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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDonald Trump: Only rich people should be allowed to play golf (Not the Onion)
If people had any doubts before this should seal it for them....
http://www.nj.com/golf/index.ssf/2015/07/donald_trump_says_only_rich_pe.html
"I think I'm in a minority, but I feel differently about golf. I feel golf should be an aspirational game, something people aspire to. People should come to golf, golf shouldn't come to them." ...
"Golf should be something beautiful, elegant, something people aspire to play eventually." ...
"It may be elitist, and perhaps that's what golf needs. Let golf be elitist. When I say 'aspire,' that's a positive word. Let people work hard and aspire to some day be able to play golf. To afford to play it. They're trying to teach golf to people who will never be able to really play it. They're trying too hard. Because of the expense of playing, and the land needed, golf is never going to be basketball, where all you need is a court.
"All these great athletes, you know what they do when they retire? They do nothing but play golf. Basketball players, hockey players, football players, all they want to do is golf.
"Let it be aspirational instead of bringing it down by trying to get players to do it when they're 15 years old and they're also learning other sports. I think it's very damaging to the game."
randys1
(16,286 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Imagine him going talking to Congresspeople about some social spending program, for example:
"Dear subordinates: My spending program for the peons will help them aspire to become golfers, even though most of them will never even come close to an exclusive country club. Except perhaps as bus boys and dishwashers."
merrily
(45,251 posts)"merrily, are you really willing to put the country at that kind of risk, just because you think Trump will be easier to beat?"
The beauty part of being a poster instead of an IRL kingmaker (and there aren't many beauty parts to being a poster instead of an IRL kingmaker) is that I don't have to make that decision. My post is not country to put the country in danger. So, I decided to leave it as it was.
McCain, on the other hand......
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Gman
(24,780 posts)underpants
(182,803 posts)-Al Czervik
Human101948
(3,457 posts)just tell them it's a golf outing with celebrities and they'll round themselves up.
maveric
(16,445 posts)He has a bit on golf.
Wolverine23
(22 posts)Interesting to see how this new PC world we live in affects his life moving forward. Like watching a slow motion train wreck.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)"Make sure your brain is engaged before you put your mouth in gear." You ever hear that one, Donny?
Seriously, he's half right. Golf should only be played where grass grows without irrigation, and that rules out California, Arizona, etc. This would make it a rich person pastime, since people would have to fly from Los Angeles to Atlanta for a few holes of golf. This drought stuff is serious, my fellow citizens. If you live in Cali and like to golf, better move to Indiana or get a new hobby.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)His courses and design scheme look tacky, much like everything he puts his name to.
He even pushed around Scottish courses that had their own history, and character to put more of his generic Trump Golf courses.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Trump Scotland is a good course, not North Berwick or The Old Course, but what is?
The members of his private courses like them.
Beside the Monster I will never play a Trump course. I mean in Scotland you are spouled for choice. And Dunbeg? There is a reason why I never played it before. That reason is Lahinch.
On balance, Trump is good for golf. He pays his employees a good wage, better than most in the game. No architect has complained about working with him, in public or on background.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I sided with the land owners, and others who were concerned about the environmental and country-wide impact of his style courses.
Reading your post, does not really change where I side in the issue, but does mitigate a little bit, my feeling of disdain towards Trump and his courses... Just a wee bit.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)He built a true links course, of which there are few in the world. Anybody but Trump building it there would be few problems. If Mike Kaiser was building it they would throw him a party.
Trumps first few courses are not good. Artificial waterfalls, over the top grooming, flowerbeds etc. His last few really embrace the modern aesthetic of more natural golf.
Tom Doak gave Trump scotland a 7. That is a good number.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Only time I was ever golfing was when the 1%er ex-boss decided to take the folks in the office out to play a round when he was looking in to selling a computer system to the golf course. Rented equipment and greens fees were outrageous.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)The average round is probably 3 - 4 hours, depending on the course and how busy it is. If you think about it, $50 is pretty cheap for a half day in the great outdoors. Comparable to or less than what you will spend per person at a major league baseball game, for example. And there are many options for cutting the cost a lot more - down to about $15 dollars for nine holes on a week night, for example. Also many courses have senior and junior discounts which will keep the cost to under $30 for 18 holes walking.
