.. and see which hand fills up first."

"The Gospel Singer" Harry Crews

Court ruling means nada. They are going to fight this tooth and nail.

as long as freedom is DEFINED BY THEM

Perhaps 30 days in jail will persuade them...

Close all military bases. They get nothing at all. I live in Texas and would support this.

I see where you're going with that, but it's going to be really hard to close Lackland. It's the only base that does basic training for enlisted and officer Air Force members, not to mention the tech schools on the base.

I think the states have three weeks to get their act together. Some places responded instantly and that was wonderful. And those states/counties that wait out the full window are doing so legally. The SCOTUS still have to issue a 'do it' order.

this is reminiscent of the civil rights era when places like public pools simply closed rather than integrate. Some of them remained closed for decades.

Sickening.

Despicable.

Wrong.

And historical.

I'm kind of tired of that. But living in Texas, you get used to it.

I'm hoping to see the asshat lose his office over this.

That's why I opposed giving them money for their flooding.

it's called the Democratic Party.

Nice. We've seen way too many of you lately. And to think you guys accuse us of still fighting the Civil War.

Wedding days should not be held in front of a blatantly unwilling clerk, whatever the law. The day is too important to let that happen.

Love won, and you want to use the implied threat of violence to get compliance?



>>> The point.

Sailing right over.

Your head. <<<

of that law? Do we say "Oh, that's ok, whenever you get around to evolving on this issue is just fine...we'll wait for you and not try to exercise our rights..."

I don't think that will do anything but encourage more bad behavior. If they want to be held in contempt of a court order to make them obey the law, they can go to jail for their convictions. But to let them effectively cancel out gay citizens rights to marry and to do so under color of the state is just intolerable, IMO.

What are they going to do, put a gun to a court clerk's head? I agree that the ruling makes these clerks legally obligated to issue those licenses, but I really don't see what good the marshals will do.

...and to provide an offsetting force to the local police, not to "force" teachers, principals, etc. to do what was "right".

If the clerks are the ones refusing to issue the licenses, though, what are the marshals going to do to make them?

I'm not arguing with the assertion that the clerks should be legally obligated to issue the licenses. If they refuse, though, I just don't see how the marshals can help. They can't exactly point a gun at the clerks and tell them to sign.

......unless you can cite something in the US Code or an Executive Order that they can be charged with.

We'll drag them into the 21st century kicking & screaming if we have to. But they will obey.

The clerks are only following orders from the higher ups who can fire them after the feds leave. I don't blame them if they don't do it. Go after the governor and attorney general of any state that issues this directive. bring a federal charge against them. Make it hard and make it stick.