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A truly stunning polling chart..... (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2015 OP
LOOK, they're doing the "flavor of the month" thing again! eom MohRokTah Jul 2015 #1
Yep Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2015 #4
I still like to hear Newt say "nominee" wrong. Chiyo-chichi Jul 2015 #23
He sounds like Ralph Kramden! George II Jul 2015 #24
hmmm. the definition shows the accent on the first Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #28
Gingrich is saying it with NO stress on the last syllable rock Jul 2015 #37
That's a secondary stess mark on the first syllable. Chiyo-chichi Jul 2015 #41
Kind of reminds me of how people in the south say NAYtoe for NATO and INsurance Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #42
Hey, don't rank down on us southerners because of our accents. lark Jul 2015 #57
What an ignorant, bigoted statement Ishoutandscream2 Jul 2015 #74
That's funny. Agree - when you mis-pronounce and you are around everyone Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #92
Never judge people by their accents. Judge them by their behavior and character. YOHABLO Jul 2015 #75
Isn't that how NATO is supposed to be pronounced? whatthehey Jul 2015 #78
I don't think I described it very well. Yes you are right - long a and long o Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #89
The Southern pronounciation that fascinates me is "vehicle" Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2015 #88
I hear VEE hickle - like two words instead of one. nt Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #90
Yeah and what about those British people, almost like they don't know A Simple Game Jul 2015 #93
Churchill famously said that the Americans and the British hifiguy Jul 2015 #99
I remember that now that you mention it. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #100
Dialects and accents are one thing - totally incorrect pronunciations of an English word another. nt Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #101
The ignorance is not in the sound of the word vlyons Jul 2015 #103
My accent is the California non-accent like you hear on the news and movies lunatica Jul 2015 #105
I do agree - but Ya, like I said ...not the accent, the mispronunciation. Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #108
that's what I refer to as accent also lunatica Jul 2015 #109
yes, I agree...that is why for some words, there are multiple acceptable pronunciations. Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #116
John Kasich could make it out of this squabble sounding like the only sane conservative left. Alittleliberal Jul 2015 #102
I fear Kasich is their stealth candidate. He can appear sane. If you don't look too close. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #111
Ohh ya Alittleliberal Jul 2015 #118
No, I dont think so in this case. I agree with Rude Pundit here... stevenleser Jul 2015 #64
that trump bump comes from his remarks. Yes, the GOP is a racist group. roguevalley Jul 2015 #69
Where is this from? drm604 Jul 2015 #2
This is POLLSTER's aggregate of all national polls. brooklynite Jul 2015 #3
Oh, if only that could happen it would be GREAT for us! George II Jul 2015 #25
It's not good for anybody. RiverNoord Jul 2015 #63
So, which one of the other candidates would stop the erosion? lolly Jul 2015 #98
I agree entirely. RiverNoord Jul 2015 #107
If this early salad-making were a reliable guidepost Plucketeer Jul 2015 #106
Trump is going to destroy the Republican Party..... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #5
Nah, they'll gerrymander the delegates first. valerief Jul 2015 #11
He is doing damage long before any delegates are involved, he is doing damage right now. Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #22
Exactly. drm604 Jul 2015 #27
Actually, the damage is portraying the GOPers as crude, rich, jerk-offs in it for the sport. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #51
There is only one problem for them hifiguy Jul 2015 #38
if the idiot vote starts to coalesce around Trump virtualobserver Jul 2015 #59
Yep. That's why his polls are taking off. John Poet Jul 2015 #86
shame. you can't reason with this kind of stupid. spanone Jul 2015 #6
lol. Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 #7
Trump's performance is amazing Gothmog Jul 2015 #8
No more than the last time the Clown Car rolled into town in 2012. Lots of employees of the month. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #40
...... trusty elf Jul 2015 #84
Trump should be afraid. jwirr Jul 2015 #9
3 sitting US Governors, 1 sitting US Senator, a former US Senator and a former Governor rpannier Jul 2015 #10
Wonder what the hell happened to their grand ol party? Cha Jul 2015 #85
They got old and died hopefully the same will happen to the current generation of Fox viewers. gordianot Jul 2015 #96
I had dinner last night with a couple... Whiskeytide Jul 2015 #12
