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Senator Bernie Sanders presidential campaign is already enjoying success that few could have predicted. Bernie is a big deal. Well, OK, if youre a white progressive hes a big deal. Otherwise, you may have no idea who he is, according to reporting this morning in the New York Times. The Times Patrick Healy and Jonathan Martin write that black voters have shown little interest in [Sanders] and that [e]ven his own campaign advisers acknowledge that Mr. Sanders is virtually unknown to many African-Americans, an enormously important Democratic constituency.
But as his presidential campaign gains altitude and attention, Sanders may be on the way to securing the most difficult black progressive endorsement there is: the blessing of Professor Cornel West, one of Americas leading public intellectuals. Celebrity is rare in American academe, but the eccentric West (along with MITs Noam Chomsky) is something of a superstar scholar. Hes our Slavoj iek, but with far better hair and a sense of fashion.
Speaking with Grit TVs Laura Flanders in early June, the black academic icon was asked by the host if he will be supporting the increasingly popular candidate for president.
I love brother Bernie, West replied. He tells the truth about Wall Street. He really does.
http://www.salon.com/2015/06/24/bernie_sanders_cornel_west_the_radical_alliance_that_could_change_everything/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
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Interesting.
grasswire
(50,130 posts).....Cornell West is speaking to 6,000 Unitarians here in Portland later in the week at their General Assembly. The speech is expected to be a barn burner. I have asked a family member who will be there to tip me off if there's any mention of Bernie.
A West endorsement of Bernie would be a total game changer.
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)JI7
(89,264 posts)napi21
(45,806 posts)That' a very important step in getting exposure for Bernie. I would think, if some start paying a little attention to what Bernie says, he will gain a lot in popularity.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)The ones who vote pay attention to his nastiness. Linking up with him would be a bad idea.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I don't know what has happened to him down the years, but he's been really, really nasty for the past decade, at least. He's alienating. He's not the guy to rally the population, not by a long shot!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)When he speaks, I cringe, waiting for him to say something despicable.
sheshe2
(83,898 posts)Cringe worthy.
Hi bravenak
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Hey!!
7962
(11,841 posts)Seems like he gets his clues on how to stay in the spotlight from Rush Limbaugh. Just say something stupid every now and then to keep your name in the news.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)craves to fed his ego.
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)These dirty tricks are old!
Cornel West has said some inflammatory things in the past about Jews and the president. I do not believe the man to be an anti-Semite but the label follows him. Conservatives will use it to hammer Sanders left and right. Whether or not I like Cornel West and what he has to say, many voters will not investigate on their own. They will absorb the hearsay. Some Jewish voters will believe West to be anti-Semitic because they have heard it before. It is far far too soon to say if a Cornel West endorsement is a positive or a negative. To say it is a game changer is histrionic.
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)A West endorsement.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)If so, this is the first I've heard of it
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)that Obama was the first "niggerized black President." Sanders would be crazy to associate himself with that.
http://crooksandliars.com/2015/06/cornel-west-obama-first-niggerized-black
Number23
(24,544 posts)I refuse to believe that Sanders or his team would do this. West would not broaden Sanders' appeal in the LEAST because the same folks that like West (white liberals) are already on team Sanders.
And on to the fact that Cornell has blowtorched every single, solitary connection he has ever had with the black community and.... good God. I refuse to believe that Sanders would do this and I ESPECIALLY refuse to believe that anyone with any brain would think this would be a good thing for his minority outreach.
JustAnotherGen
(31,879 posts)I'm having trouble believing the author of the article wrote that seriously. Or that it escaped the editors at Salon. I'm still thinking it must be satire.
Number23
(24,544 posts)because alot of the smarter, more savvier ones have no use for him either.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)I like his work before President Obama was elected. He hasn't written anything of significance since. For me he started to jump the shark when he appeared in the Matrix movies.
Quayblue
(1,045 posts)I've been giving West the side eye since 1997.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Quayblue
(1,045 posts)Lol!!!!
