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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums92% of Democrats are comfortable voting for Hillary.
Ninety-two percent.
That's how many Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents in a new NBC-Wall Street Journal poll said they could see themselves supporting Hillary Clinton for the party's nomination in 2016, a stark sign of how little genuine resistance there is within the party to the idea of the former secretary of state as the nominee.
In fact, support for Clinton on that question has risen since NBC-WSJ last asked it in March, even as Bernie Sanders appears to be picking up momentum in his primary challenge to Clinton. In March, 86 percent of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents said they could see themselves supporting Clinton, while 13 percent said they could not imagine themselves supporting her.
Compare that to where the Republican field stands on that same question. Jeb Bush leads the way with 75 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents saying they could support him, while 74 percent said the same of Marco Rubio. Mike Huckabee (65 percent could support), Scott Walker (57 percent) and Rick Perry (53 percent) round out the top five for the GOP.
The simple fact is that for all the chatter about discontent toward Clinton, it's indisputable that her side is not only very comfortable with the idea of her as the nominee but significantly more so than Republicans are with any of their options.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/06/23/theres-a-new-poll-number-that-shows-just-how-likely-hillary-clinton-is-to-be-the-democratic-nominee/
Tarheel_Dem
(31,241 posts)JI7
(89,271 posts)like the ones with Kucinich winning.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,241 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)And i want a similar number for Bernie.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)with veto power over a republican.'
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Nobel_Twaddle_III
(323 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)...who wouldn't vote for her should she run in the general?
Amishman
(5,559 posts)so might as well vote of Hillary in the election and at least have a corporate controlled president who gets social issues right.
elleng
(131,129 posts)I'm 'comfortable' voting for Hillary in the General, but will support a different candidate in the primary.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Q12-Q15 ASKED OF DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY VOTERS ONLY
Q12 Next, Im going to mention a number of people who might seek the Democratic nomination for president in
2016. For each one, please tell me, yes or no, whether you could see yourself supporting that person for
the Democratic nomination president in 2016. If you don't know the name, please just say so. (RANDOMIZE
LIST)
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/6_22_PollPDF.pdf
elleng
(131,129 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)In the NBC link in this article. Most notable is how few people know who Sanders is. 49 out of 100. So, frankly, at this point, it's irrelevant. 4 months from now I will take it more seriously.
elleng
(131,129 posts)'Comfortable' suggests one KNOWS about the candidate and has a positive opinion.
Considering that Sen Sanders has just started getting his name out there, this poll is irrelevant.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)I could see myself voting for Hillary but I'll be damned if I will be comfortable with it.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)elleng
(131,129 posts)there's little basis upon which to compare degree of 'comfort.'
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)35% of the households polled were from households earning 75K and up. 22% were of those polled were from households earning 100K and up.
This poll is a bit tilted economically speaking.
Cassidy1
(300 posts)Hilary is a candidate of the working class who is tough on terrorism. Nothing wrong with that.
NanceGreggs
(27,818 posts)... (as predicted on DU on a daily basis), she's going to have to work really, really hard at getting those numbers down.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,241 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Just IMO anyway, I think she cannot be beat.
riversedge
(70,306 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)A die hard 8%er!
enlightenment
(8,830 posts)but rather stilted demographically.
The majority of respondents were white - professional or white collar (followed by retired) - older - identify as "moderate" - apparently extremely conservative socially, with:
73% opposed to same-sex marriage
67% supportive of the NRA and other gun rights groups
61% supportive of the "right-to-life" movement
80% belong to non-union households
Wilms
(26,795 posts)I'm not sure if that helps in getting a good survey.
Behind the Aegis
(53,989 posts)73% opposed to same-sex marriage
67% supportive of the NRA and other gun rights groups
61% supportive of the "right-to-life" movement
Results shown reflect responses among registered voters who say they would vote in the Republican Primary
Can't say that is really all that surprising.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Democrats have very negative views on Obama but they support HRC in such high numbers?
