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NEW YORK (AP) Now that same-sex marriage is legal nationwide, religious conservatives are focusing on preserving their right to object. Their concerns are for the thousands of faith-based charities, colleges and hospitals that want to hire, fire, serve and set policy according to their religious beliefs, notably that gay relationships are morally wrong.
The Republican Party's 2016 presidential candidates are already campaigning on the issue. And Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker is urging President Barack Obama and the nation's governors "to join me in reassuring millions of Americans that the government will not force them to participate in activities that violate their deeply held religious beliefs."
The religious liberty fight isn't about what happens inside the sanctuary. First Amendment protections for worship and clergy are clear. Potential conflicts could arise, however, over religious organizations with some business in the public arena. That category ranges from small religious associations that rent reception halls to the public, to the nation's massive network of faith-based social service agencies that receive millions of dollars in government grants. Some groups, such as the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, also want protections for individual business owners who consider it immoral to provide benefits for the same-sex spouse of an employee or cater gay weddings.
U.S. Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy raised the issue in the majority opinion Friday granting gays the right to marry. He said First Amendment protections are in place for religious objectors, who "may continue to advocate with utmost, sincere conviction that, by divine precepts, same-sex marriage should not be condoned."
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randys1
(16,286 posts)he was gonna jump out his one story window
This divorced man, HATES that Gay people get to be married now.
Why?
He cant really tell you why, just does.
udbcrzy2
(891 posts)My aunt is freaking out and some of my friends are too. They are all republican Christians. This is very telling of their faith. Several times per day they post memes saying marriage is between a man and woman. Kind of makes me mad, but I dare not say a word about it. I just ignore them and congratulate my friends who can now marry.
randys1
(16,286 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Fucking boggles the mind. Someone needs to get a life, i think.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)And I can't wait
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)So much focus on hate is disturbing to say the least. Oh Dr. Phil, we have a case for you.
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Renew Deal
(81,883 posts)And that is a closely held belief.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)Politicians and corporations know they can't satisfy these conflicting world views, and seem to mostly be calculating in our favor. This is quite clearly terrifying and depressing to the bigots.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Baby Bloomer - Conservatives on the way out. Ya know these assholes will fight to the death against Marriage Equality, Health Care, Women's Rights, Voting Rights, et al.
Renew Deal
(81,883 posts)And that Obama is the first Gen X president? There are many more to come.
AndreaCG
(2,331 posts)Born in 1961. Boomers end in 1964
Cirque du So-What
(25,999 posts)that the oldest baby boomer is 69 years old. You could have written off septuagenarians 150 years ago, but life expectancy has risen considerably in the interim.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)If yes, YOU CANNOT DISCRIMINATE!
If no, fine, be bigots because of your religion like the Taliban and ISIS.
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)Some candidates might use it to energize the base a bit, but it won't go far. No national politician will vigorously defend something that is polling at 40% and will likely be at 35% by the time the election rolls around.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)I cannot remember an issue on which there has been such a rapid and decisive public turnaround.
The reichwingers can run up an alley and yell "FISH!" but the world is passing them by with increasing rapidity.
Initech
(100,108 posts)The Republicans are becoming increasingly irrelevant and boy are they getting desperate. Look at Mike Huckabee's reaction - he's living proof that they couldn't be more out of touch.
SpartanDem
(4,533 posts)While many Republicans were simply pandering, your Huckabee's and Cruz's and the other true believers are not going to give this up. And I would say a significant part of the base want to keep up this fight. This issue is much more tied to religious belief than segregation ever was and if you truly believe that God looks on this as evil you are going to fight it as such. Even if they only changed their platform to being neutral or say it's a state issue, I don't think significant part of their would anything less than full opposition acceptable. Huck and others have already threatened to leave before when there was talk of the RNC softening it position.