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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:23 PM Jul 2015

Suddenly Seeing: “The Conversion of Paul on the Way to Damascus” by Caravaggio

“He would have been a great film-maker, there’s no doubt about it. I thought, I can use this too...”
--Martin Scorsese on Caravaggio’s influence on “Taxi Driver.”


1601. The Cerasi Chapel of Santa Maria del Popolo. Rome

The artist must have felt this one in his bones. After all, he was now being recognized in Rome as an “outstanding painter of the city” for his magnificent St. Matthew paintings. Particularly “The Calling of St. Matthew,” where the artist deftly and dramatically depicts the sudden shining of divine grace into the life of a sinner. It was commissioned by a French cardinal, Matthieu Cointerel, for his commemorative chapel.


The Calling of St. Matthew,” 1599-1600, Contarelli Chapel, San Luigi dei Francesi, Rome.

Caravaggio’s skillful ability to portray such inexplicable shining was now in demand by yet another rich patron, Tiberio Cerasi, who commissioned from the artist the two side panels for his burial chapel in the Santa Maria del Popolo . The altar painting would go to Caravaggio’s talented rival, Annibale Carracci, who had become widely famous for his ceiling in the magnificent Palazzo Farnese. The Cerasi Chapel project was shaping up to be a contest between the two most famous painters in Rome.

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The Cerasi Chapel

Carracci was fifteen years older than Caravaggio at that time. He had seen Caravaggio’s work in the Francesi church and might have assumed that his rival would repeat the style that won him so much renown. Carracci decided to double down on what were his strengths when depicting the Virgin’s assumption. His altarpiece glories in the pure, sweet style and softened colors of the High Renaissance and without any hint of the real world. Centrally placed, it should have taken pre-eminence in the presentation as a whole. Instead, it seems to our eyes to be distinctly retrograde, rather airless, and with a politely posed cast of characters. The Virgin’s feet on the heads of winged cherubini border on the faintly ridiculous. Her face, as described by one critic, is that of an “ecstatic doll.”

Caravaggio’s painting opposite the conversione is “The Martyrdom of St. Peter.” The pairing of paintings depicting the two saints was not unusual. Both were revered in Rome and regarded as the founders of the Apostolic See. The stories of their lives often appeared together, but Paul’s conversion was usually presented with a scene of Peter receiving the keys to the kingdom of heaven from Christ.

However, there was a notable precedent for the combination in the Cerasi Chapel: Michelangelo’s late frescoes (1542-1549) in the Pauline Chapel (next to the Sistine) in the Vatican

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Moreover, placing them together can be theologically justified in that both are mystical deaths: Paul dies to the world to be reborn in Christ and Peter literally dies to meet his rewards in heaven. And in fact, the cruciform gesture of Paul is echoed in the physical execution of Peter (as is that of the Virgin in the altarpiece).

Caravaggio had not originally painted this version of the Conversion. His earlier -- and very much inferior -- effort was rejected by Cerasi.

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The Conversion of St. Paul. 1600/1601.

It is not hard to see why this version was rejected: its composition is crowded and confusing, a clutter. This is an older, out of shape Paul with an oddly reddish beard. Not the clean faced young and muscular Roman soldier vanquished by the light of Christ. A young angel and shadowy bearded Christ swoop down and are injected awkwardly into the picture, removing the mystical nature of what has happened. The man (Paul’s retainer?) in the absurdly elaborate plumed helmet seems irrelevant, brandishing a sword to no one in particular. The little window of the countryside detracts from the drama and again, we wonder why it is there in the first place.

Paul’s skewbald horse is another marvel of this work. By portraying such a coloration the artist has achieved a high note of illumination of the horse’s mane to accentuate the drama of the scene and has also provided materiality (especially in roundness of the workhorse’s belly) to the picture’s worldliness. Pablo Picasso, in crafting his masterpiece “Guernica,” told Salvadore Dali that he wanted the horse at the center of the painting to have the same presence as Caravaggio’s: “I want it to be so realistic...that you can smell the sweat.”

At the time of Caravaggio’s arrival in Rome, the Church was in the full throttle of the Counter Reformation. Shaken by the successes of Luther’s Reformation efforts in the north of Europe, the Church had to do something. And that would be both the stick of brutal repression of heresy as well as the carrot of art, splendidly and indulgently lavished with rich (and costly) ultramarine blue in particular. It was art that appealed to the masses who largely were unable to read and had to rely on pictorial representation of their faith to get them through their lives with that faith intact. What Luther had railed against, the Roman Catholic Church had decided to celebrate even more intensely.