Doesn't make sense.
These are most white Democrats, though. So it does I guess.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)Well, that explains a lot.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,212 posts)so it can't be true.
Prism
(5,815 posts)But I would be comfortable voting for her in the general, because the Supreme Court holds our nation's future in the balance and I do not fear who she would nominate.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Bwahahahahahahhahahha.
Cool story bro.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)There, fixed it
onenote
(42,767 posts)GE sold a controlling share of NBC to Comcast in 2011. It sold its entire remaining interest to Comcast about a year and a half ago.
marym625
(17,997 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)There will be no character trashing after the primary. No smear campaign like the one they pulled on poor old Acid, Amnesty and Abortion McGovern. America knows exactly who and what Clinton is. I have never in my life seen numbers like those, except for an incumbant.
Warpy
(111,352 posts)There's a big difference there. Besides, this far out, it's all name recognition more than anything else. The election is 16 months away. Ask the same question in a year and the answers will be a bit more meaningful.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)For each one, please tell me, yes or no, whether you could see yourself supporting that person for
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)but "Cali" is a different DUer than "Cali_Democrat"
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Thanks for setting the record straight.
Warpy
(111,352 posts)Don't mistake this poll as proof of enthusiasm. The election is 16 months away. Enthusiasm is not there.
840high
(17,196 posts)DJ13
(23,671 posts)She was in about the same place before Obama became better known back in 07.
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)Cha
(297,692 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,818 posts)... that after five-plus hours of being up on DU, this OP only has 16 recs and 30 replies.
I guess there are numbers some folks here just don't want to acknowledge, no less discuss.
sgtbenobo
(327 posts).... "Bernie Change Deniers."
There are only three types of people in this world. Those that count, and those that can't.
If Bella Abzug were alive today who do you think she would vote for?
"I spend all day figuring out how to beat the machine and knock the crap out of the political power structure."
I think she'd vote for Bernie.
War is really hard on women.
Bernie does not like war. He lives in his house. He respects his neighbors.
Mrs. Clinton says she is, "strong on defense" and a caring grandmother. She never went. My son did. Our family has been forever changed.
Because she should have stood up when she was supposed to. And said, "NO."
She voted for the THE FUCKING WAR!
The worst decision in modern American history.
Senator Clinton should not have been listening to her husband.
And yet, there are those here on DU that say she's the best person qualified to lead the country.
Carry on.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)Clinton is leading Sanders 75% to 15%.
By all means argue that it would be a good thing if Sanders won.
But to argue that Sanders is likely to win can only be based on pure blind faith and wishful thinking, and the wilful denial of the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Response to Donald Ian Rankin (Reply #37)
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Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"The illusion which exalts you is dearer to you than ten thousand truths."
~Pushkin~
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)Aspects in deciding to vote or not vote for someone in the primary
Never an apology and a flimsy excuse that she was fooled. We knew. Senator Sanders and a few others knew. Journalists knew. How is it possible that she didn't?
There is no excuse. What this vote did to our country, our families, the Iraqi people and their country and our relationship with most of the world, is inexcusable. Not to even touch on all the lives lost for nothing but profit.
It's still ongoing. It's a never ending horror that Hillary Clinton voted to start.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)but not a one of them is comfortable with voting for Hillary.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)and friends have already bought their Hillary buttons and bumperstickers. Of course, she was our Senator so it's no surprise she's very popular in NY.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)She said "everybody I know voted for McGovern"
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)LoZo was from Chicago. I don't believe Cali Democrat is from Chicago.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)onenote
(42,767 posts)Cha
(297,692 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Yes I got a hide because evidently someone took my comment serious. That was on the 29th on a different thread.
Evidently a lot of the HRC supporters are humor challenged.
Cha
(297,692 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Have you responded to the poster that says Better Believe It too?
Rex
(65,616 posts)You made a funny!
