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Orrex

(63,216 posts)
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 02:46 PM Jun 2015

Honestly, I'm worried about how to explain this SCOTUS ruling to my kids

How can I make them understand that we have four retrograde bigots permanently seated on the highest court in the land, with the power to issue binding decisions over the entire country?

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Honestly, I'm worried about how to explain this SCOTUS ruling to my kids (Original Post) Orrex Jun 2015 OP
You can explain it by example. The decision did not go as many thought, and that is one Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #1
Doesn't the decision negate your argument? former9thward Jun 2015 #2
Why? Did the four retrograde bigots retire? Orrex Jun 2015 #4
Was Roberts a retrograde bigot former9thward Jun 2015 #6
I see. Orrex Jun 2015 #7
I'm going to shamelessly steal this Fresh_Start Jun 2015 #3
LOL! Orrex Jun 2015 #5
Did you characterize Barack Obama as a "retrograde bigot" in 2008, Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #8
Golly! Refresh my memory--was it 2015 in 2008? Orrex Jun 2015 #9
I give him credit for evolving. Better late than never. Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #10
Tell them it's like being in a family ... Freelancer Jun 2015 #11

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
1. You can explain it by example. The decision did not go as many thought, and that is one
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 03:04 PM
Jun 2015

way we move forward in the US. It is relevant how we ended up with those 4 jurists,
but justice survived them, that is the reality of our form of government.

The ultimate honors go to those who fought and died on the grass roots level, that
would be essential for them to understand, I feel.

former9thward

(32,028 posts)
6. Was Roberts a retrograde bigot
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 03:26 PM
Jun 2015

when he saved the ACA twice? Or just some of the time? Is the author of the decision (Justice Kennedy) a retrograde bigot? Or just when he votes with the other four?

You said in the OP that you would "have to explain the decision" to your children like it was a bad thing. Do you think it was bad? Who cares what the four did, five did not and they made the decision.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
7. I see.
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 03:32 PM
Jun 2015
You said in the OP that you would "have to explain the decision" to your children like it was a bad thing.
Ah. You're one of those people who doesn't understand indirect humor. Don't feel bad--it's quite common. That's why sitcoms have laugh tracks.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
8. Did you characterize Barack Obama as a "retrograde bigot" in 2008,
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 03:40 PM
Jun 2015

given that he opposed marriage equality back then?



Orrex

(63,216 posts)
9. Golly! Refresh my memory--was it 2015 in 2008?
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 04:50 PM
Jun 2015

I can't view that video, but I presume that he was trying to issue a nationwide binding decision invalidating laws in more than a dozen states, right?

Because otherwise your comparison is foolish and a sad effort to cloud the joy of today's ruling with some kind of bullshit posturing.


Nicely done!

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
10. I give him credit for evolving. Better late than never.
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 04:52 PM
Jun 2015

In any case, in explaining the split to your kids, pointing out that Barack Obama was on Scalia's side until 2012 will give them some interesting perspective.

Freelancer

(2,107 posts)
11. Tell them it's like being in a family ...
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 04:54 PM
Jun 2015

A brother may want to go to the water park tonight. Sister want's to go to the mall. Mom wants to see a movie, and Dad wants to stay home and watch a game on TV. If you're going to spend the evening as family -- like the U.S. is -- then somebody is NOT going to get everything they want -- at least not tonight, anyway.

When the family sits down to decide, the starting point is always what each person wants. Then somebody points out that one of them got their way last night, and the night before, and the night before, (right wing ideas) so now it's only fair that the family do one of the other things. Sometimes, that family member that is used to getting their way doesn't understand, and claims that it isn't fair. They get angry, or pout, or storm off to their room (or the kitchen or the garage). They might even claim that everybody hates them, is out to get them, and they don't want to be part of the family any more -- when they don't really mean it (FOX).

The important thing isn't whether or not somebody gets pissed (Tea Party) -- somebody always gets pissed. What matters is family (U.S.). And the best way to keep a family together is to see that everybody gets their way at least part of the time, but that nobody gets their way all of the time. If they did, they could become spoiled brats (like the right wing members of the Supreme Court).

Not letting a brat get their way is a favor to them and to their family.

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