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geardaddy

(24,931 posts)
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:46 PM Jul 2015

Hawaii Lawmaker Who Smashed Homeless People's Shopping Carts Beaten Up By Group Of Homeless: Report

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/30/tom-brower-beaten-hawaii_n_7698086.html

HONOLULU -- A Hawaii state representative was allegedly beaten by several members of a Honolulu homeless encampment on Monday after he refused to stop videotaping them, according to Hawaii News Now.

Rep. Tom Brower (D), who made national headlines in 2013 after smashing homeless people's shopping carts with a sledgehammer, was reportedly punched in the head several times and taken to Queens Medical Center in serious condition, where he was treated for a concussion and eye injuries.

He was later released, according to the AP.

Isaiah Totoa, 17, who was involved in the altercation, told Hawaii News Now that he and a friend were angry after Brower refused to stop filming them.

"How would you feel if I walked in your house and just started recording you, right? We live here, this our house, respect it," Totoa told Hawaii News Now. "We don't choose to live like this. If I had a choice to go to a house right now and live in that house... trust and believe, I would be in my house. I wouldn't be living underneath one tent."


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Hawaii Lawmaker Who Smashed Homeless People's Shopping Carts Beaten Up By Group Of Homeless: Report (Original Post) geardaddy Jul 2015 OP
Why is a Dem acting like this? randys1 Jul 2015 #1
That was my first though. geardaddy Jul 2015 #5
Hawai'i is full of DINOs KamaAina Jul 2015 #7
Why is it like that in Hawaii? That is sad, why dont I know this already, embarrassed randys1 Jul 2015 #10
In the territorial era, it was solidly repuke KamaAina Jul 2015 #12
The odd thing is, Waikiki, which Brower represents, is one of the few areas where this doesn't hold KamaAina Jul 2015 #16
Tom, meet Karma. KamaAina Jul 2015 #2
It really just hurts to read that. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #3
Brower could be charged with a crime HassleCat Jul 2015 #4
He smashed the carts in 2013. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #6
What's the statute of limitations on cart-smashing? KamaAina Jul 2015 #8
Precisely Sherman A1 Jul 2015 #9
Probably not the reaction he was hoping for n2doc Jul 2015 #11
Best homeless shelter in the US, Tulsa OK. vinny9698 Jul 2015 #13
What is wrong with this creep? Arugula Latte Jul 2015 #14
Brower seems to be mentally ill GreatGazoo Jul 2015 #15
That's a sad story all the way around. Solly Mack Jul 2015 #17
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
7. Hawai'i is full of DINOs
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 01:04 PM
Jul 2015

It's very difficult to get elected with an (R) after your name (at one point, the repukes were down to one senator out of 25! ), so people who would be moderate repukes on the mainland try to pass. Sometimes not so moderate: Rep. Tulsi Gabbard's dad Mike, a notorious homophobe, switched from R to D a few years ago. The Dems actually had to caucus to decide if they wanted him!

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
12. In the territorial era, it was solidly repuke
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 01:08 PM
Jul 2015

and dominated by haoles (Caucasians). After WWII, many of the Japanese-American vets of the famed 442nd Division started running for office, including a disabled vet named Daniel Inouye, and in 1954, they captured control of the Legislature. To this day, most non-haoles vote Dem. Conversely, some haoles who migrate in drift repuke; one actually said, to the media, that s/he "didn't feel welcome" in the local Dem party!

edit: The result is that, as in many major cities, the election that matters is the Dem primary. Most recently, we saw this when Gov. David Ige toppled the incumbent Neil Abercrombie in the primary. Apparently Abercrombie had ticked off too many of the powers that be. Another huge factor is labor, which still has power out there (everything on store shelves being shipped in, you see ) and can really get out the vote in a primary.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
16. The odd thing is, Waikiki, which Brower represents, is one of the few areas where this doesn't hold
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:49 PM
Jul 2015

due to the large population of mainland haole retirees.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
4. Brower could be charged with a crime
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:50 PM
Jul 2015

Those shopping carts are not his personal property. Some of them belong to the homeless people, and some of them belong to the grocery stores. Either way, they are not Brower's to smash.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
11. Probably not the reaction he was hoping for
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 01:05 PM
Jul 2015

But you poke people with a stick and you might get poked back, so to speak. He's lucky no one stabbed him.

vinny9698

(1,016 posts)
13. Best homeless shelter in the US, Tulsa OK.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:24 PM
Jul 2015

Tulsa, OK, has one of the best homeless shelters in the US. The city leased a building across the street from the Salvation Army. The homeless eat, shower, and sleep at the "Sally". They then cross the street, where the city provides lockers, day room with TV, day laborer services, washers and dryers, mental health clinic.
I know this because I worked for the Salvation Army and talked to a homeless older man. He claimed to have travel around the country and had been to over 45 shelters.
In Montana there is a homeless shelter who feeds them deer, elk, and other wildlife. The meat is donated to them by hunters who only want to mount the heads. The state troopers also pick up road kill during the winter months and deliver the road kill to the shelter.
San Diego has a homeless shelter that was build on an old Navy site. Contaminated, so no one wanted to buy the property, it was donated to the Salvation Army which then got permission to build the shelter. There are signs posted that warn people of the contamination when entering the building.
Tales told to me by a Marine Viet Nam veteran and homeless for most of his life. He drove a car but the jobs he had he never had enough money to rent. So he chose to live at homeless shelters. He was a heavy smoker.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
14. What is wrong with this creep?
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:38 PM
Jul 2015

How bizarre to spend your time making life even harder for homeless people. What the hell?

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
15. Brower seems to be mentally ill
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:45 PM
Jul 2015
"If someone is sleeping at night on the bus stop, I don't do anything," he told the Star-Advertiser. "But if they are sleeping during the day, I'll walk up and say, 'Get your ass moving.'"


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/18/tom-brower-hawaii_n_4299256.html

One of his parents was a police sergeant and the other a school teacher so perhaps this guy had a whole lot of control-freak stuff at home that he now directs outward at anyone he perceives to be vulnerable and unable to defend themselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Brower

Two NYC maxims come to mind: 1) Energy attracts like energy, and 2) If you argue with crazy you will be perceived as crazy.
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