And THAT is what Nikki did.

Love your 5 day deodorant pad. ; )

One involved taking note of her initial, instinctive, first-off-the-tip-of-her-tongue response - because somebody in the press gaggle that night brought it up. She STATED, while hemming and hawing, that it was heritage blah-blah-blah, and how well there are so many people in this state who cherish that flag and it's meaningful to them and that's who we are and blah-blah-blah.

Two it struck me that she was keeping in mind that constituency - that wanted the stars 'n' bars to fly free and proudly. Hmmm... why are you hovering so close to them? Building a base for bigger things?


Aha - she went out and got a manicure before this. Beforehand, so to speak!

She had the full power to remove the flag the day that Pinckney's remains were lying in State. She did not. It showed to me how true her change of heart really was. Not very true at all.

Like some one else mentioned, she could have declared a state of emergency the day after the terror attack and taken that rag down!! She didn't. She's no hero and she's not brave! Some of the comments in her favor after different articles I've read are vomit inducing, by so-called dems.

She is only doing this because she had no other choice. While I'm pleased the flag is going to be removed, it's more hypocrisy from the Republicans.

I will say Jenny Horne gave me hope that some Republicans are not completely loony and racist.

Against a backdrop of dark and black business suits. Well, if there was any confusion as to where to look, in that scene, this should put it to rest.

You sure do great take downs. That was priceless!

calimary~

But once she had exhausted all other options, was run to ground and trapped like a weasel in the corner, she finally, grudgingly, did the right thing so long as the legislature laid down their supine bodies for her to walk across. Which they did. Finally. Grudgingly.

I'm more interested in the end result, and feeling really good that once again, when we fight, we win. Gov. Haley's political fellow travelers are already running the goal posts as far downfield as they can, pooh-poohing the idea that this will end racism forever (nobody said it would); it's a slap in the face to all racist loser bitter-enders across the South (I'd much rather kick 'em in the nuts); and this is all just political correctness run amok (no, it's human beings acting with kindness toward one another for a change, which is probably what threw you).

We fought. We won. But the bitter-enders are absolutely right about one thing: We're not done, and we'll be back again next week to fuck with something you assholes revere. Have a nice weekend!

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once said, bless her dark heart (assuming she has a heart, that is) - "we're going to destroy everything you believe in."

Back atcha, annie-baby!

I'll give her that. (dammit.)

It also tells me something else about her. She's shrewd. OR she has shrewd people around her and the good sense to listen to them.

John McWhorter of Columbia University is on now (MSNBC), talking about how this really kinda is progress. Like that. Maybe this is. But it is dreadfully shameful that it takes a massacre of nine saintly people, and the Actual Living Saints in their families who forgave through choking tears is what it takes to effect some real movement. I kinda really believe this about the families of the Mother Emanual Nine. I was thunderstruck by their open expressions of the most sincere forgiveness, as I watched it live that day. They were trying to follow the Teachings of Jesus through the GREATEST tribulation imaginable, each a kind of modern-day Job in that way. No greater love. And they were abundantly successful. Forgiving THAT. I'm not gonna go all religion-y here, but I think we've all had a Visitation of some sort. Maybe it's the Grace that President Obama spoke and sang about at the memorial. Those people are real live Saints. They're going to go to Heaven when they die. On an Express Elevator).

It's too damn shameful on us all that it takes THAT to get HERE. Shame on us all that we somehow can't push it over to the other approach - like these genuine saints showed us a few Fridays ago. Or maybe we as a collective political body, complete with an active lizard brain, are just that by nature? It's sad that things are so desperate and divided and devolved in this country that we're forced to take a forward movement any way we can get it.

And I blame all of us. Everybody. Me too. The mentality and stubbornness and closed-mindedness and bigotry and sexism that we see on display too often, and we who just haven't yet found a way to stop it, change it, reverse it, and obliterate it. Send it back to the Dark Ages where it belongs. We all bear responsibility. Cuz we ARE all in this together.

Yep, that is why following Lincoln's advice is prudent (It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth an remove all doubt- ok, that is paraphrased)

. . .into their ranks anytime soon.

Both she and Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal made a deal with the devil in becoming part of the GOP. They're now learning the hard way that the GOP in the South really doesn't give a shit about anybody who is not WASP.

this idea up a year ago, and she was staunchly and quite publicly against it. That was her FIRST response, her initial reaction, her gut talking - it's tell. It's a blurt. It's the first thing you blurt out when you're asked something - BEFORE you've had a chance to think about it (or think better of it). It's what you say, immediately off the top of your head, that's for real. THAT'S the one you can take to the bank. THAT'S the one that would pass a polygraph test.