This was an opportunity but also a challenge to Caravaggio. While he was a genius at portraying the suffering of the saints and what he believed was the real glory of the martyrs, it was also in the face of the Church’s new decree of decorum in each religious art work. As biographer Peter Robb says

“The trouble was that decorum didn’t occur in nature. A painter who worked only from life was pretty soon going to run into serious difficulties. Caravaggio duly did.”

But Caravaggio was determined to portray the truths about the followers of Christ: they were neither rich nor splendid and often died brutal deaths, and he painted them in scenes expressed in an aggressively harsh piety, using earth colors such as ochre and umber, carbon black, lead white and verdigris. He must have intended such an ascetic extreme. Even when he used the more brilliant vermilions and blues, he generally toned them down.

Caravaggio clearly had no use for such pretty idealizations as Carracci’s Assumption. This led him to take the cleverest parting shot possible for future generations of viewers who would visit the Chapel: his positioning of the rump of Paul’s proletarian carthorse pointedly aimed right at Carracci’s altarpiece.

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Suddenly Seeing: “The Conversion of Paul on the Way to Damascus” by Caravaggio (Original Post) CTyankee Jul 2015 OP
Brava!!! Love this painting. Love Caravaggio in general!! Coventina Jul 2015 #1
Oh, you must have a wealth of stuff at your fingertips... CTyankee Jul 2015 #2
Jealous! Never had the privilege of seeing a Caravaggio in person. Coventina Jul 2015 #3
Hey, you were at the Uffizi and that is a wonderful treat... CTyankee Jul 2015 #5
I think you might be confusing me with someone else. Coventina Jul 2015 #6
Oh, I'm sorry...geez...you might want to check what can/cannot be tax deductible CTyankee Jul 2015 #7
Haha! My husband calls it "The Museum Death March" Coventina Jul 2015 #8
Oh, my husband can't even do musuems physically any more and I can only barely... CTyankee Jul 2015 #10
*salivating* Coventina Jul 2015 #11
It ain't everything but you can do LOTS...get on that plane and go... CTyankee Jul 2015 #14
Got to see this one in person: The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2015 #15
a wonderful Caravaggio...with all the trappings of power set aside.... CTyankee Jul 2015 #16
One thing I thought was interesting The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2015 #23
Where do you live? tavernier Jul 2015 #25
Phoenix, AZ Coventina Jul 2015 #27
My mom's favorite. There is a kneeling monk that she saw in the National Gallery in London roguevalley Jul 2015 #12
It is my pleasure, believe me... CTyankee Jul 2015 #13
I nearly killed my back in the National Gallery in London a few years back... CTyankee Jul 2015 #40
Loves me some Caravaggio shenmue Jul 2015 #4
Great painter. A real forecaster of the cinema...Scorsese was absolutely right! CTyankee Jul 2015 #9
WOW. Breath-taking! calimary Jul 2015 #17
so glad you like them! My pleasure entirely! CTyankee Jul 2015 #18
Looks like that first night Bernie Sanders stood up and spoke. n/t jtuck004 Jul 2015 #19
Ya know, Caravaggio was a man of the people and I'll just bet he would love Bernie! CTyankee Jul 2015 #20
If it's Friday it's CTyankee's art lesson malaise Jul 2015 #21
Hi, lovey! Glad to see you here... CTyankee Jul 2015 #30
K and R panader0 Jul 2015 #22
glad to see you here...was wondering if you were around at this time...thanks for CTyankee Jul 2015 #41
Beautiful CrawlingChaos Jul 2015 #24
you are so welcome! Glad you like it. "Conversion" is one of his greatest works. CTyankee Jul 2015 #29
That must have been amazing! CrawlingChaos Jul 2015 #32
Pretty amazing. It was so calm in the churches...I guess the people in the pews were CTyankee Jul 2015 #38
I was hoping... NJCher Jul 2015 #26
every other week. I have another ready to go in a couple of weeks... CTyankee Jul 2015 #33
Beautiful post! burrowowl Jul 2015 #28
The difference, of course, is in the light. Warpy Jul 2015 #31
He did light his subjects...there were contemporary critics who commented on the CTyankee Jul 2015 #35
You post gorgeously!1 n/t UTUSN Jul 2015 #34
Thank you! Glad to see you here. Have you seen my art posts before? CTyankee Jul 2015 #36
I certainly have, am aware of your penchant for the lovely, but don't chime in!1 n/t UTUSN Jul 2015 #37
oh, please do from now on. I love getting feedback...even arguments... CTyankee Jul 2015 #39
Have always loved Caravaggio's work! Of the heists of art closeupready Jul 2015 #42
thank you for this! I had done an independent study on Caravaggio in my grad CTyankee Jul 2015 #44
lots of art thefts are done by people who just don't realize that they can't sell CTyankee Jul 2015 #46
Love your posts flying rabbit Jul 2015 #43
thanks! There'll be more to come... CTyankee Jul 2015 #45

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
1. Brava!!! Love this painting. Love Caravaggio in general!!
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:50 PM
Jul 2015

I teach both "Conversion of Paul" & "St. Matthew" in my courses.

