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GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 04:23 PM Jun 2015

JOSEPH STIGLITZ: Such punitive targets – I know how I’d vote in the Greece referendum

Such punitive targets – I know how I’d vote in the Greece referendum

The rising crescendo of bickering and acrimony within Europe might seem to outsiders to be the inevitable result of the bitter endgame playing out between Greece and its creditors. In fact, European leaders are finally beginning to reveal the true nature of the continuing debt dispute, and the answer is not pleasant: It is about power and democracy much more than money and economics.

Of course, the economics behind the program that the “troika” (the European Commission, the European Central Bank and the International Monetary Fund) foisted on Greece five years ago has been abysmal, resulting in a 25-per-cent decline in the country’s GDP. I can think of no depression, ever, that has been so deliberate and had such catastrophic consequences: Greece’s rate of youth unemployment, for example, now exceeds 60 per cent.

It is startling that the troika has refused to accept responsibility for any of this or admit how bad its forecasts and models have been. But what is even more surprising is that Europe’s leaders have not even learned. The troika is still demanding that Greece achieve a primary budget surplus (excluding interest payments) of 3.5 per cent of GDP by 2018.

Economists around the world have condemned that target as punitive, because aiming for it will inevitably result in a deeper downturn. Indeed, even if Greece’s debt is restructured beyond anything imaginable, the country will remain in depression if voters there commit to the troika’s target in the snap referendum to be held this weekend.

It is hard to advise Greeks how to vote on July 5. Neither alternative – approval or rejection of the troika’s terms – will be easy, and both carry huge risks. A “Yes” vote would mean depression almost without end. Perhaps a depleted country – one that has sold off all of its assets and whose bright young people have emigrated – might finally get debt forgiveness; perhaps, having shrivelled into a middle-income economy, Greece might finally be able to get assistance from the World Bank. All of this might happen in the next decade, or perhaps the decade after that.

By contrast, a “No” vote would at least open the possibility that Greece, with its strong democratic tradition, might grasp its destiny in its own hands. Greeks might gain the opportunity to shape a future that, though perhaps not as prosperous as the past, is far more hopeful than the unconscionable torture of the present.

I know how I would vote.
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JOSEPH STIGLITZ: Such punitive targets – I know how I’d vote in the Greece referendum (Original Post) GliderGuider Jun 2015 OP
My vote in unity with the Greeks is NO n/t FlatBaroque Jun 2015 #1
More austerity is like putting someone who is starving to death hifiguy Jun 2015 #2
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
2. More austerity is like putting someone who is starving to death
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 05:46 PM
Jun 2015

on a 250-calorie per day diet.

When there is no blood left in the patient, perhaps it is time to remove the leeches, real or metaphorical.

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