Whatever comes after that - PARTICULARLY if it's different or even, with both nikki and jebbie, 180 degrees different - is just BS. Vetting, rewriting, weatherizing, reinterpreting, homogenizing, spinning, correcting, laundering, disinfecting. Foot-removal. Prophylactic, if you will. Political chiropractic. Sanitized, for the speaker's protection.

...9 South Carolinians were slaughtered, I thought the celebratory/congratulatory bill signing ceremony was a little "off." I would have preferred a more somber tone.

In contrast to an opinion above, I found the pen gesture distasteful. Good stagecraft, perhaps, but rather exploitative, IMO. If I were one of the surviving family members, I would not want one. (Nothing personal, calimary - just a different reaction.)

I love this thread

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Great post, Calimary!

she is an opportunist

I read that Priebus promised her a spot on the VP shortlist if she'd go along with removing the Confederate flag.

And they think having a woman on the ticket would help blunt some of that. "Well, WE'VE got one TOO!!!!!"

Sure enough, our miss nikki showed up at that flag lowering ceremony in a blindingly white suit. What? Does she have a whole wardrobe full of these? They're camera-catchers. Your eye is immediately, and reflexively, and almost helplessly drawn toward the bright shiny object, the glaringly obvious color difference - again, a tableau of men in dark respectable business suits and a few women here and there who were wearing other dark colors, an occasional red, or other color - but nikki haley comes sashaying in, wearing her blindingly white suit to set herself off from all that, and make her easier to see. You could literally spot her in the crowd from the overhead shots. Anybody notice? Aerial views from some news helicopter hovering overhead, but there was no mistaking where nikki haley was. EVERYBODY could pick her out in the crowd. That white suit made her stand out. That was no accident.

nancy reagan used to have her social secretary send word around before big state dinners and other events - what mrs. reagan would be wearing, to all the VIPs and their friends and fancy society folks to make sure no other woman would dare arrive wearing the same designer outfit or gown or similar color, and rain on her parade. That way SHE would stand out. I saw a photo in a book about the Duchess of Windsor, where milady was at some glitzy social event and OH MY GOODNESS there was another woman there who was wearing the very same elegant designer dress. And much was made of this whispered tittering social blunder. Hello, Faux-Pas! Major OOPS Factor! That's one reason why all the bridesmaids in the wedding party are dressed in a different color - so the bride, in her white gown, will stand out.

nikki haley gets this, big time. I suspected it before. Now I KNOW it for sure. Watch how she dresses. Maybe she has a stylist or maybe not. But she understands this and, wanting to be the center of attention and - I suspect - wanting to have this whole flag-lowering event be just a weeeeee little bitty bit about her, too, and what a great brave bold leader she is and how wonderful and modern and forward-thinking and conciliatory she is to "lead the way on this and blah-blah-blah..." and other versions of "Oh Isn't She Wonderful!!!" In that nice attention-getting blindingly white suit. It allows her to play cute and coy and allow her words to say - "oh, this isn't about MOI!!! (Cue the eyelash-batting!) This is about South Carolina and blah-blah-blah." But meantime you don't even need lights on that camera because in that blindingly white suit, she positively glows on her own. She's utterly incandescent... saint nikki! Saint nikki!

All hail "saint nikki."

Yeah, okay, sure. Fine. Whatever.

Is any Democrat actually praising what she did?

You're 110% correct here but I think you are preaching to the choir.

That just might put some dingy discoloration on that blinding white suit. That "Look at ME! suit." Or as my husband often says - "More ME, please!"

I hope the opposition research is already crankin'.

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I figured she'd be lauded for something she was just a bystander to. She deserves no credit for that flag being gone. None. She was simply there when it happened.

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Her side of the aisle should know all about that one.

They won't do anything good unless we force them to.

That was her default position. That she came around and started dancing to the tune of the opposite side - the ones both black AND white who wanted that hate rag taken down. They're many of the same potential "constituency" that is OUTSIDE the South Carolina borders. She suddenly became mindful of that, I suspect, and "adjusted" her talking points accordingly. All of a sudden she's Miss Magnanimous toward changing times and social mores. All of a sudden she's all about that whole "togetherness" thing and that whole "let's all unite" thing. Because she IS mindful of her career and where she thinks it could lead her. She's ambitious enough to consider herself a potential Presidential material, and shrewd enough to understand some psy-ops that can help her get there. White Suit et al. Of Course she wants to keep on her career's upward track.

She's on a roll now, to be sure. Stay awake and aware!