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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 05:48 PM Jul 2015

Every presidential election since 1856








Theft of Native Americans' land

This map looks at the conquest of North America from the other perspective: that of the people being forced off of their land. It begins by showing Native Americans' land in 1794, demarcated by tribe and marked in green. In 1795, the US and Spain signed the Treaty of San Lorenzo, carving up much of the continent between them. What followed was a century of catastrophes for Native Americans as their land was taken piece by piece. By the time the US passed the Dawes Act in 1887, effectively abolishing tribal self-governance and forcing assimilation, there was very little left.








70 maps that explain America
by Max Fisher and Dylan Matthews on July 1, 2015
The United States of America is many things. It is the world's most powerful country, and one of the largest. It has a history of political revolution and social progress, as well as a legacy of slavery and genocide. In one sense, mapping the United States should be a simple matter of displaying borders and geography. But America is a complex nation with a long and fascinating history that could never be captured in a single frame. Here's a glance at America's past and present, in 70 maps.
http://www.vox.com/2015/2/17/7917165/maps-that-explain-america
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Every presidential election since 1856 (Original Post) octoberlib Jul 2015 OP
K&R for maps! nt Mnemosyne Jul 2015 #1
The second map makes sense. 1970andy Jul 2015 #2
Theft? NobodyHere Jul 2015 #3
OMG! PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #4
That's how history works NobodyHere Jul 2015 #6
No, you're not. BKH70041 Jul 2015 #11
Enjoy your stay! YoungDemCA Jul 2015 #7
what a progressive post. Duppers Jul 2015 #8
Is it factually wrong? NobodyHere Jul 2015 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Jul 2015 #9
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #5
Good to see you back, UncleJoe! octoberlib Jul 2015 #10
Thanks, octoberlib, it's good to see you as well. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #12
I just spent an hour LWolf Jul 2015 #14
 

1970andy

(16 posts)
2. The second map makes sense.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 08:06 PM
Jul 2015

The first map can't be paused, so it is not helpful. But yeah, A lot of America was built by stealing Indian land and the free labor of slaves. Not to mention immigrants.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
3. Theft?
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 11:43 PM
Jul 2015

We conquered it fair and square.

And I don't see many liberals giving their land back to the Indians, so we all enjoy the spoils of war.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
4. OMG!
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 11:48 PM
Jul 2015

Yes, theft. Yes, all of us non-natives have benefited from it. That still does not make it right.

There is no such thing as "we conquered it fair and square."

I hope you have enjoyed your stay.

NobodyHere (588 posts)
3. Theft?

We conquered it fair and square.

And I don't see many liberals giving their land back to the Indians, so we all enjoy the spoils of war.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
11. No, you're not.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 08:15 AM
Jul 2015

The land belongs to whoever can conquer and defend it.

If the Peoples Republic of China were to militarily invade California today, and sweep across the whole country to the Atlantic, and conquer it completely, then guess who controls it? That's right: the People Republic of China.

And if they change the name from the USA to PRC 2.0, then guess what? The name of the country will be PRC 2.0.

That's. Just. Life.

Response to NobodyHere (Reply #3)

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