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Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:24 PM Jun 2015

Apple Music was made for Gen Z

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Here’s the thing with Generation Z, that up-and-coming generation that makes up 26 percent of the U.S. population with more than $44 billion in disposable income: they really, really hate to wait.

If a Gen Zer wants to hear Omi’s “Cheerleader,” they want to hear it now.

Enter, Apple Music, launched today and billed as “A revolutionary streaming service, live worldwide radio, and an exciting way for fans to connect with artists.”

According to data from Nielsen, music streaming in the U.S. grew 54 percent in 2014, with over 164 billion songs streamed on-demand on platforms like Spotify, Rdio, Rhapsody, Vevo, and YouTube. In a typical week, 67 percent of music consumers listen to their tunes through any form of online streaming.


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Apple Music was made for Gen Z (Original Post) Agschmid Jun 2015 OP
I have no problem with music streaming... brooklynite Jun 2015 #1
Well I mostly am on WIFI now, especially since now XFINITY bootlegs everyone's home routers. Agschmid Jun 2015 #2
You can download an unlimited number of songs down for offline listening. onehandle Jul 2015 #21
Streaming music is the new normal for the market. Dawson Leery Jun 2015 #3
Been listening to Beats 1 on and off since it launched at noon. onehandle Jun 2015 #4
I'm (well *was*) a Pandora guy... Agschmid Jun 2015 #5
It is ironic to me. TM99 Jun 2015 #6
The internet down... LOL Agschmid Jun 2015 #7
Well temporary outages TM99 Jun 2015 #10
I like streaming it helps me discover things I wouldn't normally hear... Agschmid Jun 2015 #11
Yeah, streaming is good for new music. TM99 Jul 2015 #13
Sounds like it would be good music! Agschmid Jul 2015 #14
If you are a fan of TM99 Jul 2015 #16
Good point LittleBlue Jul 2015 #17
Easy to either store for offline play or record whatthehey Jul 2015 #24
But unfortunately what you are describing TM99 Jul 2015 #28
Ain't too worried. Of the 556 composers whose stuff I have whatthehey Jul 2015 #29
Oh, hell, I wasn't judging! TM99 Jul 2015 #44
It's a generational change - and a highly necessary one Blue_Adept Jul 2015 #33
Not all think as you do. TM99 Jul 2015 #43
Since I am Gen X and now an old--do I need to just DL an app or will iOS need to be updated? Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #8
Update iOS to get access... Agschmid Jun 2015 #9
Thank you! Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #12
I have no problem with streaming services. Initech Jul 2015 #15
When we have sources like the following online, why pay for streaming? kentauros Jul 2015 #20
For what it's worth MattBaggins Jul 2015 #18
Those cats though... Agschmid Jul 2015 #19
Exactly correct. They want you to pay and they want to tell you what to listen to. FSogol Jul 2015 #31
Streaming is the future musiclawyer Jul 2015 #22
That's all great, but new artists need to eat too. Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2015 #40
Yeah. I get it musiclawyer Jul 2015 #41
The anxiety for these guys is they know they just wouldn't make it today Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2015 #42
I have not checked it out yet bigwillq Jul 2015 #23
Not on Apple... JCMach1 Jul 2015 #25
This Apple Music is taking some work NightWatcher Jul 2015 #26
Yah the "Connect" feature is cool, I haven't explored the radio stations much yet. Beats1 was good! Agschmid Jul 2015 #27
So funny; they can't afford their college loans or homes when they graduate... but... STREAMING! n/t cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #30
Their on food stamps but look at those shoes. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #34
Yeah, that $10 a month is a real killer Blue_Adept Jul 2015 #35
But really it isn't just $10.00 a month. TM99 Jul 2015 #45
Seriously... Agschmid Jul 2015 #36
I like to irrationally pretend one thing is predicated on a wholly different thing too. LanternWaste Jul 2015 #37
foreshadowing for TV Wolverine23 Jul 2015 #32
The cellular coverage is terrible on my commute Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2015 #38
I use Pandora... sendero Jul 2015 #39

brooklynite

(94,728 posts)
1. I have no problem with music streaming...
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:29 PM
Jun 2015

...but since most users don't have unlimited data plans, what does that do to their iPhone bills?

Personally, I have all 5,257 music tracks loaded on my 128 gb iPhone 6.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
2. Well I mostly am on WIFI now, especially since now XFINITY bootlegs everyone's home routers.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:31 PM
Jun 2015

The only place I use data is in the car, and since I live in Boston that still adds up to about 10 GB's a month worth of streaming music and NPR.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
21. You can download an unlimited number of songs down for offline listening.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 03:53 PM
Jul 2015

Change it up whenever you want. Select from 30+ million tracks.

Feel like deep diving into Bob Dylan. Download it all. Listen for a few days. Delete it. Move on.

The human curated playlists are fantastic. Based on Artists, Genres, Themes, Specific band members, dates, activities, and much more.

