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cal04

(41,505 posts) Sat Jun 27, 2015, 12:20 PM Jun 2015

Even After Supreme Court Ruling, These States Are Still Resisting Same-Sex Marriage

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/06/27/3674802/states-resisting-same-sex-marriage/

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that marriage equality is a constitutionally protected right on Friday, but some state officials were quick to resist the decision, either by delaying enforcement of the ruling or drafting legislation that would end state agencies’ involvement in issuing marriage licenses.

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Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant (R), House Speaker Philip Gunn (R) and State House Judiciary Chairman Andy Gipson (R) are considering all of their options to prevent same sex marriage licenses from being issued. Gipson suggested the state stop issuing marriage licenses, a path other states are considering taking after the U.S. Supreme Court ruling.

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In Tennessee: Two state legislators, State Rep. Andy Holt (R) and State Rep. Bryan Terry (R), are drafting legislation that would “protect all religious clergy from performing same sex marriages, as well as, providing legal protection from being forced to perform same sex marriages on church property.”

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A Utah lawmaker has drafted legislation that would end the state’s issuance of marriage licenses, according to a Salt Lake City television station, Fox 13, which confirmed the story through another legislator. The sponsor of the legislation and its exact language are unknown because it is “protected legislation” and therefore not yet public knowledge.

Alabama, Louisiana, Tennessee, Utah, and Mississippi

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Even After Supreme Court Ruling, These States Are Still Resisting Same-Sex Marriage (Original Post) cal04 Jun 2015 OP

Boo! shenmue Jun 2015 #1

fuck 'em... dhill926 Jun 2015 #2

They're gasping like fish out of water. MineralMan Jun 2015 #3

It's amazing fun to watch their last gasps though FLPanhandle Jun 2015 #12

Stop issuing marriage license? How is that authoritarian move legal? Desperate religious zealots are out of lies. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #4

How does a moratorium on CIVIL secular marriage licenses fix their religious paranoia? csziggy Jun 2015 #7

Bet the always huge religious and secular marriage business industry is not too happy about this. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #9

Good. Talk about killing their economy. And religious clergy are not the only ones who can kelliekat44 Jun 2015 #5

Eeyup. Judges and justices of the peace have been performing civil marriages hifiguy Jun 2015 #13

Shows what a fantasy world they are living in . . . Ms. Toad Jun 2015 #6

You are correct, sir. Who the fuck is forcing religious zealots to do anything? This addiction to victimization by some Christians... Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #10

And if the states stopped issuing licenses, then NONE Of its citizens, gay or straight pnwmom Jun 2015 #8

Michigan immediately began to issue marriage licenses....SO... roamer65 Jun 2015 #11

shenmue

(38,506 posts)

1. Boo!

Reply to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2015, 12:25 PM

Jun 2015

Stink.

dhill926

(16,353 posts)

2. fuck 'em...

Reply to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2015, 01:17 PM

Jun 2015

MineralMan

(146,325 posts)

3. They're gasping like fish out of water.

Reply to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2015, 01:22 PM

Jun 2015

It's futile, but they don't realize that they're drowning in the air.

It's over, Teabaggers. Done. Finished. You lost. Move on.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)

12. It's amazing fun to watch their last gasps though

Reply to MineralMan (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 27, 2015, 03:28 PM

Jun 2015

I only wish the cameras where on them all, it's a reality show I would finally watch.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

4. Stop issuing marriage license? How is that authoritarian move legal? Desperate religious zealots are out of lies.

Reply to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2015, 01:33 PM

Jun 2015

csziggy

(34,137 posts)

7. How does a moratorium on CIVIL secular marriage licenses fix their religious paranoia?

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #4)

Sat Jun 27, 2015, 01:58 PM

Jun 2015

If their pastors don't want to perform marriages between couples they don't approve no one will force them to do it despite their fears. Preventing couples from forming a legal bond is insane and I agree with you - how is it legal?

Of course, now with the SCOTUS decision they cannot refuse to accept a marriage made in another state - no matter who it involves. So all they are doing is to cost their state money and force their citizens to spend money going to other places to be married.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

9. Bet the always huge religious and secular marriage business industry is not too happy about this.

Reply to csziggy (Reply #7)

Sat Jun 27, 2015, 03:26 PM

Jun 2015

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)

5. Good. Talk about killing their economy. And religious clergy are not the only ones who can

Reply to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2015, 01:37 PM

Jun 2015

perform marriage services.

How far will some people go to just deny rights and benefits to others that they themselves already have?

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)

13. Eeyup. Judges and justices of the peace have been performing civil marriages

Reply to kelliekat44 (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 27, 2015, 03:51 PM

Jun 2015

since Day One.

I clerked for a judge who must have married 30-35 couples in the 20 months I worked for him.

My own parents were married by a judge.

Marriage is covered by CIVIL law and the sad little fundy ministers don't have to marry teh geh folks. As if any self respecting gay couple would want to be married by a fundy dunce.

Ms. Toad

(34,086 posts)

6. Shows what a fantasy world they are living in . . .

Reply to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2015, 01:55 PM

Jun 2015

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In Tennessee: Two state legislators, State Rep. Andy Holt (R) and State Rep. Bryan Terry (R), are drafting legislation that would “protect all religious clergy from performing same sex marriages, as well as, providing legal protection from being forced to perform same sex marriages on church property.”

Right, because members of the clergy are always required to perform any wedding, or when any church was forced to allow its property to be used for a wedding (provided they have not chosen to make it available as publicly available rental property).

I'm pretty sure that the Catholic church (just as an example) would have been up in arms if it had been told that it could not restrict marriage to members of the Catholic faith. As would a synagogue that was told it had to act as a wedding chapel and serve all who showed up, officiant in hand, to get married on their property.

Never happened. Never going to happen.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

10. You are correct, sir. Who the fuck is forcing religious zealots to do anything? This addiction to victimization by some Christians...

Reply to Ms. Toad (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 27, 2015, 03:27 PM

Jun 2015

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)

8. And if the states stopped issuing licenses, then NONE Of its citizens, gay or straight

Reply to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2015, 02:07 PM

Jun 2015

could have access to Social Security and other Federal benefits -- unless they got married out of state.

Well, I guess it's their choice. Kind of like rejecting Medicaid expansion. Really dumb but they are really dumb.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)

11. Michigan immediately began to issue marriage licenses....SO...

Reply to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2015, 03:28 PM

Jun 2015

...all those who wish to get married c'mon up to Michigan!!! We have great places to get married and have a honeymoon!!! Get married on the sunset shores of Lake Michigan, for example.

Even our idiot Guv Snyder was smart enough to say "case closed" and directed all state departments to immediately comply with the ruling.

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