Yes...I know some of the Same Kind of People you are referencing... GReedDiamond Jul 2015 #14
They're good friends, advanced college degrees... Whiskeytide Jul 2015 #15
Trump = 6 bankruptcies. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #29
really? Six times?! NJCher Jul 2015 #113
Running a nation like a business hifiguy Jul 2015 #66
They tried running the Federal Government as a business during Bush II 1st term. -none Jul 2015 #91
I always love it when idiots say to run the country like a business. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #80
Anger can blind even the reasonable tomm2thumbs Jul 2015 #119
Meh. I expect him to flame out before too long. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #13
Man I hope not... Whiskeytide Jul 2015 #16
maybe after seeing how this whole thing is going, Stewart will reconsider... CTyankee Jul 2015 #19
The GOP is starting to feel the burn with Trump. They'll be speaking to him real soon B Calm Jul 2015 #17
If he keeps hanging around and hanging around Ex Lurker Jul 2015 #18
Romney will be the Republican nominee AverageGuy Jul 2015 #58
... n2doc Jul 2015 #20
Carson 3rd, I am not sure what to make of that Amishman Jul 2015 #21
He's the voice of the bomb throwers Renew Deal Jul 2015 #31
He appeals to the outside DC folks IMHO riversedge Jul 2015 #36
bush will be their nominee still_one Jul 2015 #26
Herman Cain Renew Deal Jul 2015 #30
Trump will not fizzle out AverageGuy Jul 2015 #61
There can't be an oops moment for Trump ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #71
That's a weird kind of shield for the Dumpster. hifiguy Jul 2015 #73
I like the term shitweasel. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #112
What a cluster fuck. morningfog Jul 2015 #32
And ain't that great !!!! Amazingly entertaining nt Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #44
It's like watching the monkeys run the circus. hifiguy Jul 2015 #67
Interesting dive with Rubio. You never see him. Wonder if he knows he will Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #33
He can't, constitutionally... brooklynite Jul 2015 #49
Pretty easy to get around. former9thward Jul 2015 #70
There was a lawsuit about that in 2000. NYC Liberal Jul 2015 #79
I read the opposite. They can be from same state...but the problem Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #77
I actually saw a KASICH ad yesterday....TWICE!! MADem Jul 2015 #34
Obama on Trump's "credentials and breadth of experience" Bagsgroove Jul 2015 #35
And this the VERY NIGHT he got Bin Laden annabanana Jul 2015 #39
His delivery was brilliant! If he wasn't president he could host a talk show. nt Quixote1818 Jul 2015 #60
WTF?! ejbr Jul 2015 #43
Who? Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #115
Besides Trump - what I get is that there isn't anyone they like or are growing to Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2015 #45
Where's Palin? L. Coyote Jul 2015 #46
What a mess! Literally! Left coast liberal Jul 2015 #47
Whenever I look at these polls, I hear the "Benny Hill" theme song in the back of my mind. BlueEye Jul 2015 #48
Striking is the Decline of Scott Walker Herman4747 Jul 2015 #50
Certainly a hilarious one. heh. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #52
not all Republicans are bad retrowire Jul 2015 #53
That depends on your definition of bad. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #81
But I thought the people voting Republican John Poet Jul 2015 #87
Oh please oh please oh please Scootaloo Jul 2015 #54
Hmm, Christie's #11, first one left out of the debates if they were held today. lark Jul 2015 #55
Perry will come across as much less of a loon. AverageGuy Jul 2015 #62
Welcome to DU lark Jul 2015 #95
Looks like it could use some work matt819 Jul 2015 #56
Don's not really running. He's doing his racist schtick to make Jeb look like the perfect Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #65
Originally that was the plan, but now his poll numbers are rising, so is B Calm Jul 2015 #72
Yes! Yes! Yes! Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #76
Why do people imagine this is some plot? brooklynite Jul 2015 #94
Could be both and more. Remember this is how this group of "self-appointed" elites think Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #97
I predicted this after he announced on DU... add another one... He isn't going away JCMach1 Jul 2015 #68
Awful, awful people, one and all... Hissyspit Jul 2015 #82
Go Quack! Cha Jul 2015 #83
Another, "who can sound the craziest" competition Douglas Carpenter Jul 2015 #104
It won't last, but it's great news. BobTheSubgenius Jul 2015 #110
I don't know how republicans find their way home from the dollar store. IHateTheGOP Jul 2015 #114
I think this proves one thing.. mountain grammy Jul 2015 #117
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
28. hmmm. the definition shows the accent on the first
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:51 AM
Jul 2015