It's too bad Caravaggio self-destructed at such a young age.

He had so many more masterpieces to paint.....

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
2. Oh, you must have a wealth of stuff at your fingertips...
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:58 PM
Jul 2015

I didn't know you taught art history!

These two paintings are among Caravaggio's best, IMO. Death of the Virgin is another.

I remember particularly staggering out of the Francesi after seeing the Matthews...

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
3. Jealous! Never had the privilege of seeing a Caravaggio in person.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:08 PM
Jul 2015

Closest I've come is one of his followers:

Artemisia Gentileschi's "Judith Slaying Holofernes".

It spend a couple of months here and I visited it a bunch of times....

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
5. Hey, you were at the Uffizi and that is a wonderful treat...
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:22 PM
Jul 2015

I spent an exhausting 10 days on an art intensive in Florence...whatta trip...I could have spent 6 months and not seen all the art treasures Florence had to offer...

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
6. I think you might be confusing me with someone else.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:24 PM
Jul 2015

I haven't made it to Italy at all, yet, but, soon I hope....soon.

Especially after reading "The Agony and the Ecstasy" last summer....

But, I'm an Art Historian, which means I'm not exactly wealthy, and travel funds for professional development are not as available as they were for previous generations of college professors.....


CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
7. Oh, I'm sorry...geez...you might want to check what can/cannot be tax deductible
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:33 PM
Jul 2015

for travel to see art in Italy, seeing that it is so important to your profession.

Get to Rome, spend a few days, get a train to and from Florence and come back...even if you have only a few days for each city, if you plan it well enough you can see LOTS. I was lucky; I had a book that told me what room every masterpiece in the Uffizi I wanted to see was in so I planned it out that way (the Uffizi is not really very user friendly since it was an office building of the Medici that they gave to the city).

LOL, I'm like a bulldog with a bone when it comes to art travel...in fact I'm probably a PITA to any travel companion that doesn't really want to spend all that time going thru museums...

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
8. Haha! My husband calls it "The Museum Death March"
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:37 PM
Jul 2015

For an engineer, though, he's been very patient and tolerant of how our vacations have been conducted.



We've toyed with the idea of trying to claim trips as tax deductions, but we've always chickened out because we're afraid of looking like we're trying to "pull a fast one".

But, maybe we should take another look at that....

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
10. Oh, my husband can't even do musuems physically any more and I can only barely...
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:40 PM
Jul 2015

I don't expect anyone to be as crazy as I am about art. I just get up and out and do it. Florence was a real dream. It's a very walkable city and with a map you can easily find most everything you want on foot (take a bus to the Oltrarno to see the Massaccio Expulsion from Eden).

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
11. *salivating*
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:43 PM
Jul 2015

Definitely on my bucket list!!!

I'd like a week in Florence and its surroundings, if possible....

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,716 posts)
15. Got to see this one in person:
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 08:07 PM
Jul 2015


It was in a wonderful exhibit at the Minneapolis Institute of Art of a huge collection owned by the Habsburgs. It's really impressive in person, and really large.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,716 posts)
23. One thing I thought was interesting
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 08:48 PM
Jul 2015

was that the man on the right has a "farmer" tan - an unexpected bit of realism.

tavernier

(12,389 posts)
25. Where do you live?
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 09:07 PM
Jul 2015

The Indianapolis Art Museum has a Carvaggio. Beautiful piece. I saw it last summer.

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
27. Phoenix, AZ
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 09:22 PM
Jul 2015

We have a pretty good art museum, for being such a backwards town in many respects.

But, very few "old masters".

