school which normally requires uniforms.
The crime here is in the mind of the school official... who should be reprimanded for his remark.
Children should be encouraged to be themselves and embrace their individuality, not be subject to such inappropriate comments.
B2G
(9,766 posts)They do.
If she was going out with friends or to a club...go for it. But I don't think it's appropriate for school. You have your opinion, I have mine.
kcr
(15,320 posts)If they're ridiculous, people are going to comment, especially if it says something about the person kicking the girl out.
CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)and I do not need for you to explain that to me or anyone else. That is very presumptuous on your part. It appears the school told the kids to wear the clothes they wore during non-school hours. Perhaps they were remiss in not giving better guidelines to outside clothing.
However, your opinion that her clothing was inappropriate has no bearing on the fact that the school official made an inappropriate remark. I find it surprising anyone would blame the child for her attire and not see the larger problem here is the official's remark unless they agree with his opinion.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)in the 80s version of this style and the administration never said a word because all the Goth kids were good students and smart as fuck.
She looks fantastic and nobody had any business bugging her about her style.
CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)The kids I knew who are goth... are smart as hell usually and see through BS like this.
Panich52
(5,829 posts)for charity event?
I suspect the perv school official just has a fetish for leather.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)read closer
It was a day specifically for breaking convention. They normally wear uniforms.
B2G
(9,766 posts)But just because they didn't have to wear them that day doesn't mean anything goes.
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)That said he is a perv
FourScore
(9,704 posts)she's fully clothed on top... She fulfilled all the school requirements. She's goth. It's a style.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)This was apparently a special day.
My kids school has "pajama day" during homecoming week.
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)Normally, as stated in the OP, the kids at that school wear uniforms.
Personally, I see nothing wrong with that outfit. The girl's "naughty bits" are fully covered. She has some leather accessories, a choker and some sock garters.
What is it, exactly, that you find to be a problem in her attire? I'd be interested to read that.
I'll watch for your reply.
B2G
(9,766 posts)The short shorts and the garters are what puts this over the top for a school setting.
Having raised 2 girls, I can assure you that they wouldn't have left the house to go to school wearing that.
This is obviously a conservative school. I find it very hard to believe that the child or her mother thought this outfit would pass muster.
http://www.kingcharlesschool.co.uk/index.php/uniform
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)While you're certainly free to insist that your own children not wear such things, I object to your insistence that other people's children be shamed for doing so. This girl's mother was OK with her attire, according to the article at the link. She's covered up adequately. It's a style of dress that some kids adopt. Looks like a costume to me, but I'm not 15, nor am I a goth fan.
The school official is the one who needs to be criticized, for seeing some sort of kinky sexual message in her attire. The girl was fine. She work the clothes she likes, as suggested by the school for this charity day. Any sexual connotations in her clothing is in the mind of the viewer alone.
If she's covered up, it's OK with me if she dresses in punk or goth clothing. I'm not seeing the problem here.
B2G
(9,766 posts)they're free to attend another school. They might want to look into a public school because most, if not all private ones have much stricter rules.
Don't like the rules, find one that has rules you like. Easy.
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)So, that's your answer? It's an interesting one, indeed. Maybe we can look at it another way and make a comparison. In some states in the U.S., it's almost impossible for a woman to obtain an abortion. Maybe those women should look for another state to live in. I mean, why should they have reproductive choice everywhere? They can just move. How does that sound to you?
That school has a dress code: students wear standardized uniforms. On this one day, they invited the students to dress as they chose. That girl chose to wear a gothish/punkish outfit, complete with leather choker and garter bands. She's covered almost her entire body. Yet, the official at that school said that she looked like she practiced bondage. He appears to have used his imagination in a way I don't find appropriate.
Maybe we could get a photo of a line of girls who attend that school as they were dressed on that non-uniform day. That would be informative, I'll bet.
