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ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 07:58 PM Jul 2015

The LOST GIRLS, One famous band. One huge secret. Many lives destroyed.

The horrifying story of the Runaways......Sometimes I am not proud to be a male human. This is one of them.


In 1974, when she was only 14, Jackie Fuchs would wake up way before her parents and catch a ride with friends from her house in the San Fernando Valley across the Santa Monica Mountains and into Malibu. She’d hit the beach and paddle out in the quiet, pre-dawn dark.

It was the only time she could be on the water and not have to deal with the catcalls and the teasing, the good-natured gibes that gradually shaded into something harder and meaner. Before sunrise, she was just another surfer, her back to the sand, waiting for the right wave. She liked being the only girl out there.

Tall and slender with bright blue eyes and brown hair down to her shoulders, Jackie could have passed for Mary Tyler Moore’s daughter. The surfer dudes called her “Malibu Barbie.” One editor of a surfing magazine struck up a correspondence and sent her letters addressed to “Maliboobie.” “You had better get hot and send some good photos,” he wrote to her in black marker. “Your competition in photos is getting tough! You should see what some girls are sending in!” She could never tell how seriously to take the attention. In a letter to the editor published in June 1974, Jackie admonished one magazine for its skin-deep coverage of female surfers: “If they’re so hot, why don’t you show them surfing? Some of us chicks have more than just hot bods! Awoo!”


http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/the-lost-girls/
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The LOST GIRLS, One famous band. One huge secret. Many lives destroyed. (Original Post) ghostsinthemachine Jul 2015 OP
Man that really does not sharp_stick Jul 2015 #1
This attitude gravitates to Bay areas seveneyes Jul 2015 #2
Read the whole thing. MineralMan Jul 2015 #3
On an apositive note ... seveneyes Jul 2015 #4
Wow, didn't see any of this in the runaways movie... mikeysnot Jul 2015 #5
Jett, Currie and Ford spoke glowingly of Fowley when he died. EL34x4 Jul 2015 #16
I do remember from the 70s, there was a real thing in the music business about jailbait. bemildred Jul 2015 #6
If you had any influence whatsoever in the business of rock and roll during the 70s, EL34x4 Jul 2015 #17
Never met Kim Fowley but know many who did. zappaman Jul 2015 #7
really sad how he kept those gals hating each other just enough so they'd be more loyal to him bettyellen Jul 2015 #11
... Solly Mack Jul 2015 #8
Jackie Fuchs went to Harvard Law School with Barack Obama teach1st Jul 2015 #9
I din't know about any of this until just now. herding cats Jul 2015 #10
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. eppur_se_muova Jul 2015 #14
A lot of truth in that. Same way Boomers talked of the 60's. closeupready Jul 2015 #15
I read this whole thing earlier today. Crushing. closeupready Jul 2015 #12
Guy was worse than slime rpannier Jul 2015 #13
I'm of that time and that place and I can't read this. hunter Jul 2015 #18
Joan Jett responds..... ghostsinthemachine Jul 2015 #19
What a ghastly story. hifiguy Jul 2015 #20
Jackie Fuchs Discusses Going Public About Her Rape, Joan Jett's Response And Her Message For Her Abu ghostsinthemachine Jul 2015 #21
 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
16. Jett, Currie and Ford spoke glowingly of Fowley when he died.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:27 AM
Jul 2015

And I can't find the exact quote but it was either Joan Jett or Cherie Currie who complained that the film exaggerated Kim Fowley's behavior, making him look worse on screen than he really was.

Incidentally, the film also featured the role of bass player "Robin", a fictional character created for the movie because Jackie Fox (Fuchs) refused usage of her name.

As of today, Jett's camp has refused to comment on Fuch's allegations. And Salon has now called Jett out about it.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/09/the_explosive_runaways_rape_story_will_joan_jett_speak_up_for_her_bandmates_now/

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
6. I do remember from the 70s, there was a real thing in the music business about jailbait.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 08:46 PM
Jul 2015

But I think the drugs did more damage.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
17. If you had any influence whatsoever in the business of rock and roll during the 70s,
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:47 AM
Jul 2015

Having sex with underage girls was par for the course. I can't say they all did it, but a great many did. Men now regarded as "Elder Statesmen of Rock & Roll" would be in prison today for the stuff they got away with during the 1970s. There's a reason Ted Nugent isn't running for public office. Of course, I can't point my finger at Nugent without pointing that same finger at dozens and dozens of other performers, many of whom I grew up listening to and idolizing.

The sexual landscape of the 1970s was very blurry. And, no, the drugs didn't help. Of course, if these allegations are true, even during the blurry sexual landscape of the 70s, there was a clear line at drugging and forcibly raping an underage girl. See Roman Polanski.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
11. really sad how he kept those gals hating each other just enough so they'd be more loyal to him
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 10:53 PM
Jul 2015

what a fucking piece of work.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
10. I din't know about any of this until just now.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 09:41 PM
Jul 2015

I know, vaguely, about the band and the artist who came from it.

