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malaise

(269,050 posts)
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 12:46 PM Jul 2015

Serena will be playing in her 25th Grand Slam final on Saturday

She's 20 and 4. If/when she wins it will be her second Serena slam and three of four for a 2015 Grand Slam. Her opponent is the Venezuelan with Spanish citizenship, 22 year old Garbiñe Muguruza playing in her first grand slam final.
Go Serena!!!

I a tempted to use the SOWNED new word for her ownership of Sharapova.

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Serena will be playing in her 25th Grand Slam final on Saturday (Original Post) malaise Jul 2015 OP
Serena played a great match today! MiniMe Jul 2015 #1
Serena and her family have never forgiven Sharapova's father malaise Jul 2015 #2
Really? BronxBoy Jul 2015 #13
What is your source for that claim? oberliner Jul 2015 #28
Go Spain! Snow Leopard Jul 2015 #3
A vile person? What has she done to give you that impression? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #4
Don't you get tired of this shit? BronxBoy Jul 2015 #14
I don't know, yet ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #16
Freaking wow - Chris Evert just apologized to Richard Williams for their ridicule malaise Jul 2015 #48
When she threatened the lines woman Snow Leopard Jul 2015 #31
Okay. Who else is on that list. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #32
huh? Snow Leopard Jul 2015 #35
Actually, I have seen folks do far worst ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #36
why? Snow Leopard Jul 2015 #37
Just wanted to see the list. Thanks. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #38
Did you hate McEnroe too? cwydro Jul 2015 #40
Why on earth would you call her vile? Do you know her? underahedgerow Jul 2015 #8
Why would you call her "vile?"... TeeYiYi Jul 2015 #9
OMG I was going to say the identical thing and I pulled it back! Then when I read what you wrote underahedgerow Jul 2015 #11
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh! malaise Jul 2015 #26
Can we get an answer as to why you think she's vile? bigwillq Jul 2015 #18
Based on what??????? Nt Logical Jul 2015 #20
WTF?! sam_i_am Jul 2015 #22
Vile? Are_grits_groceries Jul 2015 #23
21 slams coming up malaise Jul 2015 #42
Bwaaaaaaaaaaah hahahahaha malaise Jul 2015 #44
I know, but I had hoped for a better match. cwydro Jul 2015 #5
I love her losing. She is so annoying! Nt Logical Jul 2015 #21
we are often annoyed by those who illustrate our own irrelevance. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #55
LOL, thesaurus guy! And really stalking this time. Kicking a old post. LOL you are silly! nt Logical Jun 2016 #56
Serena set up house in Sharapova's head years ago. Are_grits_groceries Jul 2015 #24
Beautifully stated malaise Jul 2015 #27
She may have built an entire guest cottage there. Are_grits_groceries Jul 2015 #39
Imagine if she had actually gotten in shape throughout most of her career taught_me_patience Jul 2015 #6
'Gotten in shape'? From the time she was 8 years old, trainers and coaches and pros were calling underahedgerow Jul 2015 #10
Look at all those matches against Venus RockaFowler Jul 2015 #15
Huh? malaise Jul 2015 #29
when.she.cures.cancer KittyWampus Jul 2015 #30
WTF? You apparently know nothing about her or the sport. nt Logical Jul 2015 #33
Lol! cwydro Jul 2015 #46
a frequent critique in her younger days, but one that time has proven completely false fishwax Jul 2015 #53
kick Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 #7
If you ever find yourself in the same room as Serena Williams, you should just know that... Yavin4 Jul 2015 #12
I'd go with global... who else can compare, if you stack up longetivity, number of wins underahedgerow Jul 2015 #19
Woo Hoo! bigwillq Jul 2015 #17
Go Serena Go! ellie Jul 2015 #25
She's amazing fishwax Jul 2015 #34
It takes a lot to go up against Steffi Graf's records - TBF Jul 2015 #41
I was a huge fan of Graf, but i agree fishwax Jul 2015 #43
Would Graf have won so many titles if the Spaniard wasn't attacked malaise Jul 2015 #45
do you mean Seles (she was Hungarian/Yugoslavian) fishwax Jul 2015 #52
Yes -and you're right malaise Jul 2015 #54
Will she get a calendar cwydro Jul 2015 #47
Well as she said this is the first time she won all three malaise Jul 2015 #49
Me too! cwydro Jul 2015 #50
A good match, and I'm glad Serena won. cwydro Jul 2015 #51

malaise

(269,050 posts)
2. Serena and her family have never forgiven Sharapova's father
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 12:52 PM
Jul 2015

for asking Richard Williams to allow Venus and Serena to be practice hitters for his daughter.
That's how you deal with racist assumptions.