Here's what I think: The school official was really offended by the clothing because it wasn't conservative enough to suit him. It was a bit cheeky, as they say in the UK, and not standard enough for him. Besides, he was slightly aroused by her, and that disturbed him, so he blamed her and her attire.
I though it was a creative outfit and not at all unsuitable for a dress-down day. I'd have smiled and said, "Kids..." and gotten on with my work day and let her get on with her school day. That's what I'd have done.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Pervy adult minds shouldn't sexualize teen girls regardless of what they've strapped on their thighs.
fizzgig
(24,146 posts)that's too short? i wore dresses and skirts that length in high school. you going to judge my parents for "letting" me out of the house dressed "that way"?
the only problem here is the superiority your replies are oozing.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)if only they would come back. lol
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)in fact, this girl is dressed far more "modestly" compared to most people I see outside, whether in school or not.
Also, my school didn't have school uniforms, the basic rules were no profanity and/or "gang colors". I'm sure there were a few others, but we had kids go all out on the leather, chains, garters, etc. and they were never sent home, I was told to turn my Big Johnson shirt inside out because of the sexual innuendos though. This was back in 1992-1996.
kcr
(15,320 posts)It's the fact that idiot thought it bondage attire. And it was a special "wear what you want" day. They normally wear uniforms.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)take a closer look at the story.
It was a common thing done at schools that have uniforms - by donating to a charity, or raising donations for it, the kids could wear what they wanted.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Color codes for schools makes it easier to ID outsiders.
Less pressure on kids for having the latest fashion when lots of parents may not be able to afford the latest fashions.
Less work for mom and much cheaper to purchase three to six uniforms for an entire schools year and the uniforms can be carried forward.
School boards with PTAs and votes by the student body can select the color and style initially, giving the student body as say initially.
Less distraction, fighting, stealing, bullying, and ridicule among the students. Just my opinion.
Iggo
(47,568 posts)From the article: "Most days, kids wear uniforms, but for a charity event, kids were encouraged to wear their own clothes."
edhopper
(33,619 posts)are bondage paraphernalia.
But a better approach would have been taking her aside, maybe ask her to take off the collar, and say in the future that isn't appropriate attire.
Give her the benefit of the doubt that at 15 she didn't know the significance and just thought it was cool.
CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)and have nothing to do with bondage. To equate this with bondage attire alludes to the same idiotic, perverted logic the school official used.
edhopper
(33,619 posts)but bondage wear as well. As I said, the school can call it inappropriate, but the manner they do so is what's important.
CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)I was stating when worn as goth, these items are not representing bondage.
Let's not forget the issue here... the school has every right to deem what is appropriate, right or wrong... they do not have the right to use the language used when describing this student.
edhopper
(33,619 posts)Taking her aside and just telling her it is inappropriate is the way to go.
Calling her out as wearing bondage was wrong.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)I dated a girl that wore thigh-high boots and a spiked collar, at school.
Granted we didn't have school uniforms, it was a public school in the early 1990s, oh and this is in the Midwest rather than England.
I really don't even see what the big deal is, her outfit is tame compared to most in many schools and the public on both sides of the pond.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)do most people. That all said, I can see why a strict school might have a concern.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)of this young lady's outfit, I really think it's hardly "body shaming" to tell someone they're dressed inappropriately. I have no real opinion about this particular outfit.
While I personally don't think of bondage when I see the outfit, it does seem a bit much for school.
I don't understand why so many kids think they ought to be allowed to wear anything at all to school (and yes, I understand that this particular school normally has the students wear a uniform) when if they ever get a paying job they will probably be faced with a dress code vastly stricter than exists at most schools.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)We all agree.
aikoaiko
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Maedhros
(10,007 posts)This leads to them learning to think for themselves, rather than just follow instructions.
Thus, I'm not a big fan of dress codes and such.
Vinca
(50,308 posts)Thirty years from now she'll think this photo is really, really funny.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)apparently. Nothing out of line about this on "wear what you want" day. She won't frighten the horses.