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)Last edited Mon Jul 6, 2015, 12:57 AM - Edit history (2)
in the msm. msm will have a heyday with this association
uh, seems it is already in the works. i cannot remember exactly which show i was watching but bernie was asked diretly about cornell west and he indicated they have known one another for some time. but, that was it.
there are many other credible and respected representatives in the african american and other "minority" communities and worker forces. it behooves the sanders campaign taking the time to directly ask the communities. in addition, they can also consider reps in communities for different regions since the issues in each are varied.
Number23
(24,544 posts)He aligns with Cornell West and he will prove beyond ALL SHADOW OF DOUBT that everything that everyone has been saying is true. It's really that simple.
And as you said, there are a million other more reputable people that he can align with. This would be such a stupid move for him.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)sheshe2
(83,898 posts)So where the hell did this come from?
Yes I linked to a thread, yet do you think there is some truth in this? Will Bernie do this? Some supporters I linked to think it is a fabulous idea.
Holy Shit!
Cha
(297,655 posts)You'd think.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)Why would anyone who "wants" Bernie to win, want him to get messed up with West?
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)Like the first response in this thread that said an alliance with West would be a "game changer" for Sanders.
It's pitiful and endearing at the same time.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)death knell this would be for Bernie.. even if Cornell has all the right credentials of hatin' on President Obama?
Calling Obama a global George Zimmerman?No. No.: Michael Eric Dyson sounds off on Cornel West, Obama & his critics
The Georgetown University scholar and author reflects on his very public break with his mentor turned tormentor
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/22/calling_obama_a_global_george_zimmerman_no_no_michael_eric_dyson_sounds_off_on_cornel_west_obama_his_critics/
FSogol
(45,526 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)alright.. in the most palinesque way imaginable.
http://crooksandliars.com/2015/06/cornel-west-obama-first-niggerized-black
Calling Obama a global George Zimmerman?No. No.: Michael Eric Dyson sounds off on Cornel West, Obama & his critics
The Georgetown University scholar and author reflects on his very public break with his mentor turned tormentor
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/22/calling_obama_a_global_george_zimmerman_no_no_michael_eric_dyson_sounds_off_on_cornel_west_obama_his_critics/
Let's hope Bernie is more in touch with the Black Community than hooking up with ol nasty mouth.
Volaris
(10,274 posts)If part of Bernies invest in America instead of wall st agenda were to include kicking NASA an extra couple billion dollars a year, we could probably add Dr. Tyson to that list as well.
=)
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Cornell West was actively vocal in opposing Obama and said a lot of nasty things about him (e.g., I heard him say on the radio that "he's not really a 'brother'), before, during, and after the election. My guess is the black community may not automatically fall into line because Dr. West endorses. Or at least it might be a tougher sell than one might think.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Only now are many coming to see that.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)He was absolutely dead on right!
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)I recently heard Obama called something by an African-American in a group of African-Americans who agreed with him. I can't use the term on DU but think terminology along the lines of something Malcom X would (and did) use.
Cornel West can use whatever terminology he wants to use. As a Caucasian, I don't think I'm in a position to tell a/an African-American(s) what is or is not an acceptable term as used by an African-American.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)His nastiness has been noted. Sanders would be well advised to stay clear.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)the consideration it deserves.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)because of an alliance with West.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)and white folks say, "says who?"
TM99
(8,352 posts)think Obama is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Dr. Cornell West is very respected in my circle of friends. An endorsement of Sanders would be a big coup!
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)are just right wingers, eh?
Yeah, right.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)my point was/is ... the Black electorate is not monothelic, though it does trend in empirically discernible patterns.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)With his attacks on Obama.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)Because the venerable Dr. West wasn't pleased with his inauguration seats and felt disrespected.
At least that's what Michael Eric Dyson says but he's just a Wall Street loving, Oligarch admiring third wayer.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)that West's wounded narcissism was the root of his problem.
He not only couldn't ever aspire to Obama's level of accomplishment, he couldn't even get a good seat in the bleachers.
7962
(11,841 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)An article by Michael Eric Dyson, who was a protege and close friend of West for many years. It's a long read but worth reading in its entirety. That incident is mentioned in detail. I think you or anyone reading this will really enjoy it. It's pretty mind-blowing.