syllable - like he says

nom·i·nee
ˌnäməˈnē/


but, when you ask to hear pronunciation - they accent the last
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=nominee

rock

(13,218 posts)
37. Gingrich is saying it with NO stress on the last syllable
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:22 AM
Jul 2015

As if it were spelled "nomimy" rhyming with "hominy". Heavy stress is given on the last syllable in my dictionary. Though the word sounds perfectly normal to me with heavy stress on the first and medium stress on the last.

Chiyo-chichi

(3,580 posts)
41. That's a secondary stess mark on the first syllable.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:52 AM
Jul 2015

That's why the stress mark is subscript. Note the superscript stress mark before the last syllable, indicating primary stress.

Dictionary.com gives "nom-uh-nee"

Kenyon & Knott's Pronouncing Dictionary of American English (the definitive source, IMO) gives the stress on the last syllable. Kenyon & Knott's uses the International Phonetic Alphabet, so I can't reproduce it here... and they don't give an alternate pronunciation.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
42. Kind of reminds me of how people in the south say NAYtoe for NATO and INsurance
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 12:08 PM
Jul 2015

for InSUREance. Sounds ignorant.

Oh...another... MOTtoe for motto

lark

(23,102 posts)
57. Hey, don't rank down on us southerners because of our accents.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 01:43 PM
Jul 2015

Judge us by our brains and words instead of the way we pronounce things. We think pak mah cah sounds weird, so guess we're not as judgemental as others. (?)

I'm really sick of people saying "southerners", like it's every one of us, are ignorant because we speak with a different accent. Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Ishoutandscream2

(6,662 posts)
74. What an ignorant, bigoted statement
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 09:49 PM
Jul 2015

If you're down here, then YOU are the one saying it incorrectly. God, I'm so sick of this shit on DU.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
92. That's funny. Agree - when you mis-pronounce and you are around everyone
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 09:54 AM
Jul 2015

else who is saying a word incorrectly, you fit right in. But, here's what I don't understand (and using this example, NAY' TOE (like it is two words), because I have never heard anyone else say it that way anywhere else)...why people don't notice that everyone else they hear when traveling elsewhere - while watching news, commentary, events, etc. is saying it differently. Like it or not, the people who are saying it correctly - judge you as not being perceptive enough to realize you are not saying it correctly.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
75. Never judge people by their accents. Judge them by their behavior and character.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:18 PM
Jul 2015

I was a waiter here in Atlanta, and I've waited on some New Yorkers that I would like to spit on. Such rude people.
People down here in GA are very hospitable and friendly. Many of us are Dems and Liberals too. So watch it.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
78. Isn't that how NATO is supposed to be pronounced?
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:48 PM
Jul 2015

IPA indicates a long a as in base (too lazy to copy IPA characters) followed by long o as in code, which in "pidgin phonetics" would be as you typed it.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
89. I don't think I described it very well. Yes you are right - long a and long o
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 09:37 AM
Jul 2015

what I am describing is an accent on TOE. Nay TOE. Mot TOE. Like each is two words

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
99. Churchill famously said that the Americans and the British
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:44 PM
Jul 2015

were two peoples divided by a common language.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
103. The ignorance is not in the sound of the word
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 05:39 AM
Jul 2015

If the ignorance was inherently and intrinsicly in the sound of how the word is pronounced, then everyone everywhere would agree that INsurance etc sounds ignorant. But that is clearly not the case. No dear, the label "ignorant" is a quality that you impute and project onto the sound that you hear. The ignorance is in you. Go study the heart sutra.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
105. My accent is the California non-accent like you hear on the news and movies
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 10:00 AM
Jul 2015

But when I lived in Fayetteville, NC when I was in High School everyone commented on how "funny" I sounded. And when I was in Boston everyone said I sounded like a foreigner, like I was British or something.

