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marmar

(77,089 posts)
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 11:11 AM Jun 2015

The end of middle management?



(BBC) As the US election season gets underway, American politicians are rolling out their usual lines about creating jobs for the middle class. It’s a terrific sentiment, but if they’re talking about the middle class that used to populate middle-management jobs in offices around the country, I’m sorry to report that that train has left the station.

The sad truth is that middle management is on its way to becoming virtually extinct. While there will always be some people supervising the work of other people, changes in technology, business culture and demographics are all conspiring to upend what has long been standard practice in companies.

We should no longer expect traditional job ladders for managers to move up the ranks, or even retaining the notion that middle managers are the glue that connects workers and ensures goal alignment up and down the hierarchy.

This is different.

Replaced by computers

While lauded, technological advances have already taken their toll on lower-level jobs. Office software, including email, enables executive assistants to take on more work. ATMs replace tellers; Amazon eliminates store clerks; automated toll-free numbers have reduced the need for customer service reps. ...................(more)

http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20150624-the-end-of-middle-management




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Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
5. There are too many people who get their sense of self-worth from their job
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 01:14 PM
Jun 2015

Take their job and it destroys or damages a lot of their psyche.

Our entire culture would have to change radically for that not to be the case any more.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. Easy for you to say, get back with us after you lose your job and are homeless.
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 01:17 PM
Jun 2015

SO eays to talk behind a computer screen.

Destroying jobs is harm...anyone can see that.

Igel

(35,350 posts)
3. They don't harm humans.
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 12:50 PM
Jun 2015

The choice to use these tools or not is entirely up to humans. Screwdrivers are no safer or more dangerous, even though there's no "law" saying screwdrivers should do no harm to humans.

Plus it's the first law of robotics, per Asimov, and not "computers". Computers aren't robots in Asimov's world, all of which (or "whom&quot had some form of AI.

Don't know about robots in R.U.R., haven't read much Capek.

"Harm" is an interesting verb, come to think of it. It can mean "do harm" said of the agent or of a tool. If the former, I can still state the tool using the usual function words: "John harmed Jim with a screwdriver." If I promote the tool to subject, I'm in trouble: "The screwdriver harmed Jim _____ John." I'd have to say something like "in the hands of" or "as used by". But if I passivize it, "Jim was harmed by ________" can end with either "screwdriver" or "John." Just another case where grammatical and semantic roles don't match up, I guess.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
4. Years ago we were told that technology would not hurt workers because someone still had to
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 01:10 PM
Jun 2015

make the machines. We forgot to ask them who that someone would be. Obviously they meant someone overseas.

Went to eat at Applebee's the other day. The waitress welcomed us and asked what we would like to drink. When she brought us the drink she also brought us a small device that we could use to ask for other items and to pay the final bill. Since my daughter is a computer tech she played with it to see how it worked.

From what I could see it helped the waitress in that she did not have to continually run to our booth to ask if we wanted anything else but I also wondered what else it was good for. But by cutting down on her work load I am also sure that they needed less workers. So the nice little box is hurting at least one worker by eliminating their job.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
6. Computers and other modern technology...
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 01:15 PM
Jun 2015

...have caused worker productivity to soar. However, wages have remained flat.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
9. That is not a sad truth at all
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 01:20 PM
Jun 2015

I only wish this were true, it would be a very happy thing. In my experience all this layer of management does is make work for themselves by making non-essential work for everyone else, meetings, time-tracking reports, etc. etc.

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