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/121550/cornel-wests-rise-fall-our-most-exciting-black-scholar-ghost
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)And yes, it was an awesome read.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)And didn't Cornel get in hot water selling a junk financial product?
Willing to be corrected on either...
sheshe2
(83,898 posts)Exilednight
(9,359 posts)West is just voicing the frustration that many in the AA community feel, but lacks West's microphone.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)If there are sides to choose, black people choose Obama. Period. We may be frustrated, but he is the least racist president to ever hold the office. We are much more comfortable with Obama than he is given credit for. The only black person I know who cannot stand Obama and does not trust him is my landlord who is mad that Obama 'freed the gays'. Whatever that means.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)is generally full of shit, IMO. I am gay and would never claim to speak for "all gays".
anecdotally I can mention the AA's I know who don't like Obama because he caters to the corporations and is a warmonger and proclaim that means something as well even though it doesn't.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Seems like a trend around here.
The Gallup poll I just referenced shows Obama's current approval with liberal Democrats at 86%.
I think that is pretty good.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/121199/Obama-Weekly-Job-Approval-Demographic-Groups.aspx
'freed the gays'.
Homophobe much?
bravenak
(34,648 posts)For a couple of months, whenever I saw my landlord, I was yelling HOMOPHOBE!!!!! The man is evil, I swear. Evil.
sheshe2
(83,898 posts)And a Homophobe.
Lol, good for you for yelling at him.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)Obamas performance continues to sharply divide Americans across racial, class, and generational lines. While 66 percent of minorities gave him positive marks, only 37 percent of whites concurred. That showing among whites was unchanged since February; Obamas approval among whites has not surpassed 37 percent in any Heartland Poll during his second term except June 2013.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/06/obamas-slow-recovery/396161/
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)i.e., they want to believe it so it must be so.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)PRINCETON, N.J. -- President Barack Obama's job approval rating among U.S. blacks has stayed consistently about 40 percentage points higher than his approval among all Americans since 2010. So far in 2014, blacks' approval of Obama has averaged 84%, which is down from previous years but in line with the drop among the overall American population.
this was Gallup from the end of last year. I have heard of no nose-dive in approval anywhere.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/180176/blacks-approval-president-obama-remains-high.aspx
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)Oh really.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)You have to download the spreadsheet from Gallup to see the weekly numbers.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/121199/Obama-Weekly-Job-Approval-Demographic-Groups.aspx
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)or is this based on a survey of your friends?
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Spazito
(50,453 posts)I guess you just read the headline right?
Details are good:
"As we noted in last week's poll, this is a small sub-sample (about 110 people) in a much-larger poll, meaning there is a high margin of error. In addition, this question directly referenced the grand jury decisions (the WaPo-ABC poll did not) rather than the broader issues at hand, and that likely depressed support for Obama, given how unpopular the lack of indictments have been among blacks.
Obama's approval among blacks in the latest Gallup tracking poll last week, for example, remained a buoyant 82 percent. So it's not like African Americans are suddenly turning on Obama en masse or really anything close to it."
To repeat, just to make sure you read this part:
Obama's approval among blacks in the latest Gallup tracking poll last week, for example, remained a buoyant 82 percent. So it's not like African Americans are suddenly turning on Obama en masse or really anything close to it."
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)except the results of a 110 person subset of a larger poll, with a huge margin or error, that says black people are unhappy with Obama's response to a particular issue.
Not surprising and not indicative of anything else -- except black people ARE able to think for themselves and distinguish cases where they don't support Obama 100% on anything he ever does.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Spazito
(50,453 posts)It completely refutes the very point the poster was making, it's hilarious. It confirms President Obama's support from the black community remains "a buoyant 82%". Here's the quote:
Obama's approval among blacks in the latest Gallup tracking poll last week, for example, remained a buoyant 82 percent. So it's not like African Americans are suddenly turning on Obama en masse or really anything close to it.
Cha
(297,655 posts)LOLGOP ?@LOLGOP
So heartwarming to see Republicans consoling themselves over the bad news that thousands of people won't go bankrupt if they get sick.
5:09 AM - 25 Jun 2015
258 258 Retweets 259 259 favorites
http://theobamadiary.com/2015/06/25/yes-3/
mahalo Spazito!