And I was brought up in Mexico and let me tell you that the Spanish speaking countries all have VERY different accents. You can tell what country the speaker is from by their accents, just like you can distinguish between Southern English, New England English, Irish and Scottish English, British English and Australian English.

We all sound weird to someone.

Personally I love different accents. I think it makes us all interesting.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
109. that's what I refer to as accent also
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 11:15 AM
Jul 2015

Everyone learns to pronounce words as they hear them growing up.

How do you pronounce the word comparable? Is it with the accent on the the o or on the first a? I hear it pronounced both ways all the time. People pronounce it the way they hear it pronounced when they first hear it.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
111. I fear Kasich is their stealth candidate. He can appear sane. If you don't look too close.
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 11:57 AM
Jul 2015

He's a radical supply sider. He is extremely anti-labor. He believes anything Wall Street wants they should have.

Electing Kasich would be about as bad as electing Jeb.

Alittleliberal

(528 posts)
118. Ohh ya
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:27 PM
Jul 2015

He seems like the only adult in the room compared to the rest of their clown car. That's very dangerous for us.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
63. It's not good for anybody.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 03:45 PM
Jul 2015

Except, possibly, Donald Trump. His support is pure racism. The cost to the nation's eroding capacity to engage in responsible self-government vastly outweighs any short-term political benefit to the Democratic party.

lolly

(3,248 posts)
98. So, which one of the other candidates would stop the erosion?
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:15 PM
Jul 2015

Seems to me if damage to responsible, serious government is the issue, every one of those candidates will continue the erosion.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
107. I agree entirely.
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 10:44 AM
Jul 2015

I just can't take pleasure in the continuing shift of tolerable open political dialogue toward extremism and corporatism in our country. Romney declares 42% of Americans are deadbeats (in that case, not exactly openly) and he still comes close-ish to becoming the President of the United States. So that enables the GOP and Tea Partiers to go further. Trump declares explicitly that immigrants from Mexico are murderers and rapists, and he sees a bump in support. This goes on everywhere, which is why cutting Social Security/Medicare benefits is now an open topic, rather than political death. The further the right pushes the dialogue into topics that:

1) Keep people squabbling over petty issues, meaningless to their corporate backers but great for distraction - god, guns, gays, 'race', abortion.

2) Subtly meld those issues with anti-viable government concepts (insufficient taxation so that undesirable government functions are subject to the chopping block, all forms of welfare are just helping deadbeats, etc.)

the further our Republic sinks toward corporate hegemony.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
106. If this early salad-making were a reliable guidepost
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 10:33 AM
Jul 2015

We'd be celebrating pizza as the national food these days.

And furthermore, ol' Newt had trouble with his pronunciations because he was talking out his ass - as he'd always done before.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
5. Trump is going to destroy the Republican Party.....
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 09:59 PM
Jul 2015

They are cowering before him.

He is like an out of control child emperor.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
22. He is doing damage long before any delegates are involved, he is doing damage right now.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 09:03 AM
Jul 2015

Larger damage than the Republicans will admit. He is defining them as anti immigrant, racist shits. Which of course they are, but they like all of that to be more covert and less openly stated.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
27. Exactly.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:50 AM
Jul 2015

They prefer to telegraph their racism to that part of their base subtly. Trump is forcing them to openly either agree or disagree with his racist crap. If they disagree, they turn off that part of their base, and if they agree they turn off everyone else.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
38. There is only one problem for them
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:27 AM
Jul 2015

with this moron: He is saying out loud what they and the base all actually believe but won't say. That's why they do not dare call him out. This is highly entertaining.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
59. if the idiot vote starts to coalesce around Trump
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 02:02 PM
Jul 2015

he can't be knocked out by "revelations" in the way that a normal candidate can.

