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Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:00 AM Jul 2015

What Happened After These Tech Companies Promised to Hire More Women and People of Color

The Nation ?@thenation
Now We Know What Happened After These Tech Companies Promised to Hire More Women and People of Color http://thenat.in/1JwR5Ps

A year ago, Google was the first tech company to publicly disclose statistics on how diverse its workforce is, which led to a number of tech companies’ following suit. None came out looking very good. But every single one pledged that, in one way or another, they wanted to do better and would start doing better.

Now the preliminary results of their efforts have come in, and all that talk is looking pretty cheap. At Google, the number of women in technical roles rose just 1 percent over the last year, while the share of black and Hispanic people in those jobs didn’t change at all. Facebook released its updated numbers last week, and they are just as grim. The company hired just seven black employees in 2013, the most recent year that it made an Equal Employment Opportunity report public, while it hired 695 white people. Women in tech roles at Facebook lost a percentage point between 2014 and 2015, while things stayed exactly the same for black and Hispanic employees.

Diversity, of course, takes hard work and often requires a profound culture change. It would be tough for a large company to go from being run by nearly all white men to reflecting the variance of the country’s population overnight. And both companies have made changes in the hopes of furthering diversity. Google extended its paid family leave to five months instead of the original three, which decreased its female attrition rate by 50 percent. It has also had staff go through unconscious-bias training and nudged women to nominate themselves more often for promotions. Facebook, meanwhile, launched a “strategic diversity team” and focused on the pipeline by creating programs and investing in others targeted at students and early career people.

Still, though, protestations that these companies are doing their best—that the pipeline of talented people who aren’t white men runs dry, that they just can’t get to the numbers they truly want—ring hollow. “We’re still not where we want to be when it comes to diversity,” Google said of its latest numbers. Yet others have set out to increase diversity and delivered real results...


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snooper2

(30,151 posts)
7. We are looking for some VoIP Engineers, what I see- Male- White/Indian/Asian
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:36 AM
Jul 2015

Those are what recruiters bring in...those are the resumes you see (just based on names)

Company I'm at is pretty damn diverse and for example was offering health benefits to same sex couples since day one. It seems like it is easier to find Female Engineers in the North East for some reason....

marym625

(17,997 posts)
8. I honestly think PART of this is our educational system
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:42 AM
Jul 2015

It's almost impossible to afford a good education. The loans are daunting. We don't prepare kids for school then we make it almost unattainable. So if you are a woman or a minority, or in a rural area, an engineering degree can seem like a dream.

That doesn't excuse these companies. There are women and minorities out there that would love these jobs. Older people especially. But more often than not, the target advertising and the HR people don't go to those areas when advertising or recruiting

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
10. The problem is people are convinced you need a 4 year degree when you don't
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:53 AM
Jul 2015

I did two years of telecom at a community college and jumped right into the field-

They don't offer the same class anymore but they are out there-

Here is one that would get you in the door at my company for various positions- Same College I went to 20 years ago

http://www.jeffco.edu/academics/programsdepartments/computer-information-systems#.VZQMNRtVhBc

 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
2. women blacks and hispanics don't come in on an H-1b visa, and therefor
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:05 AM
Jul 2015

cannot be indentured

simple as that

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
6. You need more women and minorities in college getting computer degrees first
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:36 AM
Jul 2015

I'm in college right now and my Computer Science classes are at least 90% male and most minorities are foreigners.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
11. Agreed.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:13 PM
Jul 2015

From a faculty standpoint, I see few women and fewer POC in those programs. The "why" behind that is another story, but we don't graduate many female or minority CS majors.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
13. STEM outreach has to start in elementary school
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:22 PM
Jul 2015

Where I work there's a lot of volunteer opportunities at elementary schools to get kids excited about engineering. You have to get to the girls before the "girls aren't good at math" crap starts.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
14. I worked in the field before getting a degree
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:27 PM
Jul 2015

I was at IBM for over a decade, before deciding to pursue a BSc and my MSc...
 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
17. Similar
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:40 PM
Jul 2015

I started working towards a computer science degree this year (with the goal of software engineering. Social services is solid work, but the pay is no good if I want to stay in the Bay Area).

Anyway, my classes are mostly white and asian men.

A friend is taking one of those Java "bootcamps" that are becoming popular. Again, mostly asian and white males. (Although, these bootcamps can run upwards of $15k to attend, so there's definitely a bias there).

ProfessorGAC

(65,168 posts)
9. Well, They Didn't Mean HERE, in the US!
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:48 AM
Jul 2015

"Can't find the numbers" is a lame excuse. And, if they're not doing all they're hiring in their home country, then of course it's going to be hard to open enough positions to fulfill their promises.

Convenient, huh?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
15. My experience of tech companies is, if you can write good code, they really don't give a shit
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:32 PM
Jul 2015

if you are black, white, brown, orange, purple, anything.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
16. Don't see the word "Asian" anywhere in that article
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:38 PM
Jul 2015

Which is interesting when discussing racial demographics in tech.

But, yes, these companies can and should do better.

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