Spazito
(50,453 posts)the ACA decision and the Fair Housing decision. To make the day perfect I took my youngest grandson to Subway, his choice, to celebrate his graduating from elementary school into junior high! An all around awesome day!
Cha
(297,655 posts)Spazito
(50,453 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Welcome to my very short ignore list.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Oh boy, I'm sure that's a name to conjure with on Main Street. (Yes, I know who he is)
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)But Zizek is both brilliant and hilarious. West is....
Hmmmm.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)still_one
(92,395 posts)Being an atheist, and that will not fly with independents. It will be similar to Reverend Wright statements that caused Obama to distance himself from Wright after the sermons and comments Reverend Wright made.
Bernie stands a real chance to be a contender, but if he embraces West and Chomsky, he won't stand a chance
There are plenty of African Americans who could support Bernies campaign which would add credibility for him in the African American community. Jessie Jackson is one of many who could help him, but not Cornell West
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Good luck with that.
still_one
(92,395 posts)said West or Reverend Wright were "bad guys" either.
I also believe that Bernie can articulate quite well for himself
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)Chomsky and West are unforgiving critics and bless them for that. But you don't rally masses of voters by being a constant critic, as Richard Rorty explains:
(...)
"Those who hope to persuade a nation to exert itself need to remind their country of what it can take pride in as well as what it should be ashamed of. They must tell inspiring stories about episodes and figures in the nation's past -- episodes and figures to which the country should remain true. Nations rely on artists and intellectuals to create images of, and to tell stories about, the national past. Competition for political leadership is in part a competition between differing stories about a nation's self-identity, and between differing symbols of it's greatness." - Richard Rorty. Achieving Our Country. 1997
still_one
(92,395 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)I don't think anyone wants to start playing the game where the candidates are expected to agree with and answer for people who support them. It won't be pretty.
still_one
(92,395 posts)African American vote.
In the very mildest terms, I don't perceive Cornell West as that influential. Controversial with some, but I question how much influence he actually holds
arcane1
(38,613 posts)still_one
(92,395 posts)articulate
arcane1
(38,613 posts)A lot of people out there are more liberal than they think they are, and just need to hear some words instead of slogans.
It's going to be quite a scene
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Bernie and Cornie are cut from the same cloth.
JI7
(89,264 posts)Of Sanders is his campaign reach out. But not a problem with sanders himself and where he stands.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)bigotry and smarm, see Huckabee, Rick Warren and Obama's first primary run. Smarmy prejudice as a pandering lexicon. Piety.
I can't believe people openly say they want to see more religion from Democratic candidates. Just ludicrous.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,361 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,361 posts)Can you give an example of others talking about Sanders' "pious professions of innocence"?
Are you saying you disagree with others calling Sanders 'pious' because you think being seen as 'pious' about something would be good, or bad?
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,361 posts)If you don't want to communicate with your posts, then don't bother making them.
I have no idea at all what this 'innocence' is about. Apart from that it's not religion.
BeyondGeography
(39,379 posts)Cornel would like to use Bernie's platform to stick it to Hillary and Obama. He's operating on a small-minded, score settling personal level while Bernie is keeping it issues-based. He should keep Cornel as far away as possible.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)1) against the TPP, a rather flimsy cover for ODS, and 2) against "money in politics," an even flimsier cover for Clinton fatigue. So the dog whistles. Maybe I'm part canine but I've been hearing it loudly and clearly since January.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)"TPP, a rather flimsy cover for ODS"--large parts of the Democratic Party opposed this, and trying to cast their opposition as nothing more than Obama Derangement Syndrome is insulting.
"Against 'money in politics,' an even flimsier cover for Clinton fatigue"--Really? Do you support Citizens United? A whole lot of Democrats, and Americans in general, think our system is corrupted by cash. And you want to minimize this serious problem for the sake of supporting a candidate. By denigrating anyone who is concerned about this.
