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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJoe Scarborough: "what makes him think he could get away with punching a blonde woman?"
blonde woman.This morning talking about De'Andre Johnson. Joe's a good ole' boy from the south!
johnp3907
(3,732 posts)But I guess I now know what color Johnson is.
brush
(53,868 posts)If she wasn't blonde he could get away with it?
And btw, I know this isn't a popular opinion, but shouldn't there be charges on both sides?
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)According to the guy's lawyer, the woman kneed him in the groin at some point prior to that punch. You can't really see that (at least I can't) in the video. I would certainly hope that anyone who committed assault faced charges.
brush
(53,868 posts)while he is holding her fist. She then throws a punch and he punches back.
The fact that she punched and kneed him is going to help him when it goes to trial.
He of course, should have walked away and not have retaliated with a punch.
aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)Prior to that there was just rude shoving fairly common at bars. Yes she put her arm up and made a fist but she didn't strike him or was making a forward motion to do so.
He put his hands on her first.
brush
(53,868 posts)In some jurisdictions flaunting a fist in someone's face is considered a threat and one is not obligated to wait to be hit without trying to stop it. He tried to stop it by holding her wrist
We'll see how it plays out as she then kneed and punched him before he retaliated with a harder punch.
Neither is completely innocent. I suspect there will be charges against her too at some point now that the video has gone viral.
BreakfastClub
(765 posts)What in the fuck do you expect her to do? Just sit back and take it? Sick, sick, sick. She had a right to defend herself.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)And the RW Israelis. That any insult, any aggression must be met with an escalation in violence.
That the answer to violence is more violence, and any other response is 'sitting back and taking it'.
I don't agree with either of them either.
The answer to violence is NOT more violence, not escalating anger. There are almost always other options available, and there certainly were other options available in a crowded bar.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Dog whistle, y'know.
Snow Leopard
(348 posts)the girl gets busted for this.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)
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wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)I have no idea where the concept that a woman should be allowed to do whatever terrible shit they want (or at least minimize it to about nothing) to a man.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... and the patient wont even know it unless they get to a neurologist or cognitive therapist.
His outburts etc and lacks of thurough thought make me think he hit his head
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Her name was Lori Klausutis.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)"what makes him (Ben Roethlisberger) think he could get away with punching a black woman?"
I am not saying Roethlisberger ever did that, but am just using it as an example. Though he did rape women.
malaise
(269,157 posts)in his office?
Ino
(3,366 posts)"Mika, don't make me backhand you."
CrawlingChaos
(1,893 posts)I don't have so much words to describe my feelings for him, as I do retching noises.
And Mika is little better, with her simpering deference.
One of the most loathsome pairs on television. Who in the hell watches this excrement?