BronxBoy

(2,286 posts)
13. Really?
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 04:20 PM
Jul 2015

Is that true? I never heard that.

LOL. Now he's standing in the shadow of their achievements

 

Snow Leopard

(348 posts)
3. Go Spain!
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:02 PM
Jul 2015

I think Serena is a vile person, although a great tennis player. Would be nice to see the Spaniard upset her. Highly doubtful though. I was so hoping Venus would knock her off.

malaise

(269,050 posts)
48. Freaking wow - Chris Evert just apologized to Richard Williams for their ridicule
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 10:57 AM
Jul 2015

after he told them that his daughters would be the greatest.
This is progress.

 

Snow Leopard

(348 posts)
31. When she threatened the lines woman
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 03:00 PM
Jul 2015

Then tried to deny it. No class. It is one thing to complain about a call but threats and then playing dumb put her on my vile athletes list.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
36. Actually, I have seen folks do far worst ...
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:47 PM
Jul 2015

So no ... that wouldn't make me vile list. But that's just me ... I was asking who else is on your vile list.

 

Snow Leopard

(348 posts)
37. why?
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:28 PM
Jul 2015

this is a thread about Serena. What athletes have you seen directly threaten an official with bodily harm and then deny it 20 seconds later?

but since you insist, off the top of my head
Barry Bonds
Pete Rose
Shawn Avery
Charles Barkley (when he played, I actually find him a funny announcer)
Lawrence Taylor
Oscar Pistorius
Luis Suarez
Mike Vick
Aaron Hernandez

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
40. Did you hate McEnroe too?
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 08:13 AM
Jul 2015

Pretty much everyone loses their temper in tennis. Even Federer has done so.

I can't STAND McEnroe even now, but Serena is a tremendous athlete and probably the best player in the game ever.

I think she and Venus conduct themselves with class. There are many who do not.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
9. Why would you call her "vile?"...
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 03:17 PM
Jul 2015

She's one of the kindest, most unassuming people in tennis. Her competition is with herself. She strives to be the best and she is.

Serena is the most talented female tennis player in the history of the sport. She's an inspiration and a role model for young girls and women worldwide.

Again, why would you call her vile? That ignorant label just doesn't square with who Serena is as a person. I hope you'll respond to my question or take back your comment.

TYY

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
11. OMG I was going to say the identical thing and I pulled it back! Then when I read what you wrote
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 03:29 PM
Jul 2015

I had to double check and make sure I didn't write it!

I have the honor and pleasure to work for SW, and you are absolutely spot on. She really is all about love, joy, serenity and kindness and generosity, in everything she does. She is as fragile as she is strong, and one of the kindest, most focused people I know.

Anybody here that wants to take a shot at her, has to go through me first!

malaise

(269,050 posts)
26. Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 08:49 AM
Jul 2015

Of course she's vile - she's whipping them at the elite game and speaking fluent French to boot...uppity vile woman

 

sam_i_am

(7 posts)
22. WTF?!
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 12:50 AM
Jul 2015

Is this some bullshit post or are you just a hater? Serena is a role model, charitable giver, humble person, and oh yeah, a great tennis player.

You know what I think is vile? It's people making stupid accusations and statements THAT HAVE NO BASIS IN FACT. You post reminds me of some small statement that someone makes and then TMZ blows it up like IT'S ACTUALLY NEWS.

Oh and for you and the other haters. A tribute to one of the all-time great players. You only wish you could do this.











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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
23. Vile?
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 01:28 AM
Jul 2015

If you are referring to her behavior towards a lineswoman at the US Open several years ago, you better add Johnny Mac to your list. Nobody defends that action, but that does not make her vile.

Interesting that you refuse to say what is vile about her.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
5. I know, but I had hoped for a better match.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:18 PM
Jul 2015

I am most certainly NOT a fan of the shrieker Sharapova, but that was a disappointing match.

Muguruza played a fantastic match!

Somehow I doubt she's ready to beat Serena though.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
55. we are often annoyed by those who illustrate our own irrelevance.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 03:35 PM
Jun 2016

I can then only imagine you think about her much, much more that she you. A safe conclusion may be we are often annoyed by those who illustrate our own irrelevance.