You stink up this board.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)No, I'm not suggesting any of this makes sense, or that Mr Jones is by any stretch a Democrat, but he's basically peddling a high-octane version of same wikileaks marsh gas as all the rest, Dems, Repukes, and Independents alike. By my lights it's disinfo and easily recognizable as such.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)It's absurd to say his stance on those issues has anything to do with "ODS" or whatever you called the Hillary equivalent. What a dumb post. Those issues you mock are extremely important, much bigger thanthe personalities you obsess over.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Bernie is more like a Debs. People liked Debs. They won't like the ultra-sectarian side of left-wing politics.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)tishaLA
(14,176 posts)there may be a misreading of the sentiment of many, many black folks here with this West-Sanders thing. West's (and Tavis Smiley's) vitriolic, excessively personal comments about the President have rubbed many people the wrong way.
Spazito
(50,453 posts)and this is not the first indicator of that, it is surely one more, though, and a big one, imo.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)a bill to cripple the middle, working, and even lower upper classes rubs people the wrong way
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)if his goal is to reach out to the broad swath of African American voters.
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)still_one
(92,395 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)the white Third Way conservative vote! It will cost Bernie the white conservative republican vote as well!
Oh, nooooo!
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)being called a "niggerized black" person.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)against Obama because of inauguration seats that he didn't get.
They haven't forgotten that this is what it is has always been about.
raindaddy
(1,370 posts)to bring in Third Way moderates....
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Good luck winning without their support.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)I think maybe it's just that a whole lot of conservative white folks think he's maybe a bit too "uppity".
The NAACP has gathered in New York for a six-day convention celebrating its 100-year anniversary. Its an enormous affair with giants such as Cornel West, Reverend Jesse Jackson, and President Obama paying tribute to the accomplishments of the civil rights organization. The civil rights group was formed by a multi-racial coalition in 1909, sparked in 1908 by a deadly race riot in Springfield Illinois. Nearly a century later, Barack Obama launched his presidential campaign not far from where the riot took place. Looking at the challenges ahead and its past accomplishments we are joined by Melissa Harris-Lacewell. She is an Associate Professor of Politics and African American Studies at Princeton University.
http://www.thetakeaway.org/story/7879-marking-naacps-centennial-convention/
http://columbiaspectator.com/2013/02/21/cornel-west-critiques-obama-talks-mlk-naacp-speech
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)It's pretty clear a great deal don't like his vile and racist attacks on Pres. Obama.
Cha
(297,655 posts)from African Americans who think he's pathetic..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6899179
Hope you don't mind me referring to your quote, bravenak.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)Historic NY
(37,453 posts)not
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)West is a disgusting individual.
mythology
(9,527 posts)He's an obnoxious loud mouth who mistakes stridency with purpose and reason. Name calling doesn't actually equate to intellectual.
That said, Sanders isn't going to seek out this endorsement or bring West into the campaign. It would be politically stupid in that if he wants to attract the kind of support in the African American community that Obama does, you don't go to the guy who refers to the first African American president as the 1st niggardized president. Sanders so far has had trouble attracting African American support, but he clearly has a history of being active on civil rights both historically and currently. He may yet find a way to get that message across to African American voters. Cornel West isn't going to do that.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)with a man who goes out of his way to alienate Obama with name calling.
Sanders is NOT crazy, though I'm beginning to wonder about some of his supporters.
raindaddy
(1,370 posts)"trade bill" I really don't think what's left of Obama's supporters are going to care a whole lot if Bernie gets an endorsement from Cornell West...
NanceGreggs
(27,818 posts)... showing Obama's numbers in free-fall?
"What's left of Obama's supporters" is a rather substantial number.
Bernie can't win without AA voters - and they, for the most part, are still staunch Obama supporters and they revile West.
Can you do the math there? G'head, I just bet you can, if you try.
raindaddy
(1,370 posts)They just passed fast track..Most Americans still have no idea whats in the bill or how it will affect their lives. Once people begin to understand they've yet again been thrown under the bus the last thing on their minds is going to be who Dr. West supports for President.
You have a rather dismal view of Obama's supporters if you think they would be so petty as to not support Bernie because he might be endorsed by someone who voiced criticism of Obama.. I'm wondering who all of these petty voters are going to support considering the nasty ass campaign Hillary ran against Obama..