Go to an Apple Store and play with it.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
4. Been listening to Beats 1 on and off since it launched at noon.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:39 PM
Jun 2015

Great energy. Reminds me of amazing radio I used to stream from the UK.

Right now listening to the 'Cheap Trick: Deep Cuts' playlist on Apple Music.

Cancelled Spotify.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
5. I'm (well *was*) a Pandora guy...
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:40 PM
Jun 2015

But there is SO much more music available on iTunes that I think I'm here to stay.

Loving the variety and the electronic mixes.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
6. It is ironic to me.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:49 PM
Jun 2015

Streaming to this generation was called the radio in mine! But at least then I didn't have to pay for the streaming. I could record on to a cassette or just go purchase the tape, LP, or then CD which I owned.

You own nothing from a streaming service. It is just a rental. If the internet is down or unavailable, so is your music.

I am not adverse to the addition of streaming but what I see is the coming day of only streaming. It is money in the bank for Apple and the services.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
10. Well temporary outages
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:55 PM
Jun 2015

on a local level do occur. That was more my point.

I use Pandora on occasion. If I am working at my computer and want to preview some new dubstep or French House from Europe, it is a great way to do it.

But I don't own it. No access to the service means no access to the music. And if a song is not put up on the service then I have no access to it. Gatekeepers can make or break an indie artist that way.

So in general, no I am not a big fan of streaming.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
11. I like streaming it helps me discover things I wouldn't normally hear...
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:59 PM
Jun 2015

I then will buy the song and download/own it, trust me Apple is going to make some $$$ off of me this week, sure the trial is free but I've already bought 6 songs tonight!

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
13. Yeah, streaming is good for new music.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:18 AM
Jul 2015

But even iTunes has a poor track record for a lot of music that I only have available on LP, cassette and CD which are out of print.

For example. Tresor is a Berlin Techno club that had a label through out the 1990's and early 2000's. They shut down, and then re-opened recently. In their store, is but a very small selection of the hundreds of LP's and CD's they once had in their catalog. And almost none of it exists on Amazon, iTunes, or GooglePlay music stores and certainly not on streaming services in abundance. But I own the entire back catalog on LP and CD.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
16. If you are a fan of
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:32 AM
Jul 2015

Detroit/Berlin techno, Tresor label musicians and DJ's are IMHO simply the best.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
17. Good point
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:48 AM
Jul 2015

I only started streaming recently, but on a Spotify free account. It's good yet, as you said, you have to pay fees for eternity to keep your music.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
24. Easy to either store for offline play or record
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 06:07 PM
Jul 2015

I generally set up long playlists to record overnight using AudioRecord Wizard then write cue sheets at my leisure to split up the different works. Then it's yours permanently. When I have all I want Spotify gets cancelled.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
29. Ain't too worried. Of the 556 composers whose stuff I have
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:26 PM
Jul 2015

precisely 3 are alive, 2 of them are over 80 in Scandinavia and the other has 1 single CD out of his own stuff, makes his money as a pianist and is doing pretty well. Orchestra members are paid well, and extra, for recording sessions. Doubt I'm stealing much bread from the mouths of the starving artist. And, as any discussion of file sharing never seems to acknowledge, the alternative 99% of the time is not my buying the CD and generating royalties, but simply them having one fewer listener in toto.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
44. Oh, hell, I wasn't judging!
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 09:13 PM
Jul 2015

I started pirating software when I made copies of the original Castle Wolfenstein with Locksmith on the Apple IIe to give to my buddies.

I totally support file sharing especially as you say with composers and authors whose works are out of print or who are dead. That music, literature, etc. deserves to be out there for all to enjoy and learn from.

In many ways, it will be the only way possible for digital works to be passed on to the next generation.

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
33. It's a generational change - and a highly necessary one
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:42 PM
Jul 2015

I'm gen x myself, but I totally get it.

Really, there's SO much content out there, who wants to own something anymore? I used to buy movies, but after awhile I realized why am I spending money on it when I can get most of it on demand? And if there's a day when on demand is no longer available, we likely have bigger issues to deal with.

The radio analogy is decent, but it's faulty. Because that's like driving around in a car with a radio or carrying a boombox. Now it's a lot more personalized radio to tastes, a lot more interactive, and the quality of the stream is definitely better in many areas than radio broadcasts are.

Honestly, at 44, I don't want to own jack shit anymore. I saw my father overwhelmed by the things he owned over the years and now I'm stuck cleaning it out and throwing it away. I'm raising my two kids, both teens, to be very selective about what they own so they don't become tied to stuff. I buy a fair bit of digital music and books, but consider both long term rentals.

None of it's coming with me in the end.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
43. Not all think as you do.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:59 PM
Jul 2015

My grandfather was an antiques dealer. I grew up learning to value those objects of human creation that are worth keeping and passing on.