The Republicans would have to screw him out of the nomination with procedural unfairness,

Trump could drag the nut vote out of the republican party

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
10. 3 sitting US Governors, 1 sitting US Senator, a former US Senator and a former Governor
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 12:20 AM
Jul 2015

trail a neurosurgeon, a guy who has filed for bankruptcy 6 times and a woman who nearly ruined a company
I wonder what Bill Buckley, Barry Goldwater, Dwight Eisenhower, Gov Dewey, Howard Baker, Nelson Rockefeller and Goodwin Knight would think

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
96. They got old and died hopefully the same will happen to the current generation of Fox viewers.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 02:58 PM
Jul 2015

Cursed are the right wing nut jobs they are not worthy to inherit anything.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
12. I had dinner last night with a couple...
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 01:00 AM
Jul 2015

... of friends who id as republicans. They both agreed Trump is batshit crazy, but they like that he's not the establishment and that he's not afraid to say what he thinks. Maybe they're so disappointed in the same old occupants of the clown car that they're just looking for a wild card. They seem to LIKE that he's turning their party inside out. Very odd.

GReedDiamond

(5,313 posts)
14. Yes...I know some of the Same Kind of People you are referencing...
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 01:22 AM
Jul 2015

...they are all LOVIN' on The Donald.

Weird, but, understandable, if you look at the rest of the GOP Klown Kar Kandidates, I guess.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
15. They're good friends, advanced college degrees...
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 01:28 AM
Jul 2015

... and pretty open minded on social issues. But electing a "businessman" to run the country like a business is right up their ally. I tell them all the time that they are the most dangerous conservatives on the planet because of that philosophy, but they think I'm just joking.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
29. Trump = 6 bankruptcies.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:52 AM
Jul 2015

The goal is to send a businessman like that to DC to bankrupt and destroy the Federal Govt.

NJCher

(35,675 posts)
113. really? Six times?!
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 12:40 PM
Jul 2015

I knew at least once, but I had no idea six times.

That should be a meme, what you just wrote in your subject heading.


Cher

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
66. Running a nation like a business
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 07:13 PM
Jul 2015

is a recipe for complete disaster. Like going to a podiatrist when you need a brain surgeon.

-none

(1,884 posts)
91. They tried running the Federal Government as a business during Bush II 1st term.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 09:47 AM
Jul 2015

It did not work too well and they had to back off. Lots of outsourcing of good long time government people and loss of institutional history.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
80. I always love it when idiots say to run the country like a business.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:10 AM
Jul 2015

I ask them which company? Enron? Chrysler? WorldCom?

Then I ask them what percentage of businesses fail within TWO years? (It's about 80%). Do they want the government run like that?

Then I say the US, not run like a business, is over 200 years old and still going strong. NAME ONE BUSINESS, JUST ONE, that can say the same?

That usually shuts the dumb f--ks up.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
119. Anger can blind even the reasonable
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:33 PM
Jul 2015

No doubt the fact that so many of the GOP field are inarticulate, unemotional politically-calculating goofs can make the difference on who you choose to hang your hat on.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
19. maybe after seeing how this whole thing is going, Stewart will reconsider...
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:50 AM
Jul 2015

I don't think he anticipated this craziness. Not that I think he'll just do TDS all over again, but something with bite and sting in a new way. He has to realize that we need him now more than ever...

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
17. The GOP is starting to feel the burn with Trump. They'll be speaking to him real soon
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 04:07 AM
Jul 2015

about getting out of the race. He was originally in the race to make the rest of their candidates look halfway sane. But as the polls are showing this is now going to far.

Maybe he'll run as independent.

Ex Lurker

(3,813 posts)
18. If he keeps hanging around and hanging around
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:20 AM
Jul 2015

He could win. I give him less than a 10% chance, but his chance is not zero. He sucks all the air out of the GOP race, nobody else is able to lay a glove on him, and he rides a populist wave of resentment to the nomination. Then Hilary (assuming she's the nominee) gets an unrecoverable October surprise, or has a serious health crisis, or something.

