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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 03:15 PM Jul 2015

Armed police in England and Wales only fired their weapons twice during 14,864 operations in 2013-14


Only one person has been killed by armed police in England and Wales in the last four years


Armed police in England and Wales only fired their weapons twice over the course of 14,864 operations that took place from 2013-2014.

This means that firearms were only used in 0.013 per cent of armed police operations during this period. In 2014, only one person was killed by police in England and Wales.

The statistics, released today by the Home Office, cover the financial year from April 2013 to March 2014, and show the huge contrast between policing in the UK when compared to America.

503 people in the USA have been killed by police using firearms in the first six months of this year - and in the first 24 days of 2015, American police killed more people than police in England and Wales have killed in 24 years.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/armed-police-in-england-and-wales-only-fired-their-weapons-twice-during-14864-operations-in-201314-10378829.html

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Pretty damning evidence that America's police are out of control. There's an amazing graph in the article demonstrating the phenomenon.
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Armed police in England and Wales only fired their weapons twice during 14,864 operations in 2013-14 (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 OP
But how many of those operations involved suspects with firearms? malthaussen Jul 2015 #1
That's part of the point...the deadly, toxic gun-culture in the US Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #2
If by "gun culture," you refer to ease of access... malthaussen Jul 2015 #4
'Ease of access', yes, and an obsessive reliance on fire-power Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #6
Although how much of that is attributable to gun culture... malthaussen Jul 2015 #7
Especially unarmed person running from police shot in the back multiple times. hobbit709 Jul 2015 #3
Yep, obviously a deadly threat. malthaussen Jul 2015 #5

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
1. But how many of those operations involved suspects with firearms?
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 03:28 PM
Jul 2015

Agreed, European police and British in particular are skilled in the art of the unarmed takedown. But there are, alas, a lot of suspects in the US who have firearms, and even more whom the police like to say they "feared" had firearms.

-- Mal

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
4. If by "gun culture," you refer to ease of access...
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 04:01 PM
Jul 2015

... I'll grant that point. Setting aside all the other rhetoric on the issue, criminals use firearms because they can get at them, and thus the police need to be able to match them in murderousness. I think, though, that even were firearms banned as strictly as possible tomorrow, it would take a long time for them to stop circulating enough to make a case for disarming police. But meanwhile, we seriously need to do something about the militant mentality of our police forces. (Stipulating, of course, that our rulers are really interested in promoting citizen welfare in the first place, which is problematic at best)

-- Mal

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
6. 'Ease of access', yes, and an obsessive reliance on fire-power
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 04:09 PM
Jul 2015

to solve arguments, disputes and parking space disagreements.

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
7. Although how much of that is attributable to gun culture...
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 04:14 PM
Jul 2015

,,, and how much to an awe-inspiring sense of asshole entitlement is a question. One of my first OPs here at DU wondered why US culture so much encourages violence, whether with firearms or fists or even just language. I can only assume there are a lot of people with a lot of rage and no empathy or self-discipline at all.

-- Mal

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
5. Yep, obviously a deadly threat.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 04:02 PM
Jul 2015

Or the person handcuffed and lying on the ground who moved in an aggressive manner.

-- Mal

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