I can share a book or an LP or CD with my nephew or grand cousins. I can't share anything that I rent or stream.

And while you may believe you are free from the accumulation of 'stuff' you are paying monthly for that privilege. Renting and leasing always cost more than the outright purchase would in the end.

You obviously feel you have money to burn. I, and many others, do not.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
8. Since I am Gen X and now an old--do I need to just DL an app or will iOS need to be updated?
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:51 PM
Jun 2015

I miss the days I could program the VCR for my elders.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
9. Update iOS to get access...
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:54 PM
Jun 2015

You will need to sign up for membership but it's free for three months, you can de-select "auto-renew" in settings until you are sure you'll like it.

Initech

(100,102 posts)
15. I have no problem with streaming services.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:26 AM
Jul 2015

I love Netflix and Hulu, might subscribe to Amazon Prime at some point. However, I really have zero interest in this new service. As a music fan with a rather large CD collection I would rather listen to my own CDs / albums that I have purchased and not have to pay a monthly fee, thanks.

musiclawyer

(2,335 posts)
22. Streaming is the future
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 04:12 PM
Jul 2015

The artist for whom I write and some of my old stuff is online. Pennies per stream. We will never make money unless we tour. That is a given and most every serious musician understands that.
But man, streaming sure opens doors to new music and artists, who are making the best music right now, not tethered to and engaged in a race to the bottom by the big corporate labels. You want big corporate pop and old school stuff owned by the corporations, it's there. But so is a treasure trove of fantastic music by people you have never heard of. That is why I rarely buy records or CDs anymore. And that's ok. If I want to support an artist I go see them. I swear by Spotify premium. But when I upgrade my phone I might go over to Apple and consider switching if the reviews are still good

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
40. That's all great, but new artists need to eat too.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:18 PM
Jul 2015

The musicians I know (some of them very mainstream) have made inconsequentially little from streaming and downloads. They're living off money they made fifteen years ago. That new artist touring little clubs isn't going to make enough to pay for their flights and hotel rooms.

All at once the barriers to entry have never been lower or higher.

musiclawyer

(2,335 posts)
41. Yeah. I get it
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:34 PM
Jul 2015

I don't have a solution. Only a infinitesimally small number of musicians in the last 300 years have made enough money to live comfortably, much less live large. Sad but true. The system is set up to only reward the corporate created artist with riches. And for each one of those there are 100 more talented who will never pay off their credit card. The only hope I see if for the new artist to be good enough to create a following, tour like mad, and "sell" download credits. If you are good enough outside the lowest common denominator scene, you might get a corporate or indie contract. But not everyone can afford to secure all the music they want through paid streaming services. Few under 30 buy tangible CDs or vinyl ....

Jazz musicians do it for love. That's how we all must look at it .....

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
42. The anxiety for these guys is they know they just wouldn't make it today
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:13 PM
Jul 2015

I don't think the music publishers are terribly happy with the new normal either.

Back in 2007-2008 some musicians wanted to bring me into a project to start a new tour promoter that would focus on smaller more adult oriented shows at better venues (concert halls rather than arenas) this went absolutely nowhere, but what I saw in the process was unbelievable to me.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
23. I have not checked it out yet
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 04:41 PM
Jul 2015

although I downloaded the new iOS update that includes Apple Music.

I am still listening to Slacker Radio, which I like.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
26. This Apple Music is taking some work
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:10 PM
Jul 2015

There's tons of stuff available on the free trial.

I'm surfing through it in a stream of conscious, checking out some cool tunes. I'm going to be doing a lot of driving, so I'll def be using this.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
27. Yah the "Connect" feature is cool, I haven't explored the radio stations much yet. Beats1 was good!
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:11 PM
Jul 2015

Same I stream while driving usually.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
45. But really it isn't just $10.00 a month.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 09:16 PM
Jul 2015

First they have the iPhone which will cost them $70.00+ a month. Then there is Apple Music at $10.00. If there are tunes not available on that service then they are paying another $10.00 for Spotify premium. If they want movies and/or TV then they pay more for Netflix, Hulu, or buying it through iTunes.

All of these 'rentals' and streaming fees start adding up really quickly.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
37. I like to irrationally pretend one thing is predicated on a wholly different thing too.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:46 PM
Jul 2015

I like to irrationally pretend one thing is predicated on a wholly different thing too.

Wolverine23

(22 posts)
32. foreshadowing for TV
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:41 PM
Jul 2015

TV will go the way of Apple Music - any episode, any network, any channel on demand. It will take time but that's eventually where everything is heading.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
39. I use Pandora...
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:04 PM
Jul 2015

.. from time to time. But I have an extensive library of mp3/hardcopy music spanning from the 50s to now and I do most of my listening from that.

I'm a boomer. I like technology, make a living from technology, understand technology. But my music tastes include a lot of stuff that I highly doubt will ever be available on any streaming service. It's probably great if most of what you like to listen to is "current".

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