President Trump. Wonder what Putin would think of that?

 

AverageGuy

(80 posts)
58. Romney will be the Republican nominee
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 01:55 PM
Jul 2015

With so many candidates, the Republican convention will be deadlocked. This is because they have proportional distribution of delegates in the largest states. Donald may very well have one of the largest blocks. Romney will be chosen as the compromise candidate.

Renew Deal

(81,859 posts)
30. Herman Cain
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:52 AM
Jul 2015

Where does Trumps support go when he fizzles out? And where does Carson's go when he flames out?

 

AverageGuy

(80 posts)
61. Trump will not fizzle out
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 02:18 PM
Jul 2015

If you go to Free Republic, you will see how much they love him. To us he is a mad man, to them he tells it as it is. He knows TV so the debates will be easy for him, there will be no oops moment for him. He has name recognition in the primaries, and Jeb can not run away from his last name on the ballot. We may not understand why he is so strong in the polls, but the RNC does, and that is why they are not a happy bunch at this time.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
71. There can't be an oops moment for Trump ...
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 08:11 PM
Jul 2015

everything he says would be an oops for ANYONE else (unless, as the RudePundit riffed, Trump starts talking about F'ing Ferrets)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026959715

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
73. That's a weird kind of shield for the Dumpster.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 08:28 PM
Jul 2015

He could come out and admit he fucks sheep, or ferrets as the case may be, and no one would so much as raise an eyebrow. Everyone already knows he's the lowest kind of shitweasel in existence who is capable of doing or saying absolutely anything.

He has no surprise or shock factor. It really is funny.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
67. It's like watching the monkeys run the circus.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 07:14 PM
Jul 2015

Except the monkeys are ram-fed full of meth and Red Bull.

former9thward

(32,012 posts)
70. Pretty easy to get around.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 07:41 PM
Jul 2015

One of them could make a move to another state. Cheney lived in TX when Bush picked him. Cheney then moved to WY.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
79. There was a lawsuit about that in 2000.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:07 AM
Jul 2015
http://archive.democrats.com/view.cfm?id=604

Cheney was not a resident of Wyoming by any serious reading of the law, but, of course, a Reagan-appointed judge dismissed the lawsuit.

Yet another way Bush/Cheney stole the election.
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
77. I read the opposite. They can be from same state...but the problem
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:36 PM
Jul 2015

is that Florida electors can't vote for both.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/apr/16/lawrence-odonnell/president-vice-president-same-state-allowed/

So is it true?

The answer is no. Neither the Constitution nor the Electoral College prevents Bush from picking a fellow Floridian or any candidate from choosing a running mate from the same state.

It just might make things tricky, depending on the situation.

We'll explain the why and how.

What the Constitution has to say about electing presidents

While registered voters select their preferred candidate for president, the actual electing of the president and vice president is in the hands of the Electoral College. There are 538 electors representing the 50 states and the District of Columbia. Candidates need a majority, 270, to win.

Those electors cast a separate vote for president and vice president. But that wasn't always the case. From 1789-1804, Electoral College members got to vote for two men (and back then, it was only men). The top vote-getter became president and the second-place winner became vice president.

There was one caveat. Electoral College voters, called electors, could not cast both of their votes for two people from their home state. In plainspeak, an Electoral College member from Maryland couldn’t cast his two votes for candidates from Maryland. Electors from any other state could still vote for two Maryland representatives, just not the electors from Maryland.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
34. I actually saw a KASICH ad yesterday....TWICE!!
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:00 AM
Jul 2015

It was coming out of the Boston media market and no doubt aimed at southern NH voters.

It was a hot mess of an ad--mushy, flag waving, lots of buzzwords, fuzzy family-ish pictures, obligato minority children in quick shots, smiling people, lots of blah blah....still have no idea what his point was.

He's trying to "make an impression" ahead of the primaries. The impression I got was VAGUE and UNFOCUSED!!!