As for equipment it is quite possible to pick up a good used set of clubs for under $100. Or borrow a set from somebody - a lot of golfers have a spare set which they have upgraded from. Starting out, it is not the equipment which matters, it is the form. You really don't need anything else. You can wear regular athletic shoes, and gloves are cheap if you think you need them.
Not a poor man's game but certainly not only a rich man's game either.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Backpacking in Tok Alaska is the Great Outdoors. Golf, notsomuch.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)I love visiting the big cities, but I can only take so much concrete and steel.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)tavernier
(12,388 posts)Since his hat tossing, he has completely flummoxed the repub party and the msm!! Try as they might to focus attention on HRC's emails and her other "dastardly deeds", he has totally sucked the air out of the room!
And then today the news came out that he had donated more to her past campaigns than to anyone else, and that cinched it for me.
The Donald is Hillary's secret weapon!!
Now to just figure out... WHY??
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)And he's only too happy to give the privileged class what they clamor for.
Gman
(24,780 posts)On the golf course that played horribly
hlthe2b
(102,276 posts)and those aging few under the white robes...
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Golf is great exercise if one can afford the greens fee.
underpants
(182,803 posts)Like all the courses (and the people who work there), and the golf stores, and the equipment manufacturers, and the networks, and the people like me who love playing the game?
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)the house is paid off in 2 years, so I might just celebrate and buy some lessons.
SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)kids to the game regardless of their socio-economic background.
The sport has been slowly dying for years, primarily as the result of some ridiculously elitist attitudes which he totally exemplifies.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Just like he thinks he is a world authority on tourism, etc.
All because he daddy left him enough money to invest in hotels, golf courses, etc. Most of which he promptly lost, by the way, and then some. He has managed to survive as a businessman thanks to gullible investors who are taken in by the Trump name.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)sounds like it to me, too.
Oneironaut
(5,495 posts)Seriously - this is Olympic-grade trolling.
HFRN
(1,469 posts)i think at heart, he is an internet troll on a grand scale
Rex
(65,616 posts)Did Fuckwad mean sport?
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Dunno.
AwakeAtLast
(14,125 posts)"Elitist" was a dirty word in 2012. The GOP threw that at Obama with many a sneer. Now it's OK?
Aarrggh, do I hate these people!
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)That's how the people I know play golf.
spanone
(135,832 posts)tanyev
(42,558 posts)but nobody put me in charge.
Initech
(100,076 posts)I support this idea!
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)you know it's going to be terrible, but you just cannot look away.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)or throw the ball. . .
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Not that I care about golf, because I don't.
Stupidity is now going to be officially measured in Trump Units, i.e., Jeb Bush only hits300 kiloTrumpa, but Santorum, he's good for a megaTrump.
JanMichael
(24,887 posts)nilesobek
(1,423 posts)paycheck against what Trump makes it two weeks in a golf match against him. Poor guy vs. rich guy.
(I worked at a golf course in my youth and pretty much have a scratch game.)
DawgHouse
(4,019 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)What a surprise.
Botany
(70,504 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)'Chinga tu Pelo'
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)I get it. I enjoy games and gaming. I mean, I have played many versions of "put the ball in the hole" but none off them have brought me the total satisfaction and oneness with the universe they seem to instill in others.
Maybe I am just obtuse? I do love playing games. Dodge ball, Baseball, Kick the Can, Chess, Tennis, Asteroids, Scrabble, Basketball, Ultimate Frisbee, Snooker, Freeze Tag. It's fun to play games. Hellish to watch mind you, but fun to play.
For others, it is life itself. Heck, our highest paid College and University educators in each state are game teachers so they take it quite seriously.
Don't know. I'll just keep waiting. Maybe I'll get the bug.
blogslut
(38,000 posts)I mean, was his father so vulgar that the mucky mucks wouldn't let the family join their social circle or something? Why is this second-generation rick kid act like such a nouveau riche climber? Why does Donald Trump feel so insecure about whether or not he appears to be wealthy?
B Calm
(28,762 posts)they are rich.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)'golf should be only played by rich white men'