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They would have been "God, King and Country" Loyalists.
They have always opposed everything this country represents.
MiniMe
(21,719 posts)Repubs don't like taxes
Marr
(20,317 posts)If they really cared about that, they'd know their taxes have gone down over the last eight years. Instead, polls have shown that Republican voters believe their taxes have gone way, way up.
I've no doubt their party leadership and the business establishment cared very deeply about taxes, but the rank and file? Not really.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)Rather than to go against their "King"?
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)Quebec is more French than France .
daleo
(21,317 posts)Arguably, more so.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)kentuck
(111,110 posts)They have not changed very much since the Revolution actually, in that regard.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)kentuck
(111,110 posts)orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)The British?
Um, no.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Bless your heart.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)they make their government accountable , or a hell of a lot more than us .
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)which is the power base of the Repubs
luckily, they didn't enter the war on their behalf directly
http://www.military-history.org/blog/it-was-british-arms-that-sustained-the-confederacy-during-the-american-civil-war-peter-tsouras.htm
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)especially the ones who claim the US Constitution is not to be payed any attention to when it gets in the way of your agenda as did the whole Bush administration on the advice of then AG Alberto Gonzalez when he attacked Habeas Corpus in the Constitution:
http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Gonzales-says-the-Constitution-doesn-t-guarantee-2622014.php
kentuck
(111,110 posts)It's so difficult to find anymore.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts).....
In June of 1772, the British courts issued judgement in what is called the Somerset Case. The case involved a runaway slave, James Somerset, who was the property of Charles Stewart, a customs officer from Boston, Massachusetts. Stewart and Somerset came to England from America in 1769. During his time in England, Somerset was exposed to the free black community there, and was inspired to escape his master in late 1771.
Somersets escape was not successful; he was caught, and was to be sent (for sale?) to the British colony of Jamaica. However, Somerset was defended and supported by abolitionists who went to court on his behalf, and prevented his being shipped to Jamaica. As noted in Wikipedia, The lawyers on behalf of Somerset argued that while colonial laws might permit slavery, neither the common law of England nor any law made by Parliament recognized the existence of slavery, and slavery was therefore illegal.
......
The book goes on to tell how major decisions made by the Americans-such as the agreement to break from British rule, the wording of the Declaration of Independence, and the formulation of the Articles of Confederation and the Constitution-were all done in a manner that protected the right of the South to maintain slavery. For example: in early drafts of the Declaration of Independence, the language that said All men are born equally free and independent was changed by Thomas Jefferson to All men were created equal to prevent the implication that slaves should be free.
In the end, though, the Revolutionary War did not prevent the conflict over slavery from coming to a head; it merely delayed it.
https://allotherpersons.wordpress.com/2009/06/08/did-slavery-cause-of-the-revolutionary-war-yes-book-review-of-slave-nation/
Would the Republicans really want to fight to stay subservient to another country which had already abolished slavery?
mwb970
(11,367 posts)If this were the Civil War, they would be the Confederacy. The conservative tradition of being on the wrong side of every issue and working at cross-purposes to America at every opportunity goes back a long, long way, back to before the country was even founded!
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Let's re-fight yet another war.
meow2u3
(24,774 posts)...let's finish'em off. Confederates/conservatives, that is.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)Who has the most guns? And who has the armies?
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)The 1% and their toadies in the colonies (ie republican types) were not happy with the way they were treated by the King. They were big shots at home and pipsqueaks in the mother country. They were treated with disdain by England.
Taxes was certainly one issue that would have kept republican types in the patriots camp. Slavery, as mentioned by someone else, would have as well. The allure of being top dogs in a new nation had to have tremendous appeal as well. Religiously, there wasn't much of a fanatical religious component that would have kept them in the God, King, Tory group.
I view John Adams as a republican. But he sided with the patriots for some of the reasons mentioned.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Last edited Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:18 PM - Edit history (1)
It was about loyalty to an entire system based upon the idea that a single, unelected person was granted the power to rule by God. To go against him was to go against God. Loyalty to him earned you points in Heaven. His representatives, including his governors, judges and even his Redcoats were exercising divine justice and all who opposed them were not only guilty of treason but blasphemy
Also, anyone who squealed on the Patriots was handsomely rewarded.
appalachiablue
(41,177 posts)for other reasons, not w/o some justification. I don't let it bother me and know that some Brits also feel the same about Aussies, Frogs, Asians, Africans or anyone not Anglo. Ugly stuff, racism and otherism. ~ Agree that becoming top dogs and major landowners in America was a huge motivation for the patriots. Nowhere else in the old country or world could they have risen so high because of the ancient class systems.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)but Quebec was put strictly off-limits as the British wanted to keep Quebec relatively intact and not face a rebellion from their new subjects.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)csziggy
(34,138 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Glad they got drowned out before Common Sense was lost to time.