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7962

(11,841 posts) Fri Jul 10, 2015, 09:19 AM Jul 2015

Hate crime charges sought in July 4 beating

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/07/08/police-will-seek-hate-crime-charges-fountain-square-attack/29867779/
Cincinnati Police Chief Jeffrey Blackwell has reconsidered and is asking Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters to pursue hate crime charges in the Government Square attack that left a white man beaten and bloody on the Fourth of July.

Police Officer Alicia Essert called the beating "anti-white" in the incident report, but at a news conference about the incident, Cincinnati Police Capt. Mike Neville backed off that claim, calling it a "mistake."

"In many cases, a hate/bias relationship between the offender(s) and suspect(s) may not be easily apparent at the time of, or even shortly after the commission of the offense," police spokeswoman Tiffaney Hardy said in a release. "Often, hate/bias elements become evident only after thorough investigation and review of the available evidence."

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Hate crime charges sought in July 4 beating (Original Post) 7962 Jul 2015 OP

Hmmm, read the article and saw no evidence of hate crime other than a group of black people beat uponit7771 Jul 2015 #1

I dunno romanic Jul 2015 #2

Sometimes there's a declaration or clear evidence. Igel Jul 2015 #3

You are absolutely right. 7962 Jul 2015 #4

That's my point, the races HAVE been reversed and seldom rule as hate crime especially if law ... uponit7771 Jul 2015 #6

I don't know if it was a hate crime, but I'm not too fond of punks who swarm attack people. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #5

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2015 #7

uponit7771

(90,344 posts)

1. Hmmm, read the article and saw no evidence of hate crime other than a group of black people beat

Reply to 7962 (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 09:51 AM

Jul 2015

... up a white person.

Usually there's some declaration of intent of the actions

romanic

(2,841 posts)

2. I dunno

Reply to uponit7771 (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:43 AM

Jul 2015

it kind of does look like it could be an anti-white crime judging by several videos. I surely wouldn't rule it out A very sad case and one that those with hate will use as some kind of "told you so" with their racial biases.

Igel

(35,317 posts)

3. Sometimes there's a declaration or clear evidence.

Reply to uponit7771 (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:53 AM

Jul 2015

Sometimes there's not. Not all hate crimes are prosecuted as hate crimes, or even readily identifiable as hate crimes. Not everything prosecuted as a hate crime is.

Most often "hate crime" is in the eye of the beholder, and the prosecutor's opinion may vary, as well as the judge's and jury's.

Imagine the races reversed, and people would be all over the hate-crime angle. "We're good, they're bad." It gets tedious.

7962

(11,841 posts)

4. You are absolutely right.

Reply to Igel (Reply #3)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:59 AM

Jul 2015

Your last sentence says it all. This post is a good example; up for a few hrs and 3 responses.

uponit7771

(90,344 posts)

6. That's my point, the races HAVE been reversed and seldom rule as hate crime especially if law ...

Reply to Igel (Reply #3)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 02:50 PM

Jul 2015

... enforcement is involved blacks are victims of the majority of hate crime act.

The shootings in Oklahoma a couple of years ago comes to mind... those guys were going around black neighboorhoods shooting random black people and LEOs still were hard pressed to call it a hate crime.

George Zimmerman had NO REASON whatsoever to chase a teenager through a dim lit neighborhood with a gun but was never even charged with nuasance.

The guy who shot into the car with teenagers that were black, never charged with hate crime...

There are many instances in big stories if it was just one color on the other hate crime never comes up as an issue

Comrade Grumpy

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5. I don't know if it was a hate crime, but I'm not too fond of punks who swarm attack people.

Reply to 7962 (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 12:56 PM

Jul 2015

Chickenshits.

uponit7771

(90,344 posts)

7. +1

Reply to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 02:50 PM

Jul 2015

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