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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 04:23 PM Jul 2015

The RWNJ are going to have a field day with this one-Vatican: "Communist crucifix" sign of dialogue


SANTA CRUZ, Bolivia (AP) — Bolivian President Evo Morales' controversial gift of a "Communist crucifix" to Pope Francis threatened to overshadow the pope's visit to Bolivia on Thursday, with the Vatican and Bolivia both insisting that no offense was intended or taken.

Morales gave Francis the crucifix carved into a hammer and sickle upon Francis' arrival in Bolivia Wednesday, immediately raising eyebrows given Morales' past attacks on the church and his socialist bent.

It turns out, the crucifix was originally designed by a Jesuit activist, the Rev. Luis Espinal, who was assassinated in 1980 by suspected paramilitaries during the months that preceded a military coup. Francis, a fellow Jesuit, stopped his motorcade to pray at the site where Espinal's body had been dumped.

The Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said Thursday the pope had no idea that Espinal had designed the crucifix and was surprised to receive it — a reaction clearly visible in the footage of the encounter. Some reports suggested the pope told Morales "This isn't good;" one of Francis' friends sent a tweet quoting him as saying such. But Lombardi said it wasn't known what the pope had said.

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The RWNJ are going to have a field day with this one-Vatican: "Communist crucifix" sign of dialogue (Original Post) n2doc Jul 2015 OP
That's because they're all so ignorant and provincial. Warpy Jul 2015 #1
finally, something Peppone and Don Camillo can agree on! MisterP Jul 2015 #2
The "Morales is a commie" crowd has some ammo this time Reter Jul 2015 #3
Well, his party is the Movement Toward Socialism. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #4

Warpy

(111,274 posts)
1. That's because they're all so ignorant and provincial.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 04:35 PM
Jul 2015

Just keep twirling your forefingers next to your temples, folks, and move on.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
3. The "Morales is a commie" crowd has some ammo this time
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:01 PM
Jul 2015

Hard to say he isn't. If Pinochet 30 years ago gave the Pope a Nazi cross, the world would say he's a Nazi, and rightly so.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
4. Well, his party is the Movement Toward Socialism.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:23 PM
Jul 2015

And he's the leader of the Plurinational State of Bolivia.

I guess he's an indigenous commie.

And former leader of a large coca growers' union.

Bolivians seem to like him.

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