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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAre people over-reacting to the old Confederate flag?
I mean, pulling "Dukes Of Hazzard" shows because of the flag painting on a car's roof?
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/tv-land-pulls-dukes-hazzard-reruns/story?id=32152437
(Besides, I was more interested in Daisy Duke anyway...)
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)these decisions and there is no banning called for by government officials, I simply don't give a shit.
Iggo
(47,565 posts)It's all happening at once, so it looks like it's huge. But really it's just people saying "Nope. That's it. Done with this fucking thing."
Long overdue.
get the red out
(13,468 posts)That when you have this flag being used in more and more nefarious ways throughout the two terms of the first African American President, the RW news media all but screaming for the "south to rise again", white supremacist groups calling for a race war, a massacre by a white supremacist followed by the burning of black churches throughout the south; it is just about the perfect time for the business and entertainment sectors to take that flag out of sight. People keep using the word ban, which it isn't, but choosing not to portray or sell it is probably a good move by various industries.
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)Once Clinton was elected the whole anti gov't thing - the rhetoric kept getting more heated...until one of their less stable followers blew up the federal bldg. That sort of caused Newt and all the GOP talking heads to dial it back some....
Another time...another dem elected. This time a black one. Honest to God I thought we were actually heading to another civil war with the Bundy thing and all the racisim, and I agree the confederate flag began to take on it's old meaning more than even 20 years ago. Hopefully this whole reaction will walk us back from the brink once more.
I just wish the GOP would #1 stop acting like it's the end of the republic every time a dem gets elected and #2 stop advocating guns and military force as the solution to any problem. They seem to be unaware how their rhetoric affects the weak minded.
randys1
(16,286 posts)But there will be casualties.
I would ask the AfAm community, if they say leave the show on the air, so be it, but if they say nay, nay
lame54
(35,321 posts)they've inflicted enough pain
frankly_fedup2
(2,852 posts)Here you will be labeled racist when you bring this subject up.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)While I believe the Confederate flag has no business flying on US public lands some of this is starting to look like a panicked mob mentality.
The brand is poison right now and that's why so many *corporate citizens* are dropping it like a hot potato.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Seriously this has been buzzing around in my head for days now and that is the only answer I can come up with.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)His site: http://www.southernheritage411.com/
H. K. Edgerton is an African-American activist for Southern heritage and an African-American member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans. He often is given a prominent place at rallies for the Confederate flag.
A former president of the Asheville, North Carolina chapter of the NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People), he is on the board of the Southern Legal Resource Center.
Rex
(65,616 posts)'Heritage' means many things to many people. All I can come up with.
unblock
(52,317 posts)luvspeas
(1,883 posts)The use of that flag was controversial in 1979. Lots of people were against it. The flag should never have been used in the first place. Whining about it is total corporate bullshit.
Just because the internets weren't around then doesn't mean that there weren't people who disagreed.
Orrex
(63,224 posts)Is a scene in which "city folk" mock the Duke boys as racists for driving with such a display.
The story sets it up that another character paints/decorates the car without their consent, and they actually wind up covering the flag out of embarrassment.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)PufPuf23
(8,836 posts)I never have never watched Dukes of Hazard though of appropriate age (62).
Too bad for the DOH legacy but now have earned the blowback.
The confederate flag to me has always been a ready self-ID of "asshole present".
Now it will be a label for "I am really an asshole and an asshat too" .
The wonderful women that took down the flag at the statehouse in SC will be part of a historic photographic icon.
I like how GOP like Romney and Haley have had to state the long obvious.
No.
lame54
(35,321 posts)Never in the history of the world, as far as I know, has the losing side been allowed to fly it's
flag after being defeated. Especially, when that flag offends the WINNERS - many whose
ancestors were slaves - and all blacks because of what it symbolizes.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)still sacred to HIndu's. It was coopted by nazi's and now it is justifiably reviled.
The Confederate Battle Flag, having been adopted by racists, is justifiably reviled.
No, it isn't an over racton. It's use as an amusing symbol of a beloved show is over.
The over-reacting hysteria has called more attention to that symbol than anyone ever gave it before. Kinda pulled it from the 1 millionth down on peoples 'look here' list to putting it in the limelight. If it had of stayed as the flag should not fly at Government establishments like crosses shouldn't be displayerd and such it wouldn't have been such a flashpoint. Now it morphed into wanting to dynamite mountain carved memorials, grave desecration, removing soldiers buried 150 years, editing movies, print and pictures in the best Orwellian manner.
luvspeas
(1,883 posts)I've always hated the thing and I am so glad that the pendulum is finally swinging my way for a change.
I, for one do not see it as "over-reacting hysteria"
Your fantasy about "wanting to dynamite mountain carved memorials, grave desecration, removing soldiers buried 150 years, editing movies, print and pictures" is your own personal 'over-reacting hysteria in my opinion.
While we are on the subject-do you know the origins of the word hysteria? -
For at least two thousand years of European history until the late nineteenth century hysteria referred to a medical condition thought to be particular to women and caused by disturbances of the uterus. By the mid to late 19th century, hysteria (or sometimes female hysteria) came to refer to what is today generally considered to be sexual dysfunction. Typical treatment was massage of the patient's genitalia by the physician and, later, by vibrators or water sprays to cause orgasm.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)You seem to sense an emotional apocalypse in little more than a market reacting to its customer base. Possibly your own Orwellian melodrama is the over-reaction...
Archae
(46,345 posts)Mariana
(14,860 posts)but TV networks and stations aren't required to put on the shows you want to see. It doesn't matter if you think their reasons for pulling it are stupid. Fortunately, nowadays you can buy recordings of your favourite programs, and you'll never have to worry that some executive will decide to yank them.
Most likely, the management, and perhaps the advertisers too, received a whole slew of phone calls and letters from people who asked them to take this particular show off the schedule, while they heard nothing from people like you who wish for it to remain on the air.
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)fredamae
(4,458 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)by overzealous knee jerk reactionaries.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I am cool with them pulling DOH, but I would also be cool with them keeping the reruns in their playlist. It's their station, their choice.
I am strongly against the C-Fed Flag being flown on/near government buildings.
I feel individuals should be able to choose to fly the flag or not on their private property.
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)The show was full of technical flaws which seemed to be partly a result of making things up as it went along. What exactly were the terms of probation for Luke and Bo, for example, and Uncle Jesse, for that matter? And where were Luke, Bo, and Daisy's parents, with Uncle Jesse in the role of family patriarch? Also, the whole "sexy cousin" thing was just a bit creepy, imo.
However, getting rid of the flag is one thing, but getting rid of
the mindset is another -- hence the burning of the churches.