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
12. My mom's favorite. There is a kneeling monk that she saw in the National Gallery in London
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 07:28 PM
Jul 2015

that stopped her in her tracks. The colors. the intensity. Bravo. THank you for your art posts. Lovely stuff.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
40. I nearly killed my back in the National Gallery in London a few years back...
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:41 PM
Jul 2015

I went through the entire Sainsbury Wing which I had planned out ahead of time and was near tears with pain at the end of it. There is a great book on its collection by a now deceased art critic that I used to plot out my strategy of seeing this art but it was so overwhelming I just went from room to room and resting in the ones that had a place to sit. Turns out that I have arthritis in my lower spine and need to be more careful of myself...but it was my last day in London and I was damned if I was going to let that opportunity pass me by...oh, foolish me...

calimary

(81,295 posts)
17. WOW. Breath-taking!
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 08:21 PM
Jul 2015

They sure don't make 'em like that anymore!

SUPERB collection, CTyankee!!! THANK YOU!!!!!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
20. Ya know, Caravaggio was a man of the people and I'll just bet he would love Bernie!
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 08:29 PM
Jul 2015

He became a huge supporter of a reform movement within the Roman Catholic Church about social reform.

CrawlingChaos

(1,893 posts)
24. Beautiful
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 08:53 PM
Jul 2015

I love the way Caravaggio's paintings seem to be formed out of darkness and I've always been drawn to masterful examples of chiaroscuro. These are so beautiful.

Thank you for another wonderful art post CTyankee!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
29. you are so welcome! Glad you like it. "Conversion" is one of his greatest works.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:02 PM
Jul 2015

Just terrific. I couldn't believe I was seeing them in these rather small churches with just a smattering of people in the pews...how could they not understand they were in the presence of magnificence? You just threw a little euro change in the light box and the light would go on in the chapel (about the size of a walk in closet) and you'd get 15 minutes of light on them...

CrawlingChaos

(1,893 posts)
32. That must have been amazing!
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:14 PM
Jul 2015

Whenever I've had the opportunity to see a masterpiece I've seem a thousand times in books in the flesh (so to speak), I've gotten chills head to toe. And that was always in a packed museum. I can't imagine seeing something like this in the intimate setting you described. Must be incredible.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
38. Pretty amazing. It was so calm in the churches...I guess the people in the pews were
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:24 PM
Jul 2015

just used to it but it blew me away...how could they just sit there and not fall on their faces? Reproductions in books make them look like they are in magnificent large settings when they are in these tiny "chapels" off to the side of the pews...it's amazing...

NJCher

(35,675 posts)
26. I was hoping...
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 09:16 PM
Jul 2015

You would do an art thread soon! I was going to pm you to see if I'd missed one along the way!

Yay, some good reading!


Cher

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
31. The difference, of course, is in the light.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:11 PM
Jul 2015

Caravaggio's paintings all use light an hour after daybreak or an hour before sunset. The light is warmer and from a low angle, the shadows far deeper. That gives his work drama than the more conventional Carracci's paintings have, his painted in midday, the light filtered through clouds, the divine fire lacking the punch it would have had in one of Caravaggio's paintings. In fact, if we didn't know it was divine fire, we might wonder if the heavenly hosts were emptying their night jar on the poor slobs below.

(plink, plink)

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
35. He did light his subjects...there were contemporary critics who commented on the
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:19 PM
Jul 2015

technique he used...by today's standards it's crude but it sure got the job done...however, he was a breakthrough artist for sure and demanded that we see life in art in a very different way...he broke thru for the Baroque artists to come...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
39. oh, please do from now on. I love getting feedback...even arguments...
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:26 PM
Jul 2015

I've got one coming up that caused near riots in Paris! So be warned...

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
42. Have always loved Caravaggio's work! Of the heists of art
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:02 PM
Jul 2015

which I find MOST distressing is the story of a missing Caravaggio masterpiece as detailed here (and I think there was another painting which was confirmed as destroyed):

http://huntingcaravaggio.blogspot.com/2011/04/mystery-of-missing-painting.html

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
44. thank you for this! I had done an independent study on Caravaggio in my grad
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 09:01 AM
Jul 2015

studies back in 2003 so I never saw this story. I did know that one of C's masterpieces was destroyed (it was in Germany at the time) during WWII in a bombing. Very sad. Only a black and white photo of it remains...you can find the whole story if you google the Contarelli Chapel and get the history of St. Matthew and the Angel...



CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
46. lots of art thefts are done by people who just don't realize that they can't sell
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 09:38 AM
Jul 2015

masterpieces and often end up just leaving them in places where they can be recovered and anonymously tipping off the police. The 1999 Boston art heist was like that only the art work has not yet been recovered. The FBI and Boston PD know who did it and feel it is just a matter of time before they get these priceless works back (one is a Rembrandt and the other is a Vermeer). It's a fascinating story...

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