(space provided free of charge below for additional irrelevance, seasoned to flavor)

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
24. Serena set up house in Sharapova's head years ago.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 01:30 AM
Jul 2015

She has by now constructed and outfitted an entire game room.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
6. Imagine if she had actually gotten in shape throughout most of her career
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:23 PM
Jul 2015

She'd probably have 35 grand slam titles by now. She's great now and has been great, but she could have been the undisputed greatest ever if she was fully committed.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
10. 'Gotten in shape'? From the time she was 8 years old, trainers and coaches and pros were calling
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 03:23 PM
Jul 2015

her 'athletic'. What kind of 'shape' are you hoping for from the top athlete in the world?

Not committed? Hmmmm you MIGHT want to have a look at her statistics page. She average 81% wins since 1999. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serena_Williams_career_statistics

Since 1999 she's won 94 out of 116 finals. Then factor in the 10 - 15 sets X 4 that it takes to get to those finals. That's thousands and thousands of matches since 1999.

She is in the best physical condition of pretty much any athlete on the planet. She practices yoga and gymnastics, in addition to weight and flexibility and stretch training, every. Single. Day. She has as much flexibility as a ballet dancer or world class gymnast, but the strength to play for 2 hours while barely breaking a sweat and breathing hard, while her opponents are wilting in the sun after 30 minutes.

She is the simply the greatest athlete at the top of her game in the world today. I can't even imagine what you can possibly criticize!

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
15. Look at all those matches against Venus
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 04:21 PM
Jul 2015

Serena is amazing in every way.

A lot of the time it was just Venus/Serena who would win each year.

Heck look at her Doubles wins with Venus - they never lose in the Finals

Just an amazing athlete and may go down as the best Female Athlete of all time!

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
53. a frequent critique in her younger days, but one that time has proven completely false
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 01:21 PM
Jul 2015

The time off that she's had and the other avenues that she's invested energy have helped her tremendously. Her ability to perform at this level for this long and at this age is unprecedented.

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
12. If you ever find yourself in the same room as Serena Williams, you should just know that...
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 04:16 PM
Jul 2015

you are sharing a room with one of the top 10 greatest American athletes of all time.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
19. I'd go with global... who else can compare, if you stack up longetivity, number of wins
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 11:54 PM
Jul 2015

vs losses, social endeavors, commercial endeavors and simply living an extremely ethical, family oriented life...

She's absolutely one of a kind, I can't even think of any other athlete that's in her league, male or female, past or present, anywhere in the world. And such an amazing role model for kids and women. She lives such a clean, healthy and focused life, you have no idea!

I get very upset when ignorant people make insane claims about her using any kind of drug enhancements; these athletes have to be randomly drug tested regularly. Those folks just show up at the door, any time of the day or night, lol. She's no Lance Armstrong, that's for sure!

TBF

(32,064 posts)
41. It takes a lot to go up against Steffi Graf's records -
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 08:25 AM
Jul 2015

and Serena has done it at a time in which there is a lot more power & competition out there. It will be beyond amazing if she pulls off the golden slam next year in her 30s - and honestly given the competition she has played against (as opposed to Graf - through no fault of her own - really not having as much) she probably deserves the title of "best female player ever" right now.

I'm always happy to see a relative newbie get through as well so either way it's a great match today

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
43. I was a huge fan of Graf, but i agree
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 10:20 AM
Jul 2015

The number of players who have been ranked number one and the number of grand slam winners during Serena's career is far higher than during Steffi's. There have been several outstanding players this century (including her sister), but few memorable champions during Graf's reign, which began as Evert and Martina faded and then lapsed a bit once Seles emerged.

malaise

(269,050 posts)
45. Would Graf have won so many titles if the Spaniard wasn't attacked
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 10:42 AM
Jul 2015

Muguruza will beat most of the rest of them - she's bawling like a baby.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
52. do you mean Seles (she was Hungarian/Yugoslavian)
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 01:18 PM
Jul 2015

Probably not. Graf won six of her titles while Seles was absent after the attack. But, then again, a healthy Seles and a healthy Graf might have had an Evert-Navratilova type rivalry that would have elevated them both. Either way, though, the field wasn't as deep during Steffi's tenure.

Muguruza played a great first set, and then Serena kind of settled in and figured her out.

What she is doing is amazing. There have only been about 20 grand slam titles won by women over thirty, and Serena has eight of them. And I don't think she's done.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
51. A good match, and I'm glad Serena won.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:11 PM
Jul 2015

Her little sudden dance was so wonderful - we all teared up here watching.

But I'm thrilled to be a new fan of her opponent (whose name I'm not sure how to spell lol.)

Serena was so gracious and classy (as always) in winning, even giving the opponent a fantastic shout out.

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