I don't know what to say. I grew up around people talking about the 70's like they were some sort of real cultural revolution. The more I'm learning, the more it sounds like it was anything but. I don't blame them for their false reality of the era. I think we romanticize the period of our youth as being something we imagined it to be, not what it really was.

eppur_se_muova

(36,266 posts)
14. It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 09:42 AM
Jul 2015

It all depended on what societal niche you occupied -- as it always has.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
15. A lot of truth in that. Same way Boomers talked of the 60's.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:29 AM
Jul 2015

And the Beatles, free love, etc.

Now we have, who, One Direction and Tinder.

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
18. I'm of that time and that place and I can't read this.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 12:57 PM
Jul 2015

Too many horror stories; gay young men and I.V. drug users dead of AIDS, and now the alcoholic-tobacco-prescription-drug-abusers among us starting to check out.



My parents met working in Hollywood, but they left for more ordinary work.

Two of my siblings tried to get into acting, my sister occasionally playing tough surfer girl bit parts, but they quit Hollywood too.

Much of the entertainment industry is horrible and always has been.

My first major in college was television production and engineering, I was really excited about the new digital television technology, but after two years of that, and a few very sordid Hollywood experiences looking for summer jobs, and the fact there were few, sometimes no women in my classes because the environment was so hostile toward them, that's why I changed my major to biology and never looked back.



ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
19. Joan Jett responds.....
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 07:18 PM
Jul 2015

Joan Jett, iconic rock star and former member of the all-female band the Runaways, said she was unaware her bandmate was raped by manager Kim Fowley 40 years ago.

Jett spoke out in a Facebook post Friday night, her first public comments since HuffPost reported former bassist Jackie Fuchs' account of being attacked at age of 16. Fuchs said Jett was present during the assault.

“Anyone who truly knows me understands that if I was aware of a friend or bandmate being violated, I would not stand by while it happened.” Jett, who still performs with the Blackhearts, wrote on Facebook. “For a group of young teenagers thrust into '70s rock stardom there were relationships that were bizarre, but I was not aware of this incident. Obviously Jackie’s story is extremely upsetting and although we haven’t spoken in decades, I wish her peace and healing.”

Fuchs, who played bass for the Runaways from 1975 to 1977 under the name of Jackie Fox, revealed to HuffPost’s Jason Cherkis that she was drugged at a New Year’s Eve party during her time with the band, and was raped by band manager and music industry heavyweight Kim Fowley. The claim was corroborated by several witnesses, including former Runaway lyricist Kari Krome. Fuchs had never spoken publicly about the attack before HuffPost’s report, published on Wednesday.

MORE HERE: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joan-jett-statement-rape_55a08c7be4b0b8145f72dd93?cps=gravity_2428_-2254822634135576523

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
20. What a ghastly story.
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 08:03 PM
Jul 2015

In my late teens I had a fierce crush on Jackie.

Was extremely surprised years later to learn she entered Harvard Law the fall after I graduated.

Fowley was an unspeakable scumbag.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
21. Jackie Fuchs Discusses Going Public About Her Rape, Joan Jett's Response And Her Message For Her Abu
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 08:22 PM
Jul 2015

Jackie Fuchs, a former bass player for The Runaways, made waves earlier this month after publicizing the story of her alleged rape by band manager Kim Fowley at a New Years Party on the eve of 1976. After a bigger-than-expected response to her story, she joined HuffPost Live on Thursday to discuss the aftermath of going public.

As described in a piece for HuffPost Highline, Fuchs recalls the harrowing experience of being sexually assaulted at 14, in plain sight of numerous teenagers, with three adult males also present. While Joan Jett has said in a statement that she was "not aware of this incident," collective accounts of the event from others present at the time allege that Jett stood by as her bandmate was violated.

Speaking to HuffPost Live on Thursday, Fuchs refrained from refuting Jett's claim, instead affirming that "the important thing to focus on is that certainly the Joan of today would not stand by and watch a bandmate being assaulted in any way without doing something."

"But at the time of the incident, Joan, like most of the other people in the room, was a teenager," Fuchs continued. "And we all like to think that we are the type of people who would stop an assault in progress, because most of us are good moral people, but even good moral people have a hard time acting when they see an event of bullying or of sexual assault or anything similar. Especially when there are a lot of people around."

Fowley died in January 2015, and while Fuchs mentioned that the two stayed in touch to an extent after her assault, there is a conversation the 55-year-old wishes they'd had.

MORE: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-conversation-jackie-fuchs-wishes-shed-had-with-her-alleged-rapist_55b144e0e4b0a9b948541dc0?

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