NanceGreggs
(27,818 posts)... that you are very, very, very new to politics.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)That would really help expand Sanders' base.
raindaddy
(1,370 posts)He was willing to call Obama out on the mass prosecution of whistle blowers and increasing Bush's surveillance of Americans. He also understood the President was in the pocket of Wall Street and the global corporations and expressed the disappointment many of us feel.
You can always count on Dr. West to tell truth to power!
840high
(17,196 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Bernie would do well to stay miles and miles away from Cornel West.
Sid
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)We'll see how far Dr West's hatin' on the President gets ya with the Obama Coalition.
"Obama's approval rating among liberal democrats rises to 86%"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6888903
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)When Bernie said he was in it to win, I totally believed it. Then, and now. Get ready for a political revolution.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)It gives white liberals a black voice to attack Obama and hide behind. Calling Obama the first niggerized president (I wonder if the white Bernie Sanders supports that?) is racist trash - no matter who says it. It's no different than when West or Carson compare Obama to Hitler.
But it's okay when they say it, their supporters say, because they're black! It can't be racist!
Oh sure, white liberals won't dare use the term niggerized - they'll just cheer West on as he uses slimy, racial insults at Pres. Obama.
Cha
(297,655 posts)The Georgetown University scholar and author reflects on his very public break with his mentor turned tormentor
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/22/calling_obama_a_global_george_zimmerman_no_no_michael_eric_dyson_sounds_off_on_cornel_west_obama_his_critics/
"Cornel West is the left's version of Ben Carson and Allen West..."
What makes you say that, DI?
marym625
(17,997 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)alright.. in the most palinesque way imaginable.
http://crooksandliars.com/2015/06/cornel-west-obama-first-niggerized-black
Calling Obama a global George Zimmerman?No. No.: Michael Eric Dyson sounds off on Cornel West, Obama & his critics
The Georgetown University scholar and author reflects on his very public break with his mentor turned tormentor
snip//
When African-American friends defended the president, he went in on them. West called MSNBCs Perry a liar and a fraud, claimed Sharpton was the bona fide house negro of the Obama plantation, and attacked the Michael Dysons and others whove really prostituted themselves intellectually in a very, very ugly and vicious way.
Its true that as Dysons TNR piece bemoans the nasty ad hominem nature of Wests attacks on Obama, as well as on him and his colleagues, he gave almost as good as he got, first praising West as the most exciting black scholar ever, then charting his intellectual decline. His greatest opponent isnt Obama, Sharpton, Harris-Perry, or me, the Georgetown scholars article concludes. It is the ghost of a self that spits at him from his own mirror.
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/22/calling_obama_a_global_george_zimmerman_no_no_michael_eric_dyson_sounds_off_on_cornel_west_obama_his_critics/
Let's hope Bernie is more in touch with the Black Community than hooking up with ol nasty mouth.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Not sure how positive the attention would be but it would bring much needed attention none the less.
Prism
(5,815 posts)The optics alone. "Guy calls President a n----er, endorses Sanders."
Nope nope nope.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)They are so concerned that Bernie will mess up his chances by West endorsing him! Most of them aren't for Bernie anyway, so why do they bother?
I have always liked West, a lot. He's a linguistic bomb-thrower, so his rhetoric won't hold up to the kind of scrutiny the MSM is likely to give it. If I were Bernie I would think twice about bringing him onboard.
And I have no idea how much cred West has with the african american community, that seems important one way or the other, of course it's not a monolithic community, I just don't know to what extent they are into him.
But West liking Bernie just further validates Bernie for me, I've watched quite a few West interviews and know better than to accept the inflammatory attempts here to make the worst of his thoughts, West is an excellent critical analyst of the problems our society is, or should be, dealing with.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,361 posts)... be supporting Bernie Sanders' campaign?', and West answered he likes Sanders on Wall Street, but not on Palestine-Israel. That was it. No endorsement ("Im not gonna sell my precious Palestinian brothers and sisters down the river only because of U.S. politics" , let alone an 'alliance'. There's nothing at all in the article to suggest Sanders has the slightest interest in what West says or does.
struggle4progress
(118,338 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)for Hillary.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Then they would have a field day with West.