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Happy birthday to Malia Obama (Original Post) bluestateguy Jul 2015 OP
Oh! SoapBox Jul 2015 #1
Happy Birthday Malia! SunSeeker Jul 2015 #2
that's right.. mahalo! Happy Birthday, Malia Obama! Cha Jul 2015 #3
I wonder what she'll get from Biden. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #4
OMG - she'll be old enough to vote in November 2016! calimary Jul 2015 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #6
Happy Birthday to a wonderful First Daughter! N/T nirvana555 Jul 2015 #7
And also old enough to drive, marry, and buy a gun, but not to buy alcohol. Donald Ian Rankin Jul 2015 #8
Nope. The age was 18 for a while when I was young, but because young drivers are tblue37 Jul 2015 #9
Alcohol kills a shitload of people. joshcryer Jul 2015 #11
Damn. Time flies. joshcryer Jul 2015 #10
Wow - seventeen malaise Jul 2015 #12

Cha

(297,723 posts)
3. that's right.. mahalo! Happy Birthday, Malia Obama!
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 01:52 AM
Jul 2015


http://theobamadiary.com/2015/07/04/fourth-of-july-at-the-white-house/



President Obama
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It doesn't get much better than celebrating America with the people you love. Happy Fourth of July, everyone!
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http://theobamadiary.com/2015/07/04/fourth-of-july-at-the-white-house/

Response to bluestateguy (Original post)

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
8. And also old enough to drive, marry, and buy a gun, but not to buy alcohol.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 04:59 AM
Jul 2015

This aspect of US law has always puzzled me slightly.

"Yes, we think you are now old and responsible enough to be entrusted with the governance of the country, several tons of metal travelling at 65 miles an hour, your own body and future, and lethal weapons. But no intoxicants".

Is it a holdover from the prohibition era?

tblue37

(65,490 posts)
9. Nope. The age was 18 for a while when I was young, but because young drivers are
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 05:33 AM
Jul 2015

were involved in serious alcohol-related traffic accidents at an above average rate, the federal government threatened to withhold highway funds from any state that didn't raise the drinking age to 21, so of course all states complied.

Since the prefrontal cortex, and thus the brain's "executive function," doesn't fully develop until around age 25, it is true that young people are more impulsive, less able to consider the longterm consequences of their behavior, etc. Nut ironically, it isn't the 18-21 year olds who do the most drunk driving.

Another deadly demographic, a group with a higher than average tendency to drink and drive and thus get into accidents, including fatal accidents, would be men between the ages of 25 and 45, but since they are the ones who make the laws, they would not deprive themselves of the right to have a drink. The reason they do that to 18-21 year olds, even though 18-21 year olds are in every other way legal adults, is because they can.

Politicians know perfectly well that people in the 18-21 age group are not going to band together into an effective voting bloc that will kick them out of office over the drinking age.



http://www.madd.org/statistics/

From the MADD website:

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MALES WERE MORE LIKELY THAN FEMALES (15.1 VS. 7.9 PERCENT) TO DRIVE DRUNK.

THE RATE OF DRUNK DRIVING IS HIGHEST AMONG 21 TO 25 YEAR OLDS (23.4 PERCENT).

(Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. “Results from the 2010 National Survey on Drug Use and Health: Summary of National Findings.” September 2011.)

IN FATAL CRASHES IN 2011, THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF DRUNK DRIVERS WAS FOR DRIVERS AGES 21 TO 24 (32 PERCENT), FOLLOWED BY AGES 25 TO 34 (30 PERCENT) AND 35 TO 44 (24 PERCENT)

<emphasis added>

<SNIP>

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
11. Alcohol kills a shitload of people.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 06:47 AM
Jul 2015

I'd be for moving the voting age to 16 in exchange for moving the smoking age to 21... I'm dead serious. (That includes e-cigs.)

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