Bagsgroove

(231 posts)
35. Obama on Trump's "credentials and breadth of experience"
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:15 AM
Jul 2015

Funniest thing I ever saw at a White House Press dinner -- the very last line..."decisions that would keep me up at night"

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
45. Besides Trump - what I get is that there isn't anyone they like or are growing to
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 12:12 PM
Jul 2015

like. Didn't Obama's trend line grow up, big picture. the more people saw, the more liked him. These people have reached their peak of likability before the whole thing has even started

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
53. not all Republicans are bad
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 01:07 PM
Jul 2015

but when the majority of them tend to back the worst offender of the group, they really shouldn't get confused when people consider the GOP the party of racists and morons.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
81. That depends on your definition of bad.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:15 AM
Jul 2015

I think anyone who supports the republicans is bad because in doing so they are backing a lot of evil actions. Many do so for the tax cuts, their own personal gain, at the expense of brutalizing the poor and bankrupting the nation. To me that is very bad indeed.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
87. But I thought the people voting Republican
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:15 AM
Jul 2015

do so because they WANT to brutalize the poor, and bankrupt the nation !

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
54. Oh please oh please oh please
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 01:20 PM
Jul 2015


At this point we could nominate a cup of Cynthia McKinney's spit and still win the white house again.

lark

(23,102 posts)
55. Hmm, Christie's #11, first one left out of the debates if they were held today.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 01:35 PM
Jul 2015

Can't imagine Faux keeping this to 10 candidate limit- when Christie, friend of big business, is #11. Just glad Perry and Trump make the list as they are such loons, they will be entertaining to watch, for the short time until they implode again.

 

AverageGuy

(80 posts)
62. Perry will come across as much less of a loon.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 02:28 PM
Jul 2015

He has studied and prepared this time. Besides he has his professorial glasses.

lark

(23,102 posts)
95. Welcome to DU
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 02:40 PM
Jul 2015


It would be difficult to be less prepared than he was last time, lol. He thought he could just waltz into the presidency because he was from TX and had good hair. He can't run on TX record and he's still a lightweight intellectually and Walker's already got the stupid spot filled.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
56. Looks like it could use some work
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 01:41 PM
Jul 2015

Maybe call in the firm that did the London metro map. I think they might also have done the NYC subway map.

The only problem is that all those lines lead, as is the case with all Republicans, nowhere. Just ending up at a dead end.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
65. Don's not really running. He's doing his racist schtick to make Jeb look like the perfect
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:52 PM
Jul 2015

non-racist candidate, at the same time pulling all the looney-bigot-fringe into the gop fold.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
72. Originally that was the plan, but now his poll numbers are rising, so is
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 08:19 PM
Jul 2015

Donald Trump's ego. I hope the GOP party leaders piss him off enough to run on a 3rd party ticket and split the republican vote.

brooklynite

(94,577 posts)
94. Why do people imagine this is some plot?
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 11:26 AM
Jul 2015

If it were, Bush would know to attack Trump's comments immediately; not wait two weeks.

This is Trump running to promote himself, and finding he can appeal to the real Republican voters. Nothing more.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
97. Could be both and more. Remember this is how this group of "self-appointed" elites think
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 03:01 PM
Jul 2015

and behave, con artist are always conspiring and scheming. So that's just normal for them. It's just going to take the rest of us, who do not think that way to not play into their Congame, cause they always have at least 1 Congame going. A Congame is a conspiracy.

JCMach1

(27,559 posts)
68. I predicted this after he announced on DU... add another one... He isn't going away
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 07:17 PM
Jul 2015

He is the repug's worst nightmare... themselves in a mirror!

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
110. It won't last, but it's great news.
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 11:56 AM
Jul 2015

The Donald has ZERO chance of being elected, should he somehow bluster his way to the nomination. But that won't happen, either.

mountain grammy

(26,621 posts)
117. I think this proves one thing..
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:30 AM
Jul 2015

nearly 16% of likely Republican voters are really really stupid and really really racist, which is the same thing, really!

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