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)All polls are flawed/biased/too-early if they do not validate my opinions.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Understand that her record overall is excellent and that she promotes positive change in society.
AndreaCG
(2,331 posts)That's good news. Whichever of the delusional jack offs in the republican field we run against would be a disaster and I'm glad most democrats realize it.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)I think trying to shoehorn it into the narrative playing out here at DU ignores what the story says.
I do not prefer, at this time, any of those applying to me for the job of chief representative in the executive branch. The long interview and application process does not require me to make a decision until June of 2016. So I stand with the 92% who are comfortable with Hillary.
I will vote for any our candidates in the general who win the nomination.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)truebrit71
(20,805 posts)Yay!!!
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,367 posts)... but I'm even more comfortable voting for Bernie.
As the saying goes, I'm comfortable voting for a yellow dog, as long as it's a Democrat.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)She's only got a year to win over the last eight percent!!!
MellowDem
(5,018 posts)The party feels "comfortable" for voting for a pro-corporate moderate Republican from the 90s candidate because she's marginally better than the only other option. Woo-hoo.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)It's a loaded word because it's completely subjective, and shouldn't be used to poll people. Of course - if Hillary is the nominee I will vote for her. Am I comfortable doing it? No. Would I rather she be elected than than a Republican, hell yes.
That doesn't mean I'll be happy or comfortable if it comes down to that. But I'll do my duty as a good Democrat if need be.
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)will vote for her if she's on the ticket in the general.
DUers in general aren't very representative of average Democrats, being both more informed and more political.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Apparently, "comfortable" includes reluctant noseholders.
DFW
(54,443 posts)If 8% of likely Democratic voters stay home or vote third party on election day for WHATEVER reason, I promise you the next president will be a Republican, and the next three Supreme Court Justices will think, talk and vote like Scalia, Thomas and Alito.
Now, I realize the anti-Clinton chatter on DU is disproportionate to the country as a whole. I know that some can't even post without including "corporate," "corporatist," or "corporation" in every other sentence. If I were Bernie Sanders, I'd tell them to tone it down a notch. He has one very positive message to offer, and it gets poisoned by all the negatives spewed in his name. I doubt Bernie will sink to their level, and if Hillary falls into that trap, she deserves the same fate that befell her in 2008, only sooner (I suspect she has learned her lesson, and we will not hear "shame on you" this time around).
But don't forget, with a majority of statehouses, voter disenfranchisement, Fox Noise and Koch-Adelson,etc. money, the Republicans (remember them? our REAL enemies?) have a built-in advantage in statewide--and therefore national--elections. Their ticket gets an automatic 42% of the popular vote even if their ticket consists of Garfield and Odie.
We can't afford to lose 8% of our own people for any reason. 92% support from their own party in a presidential election is not a comforting number for any Democratic candidate. Not in today's America.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)(Not that it'll make a lot of difference; I doubt she's going to carry Georgia.)
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I can't vote for Hillary. But I wish her the best. If she wins, she wins. I won't have an issue with it. I support democracy, and if that's what the people decide, I'm cool.
liberal N proud
(60,346 posts)HFRN
(1,469 posts)most people
marym625
(17,997 posts)In the first part of the questions, 49 of 100 people didn't know who Bernie Sanders is.
Just like Sanders went from almost a .5% chance a little over a month ago to being just 8% behind Clinton now, within another month, he'll be leading the pack.
The more people learn about Senator Bernie Sanders and his irreproachable record, the more people support him
It's all good!
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Let us strange denizens of this insignificant enclave known as DU throw our votes away in peace.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Not a chance
Zorra
(27,670 posts)race issues in attempts to slander Bernie Sanders.
Due to that, and some completely uncalled for nastiness from Hillary campaigners at the Pride Festival, I have serious reservations about voting for her in the GE.
This is the first time in 40 plus years as a voter that I have even considered not voting for a Democratic candidate in any general election.
Hillary, save me from your followers.