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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:49 PM Jul 2015

Pat Buchanan warns of another Civil War: The time of mass right-wing civil disobedience is at hand

Pat Buchanan warns of another Civil War: The time of mass right-wing civil disobedience is at hand

"A secession of the heart has already taken place," he said using rhetoric that is in no way inflammatory

SCOTT ERIC KAUFMAN


In his latest column at WorldNetDaily, paleoconservative commentator Pat Buchanan argued that given the Supreme Court’s ruling that legalized same-sex marriage and the Oklahoma Supreme Court’s decision to remove the Ten Commandments monument from the state capitol grounds, a “rebellion” unlike any seen since the Civil Rights Movement “is likely to arise from the right.”

Buchanan situated this “coming era of civil disobedience” in a long tradition that began with the Founding Fathers. “What else was our revolution but a rebellion to overthrow the centuries-old rule and law of king and parliament, and establish our own?” he asked.

“U.S. Supreme Court decisions have been defied and those who defied them lionized by modernity,” he added without noting that the positions his civilly disobedient activists would support wouldn’t be “lionized by modernity,” given that they’re based on the teachings of a man who — if he ever even lived — has been dead for 2,000 years.

Buchanan connected the coming struggle with the Civil Rights Movement — in particular, with Martin Luther King, Jr., whose “Letter from Birmingham Jail” he quoted. “One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws,” King wrote, to which Buchanan replied, “what is an ‘unjust law’?”

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Pat Buchanan warns of another Civil War: The time of mass right-wing civil disobedience is at hand (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2015 OP
God I hope so...wanna DEAL with these treasonous racist fucks once and for all randys1 Jul 2015 #1
Hopefully their "Days of Rage" will coincide with election season, and we, in the Unsilent Majority villager Jul 2015 #2
That fucking gerrymandering CRIME of theirs is an outrage, did you know it takes two randys1 Jul 2015 #4
Just a technicality until they can revert to GOP-run state legislatures picking Senators again... villager Jul 2015 #6
Here, this might help your crusade -- Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #17
Civil disobedience abakan Jul 2015 #3
Uh, didn't that already happen? When tens of thousands of them gathered in DC to demand Obama leave Coventina Jul 2015 #5
I think it was the million porta-potti March. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #8
Buying and using an illegal handgun is their idea of civil disobedience. leveymg Jul 2015 #25
Buchanan is invoking MLK? LOL Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #7
+1,000 malaise Jul 2015 #20
what is "right-wing civil disobedience"? they gonna keep the bank doors locked? refuse to tip? Sunlei Jul 2015 #9
Really who is asking them to be obedient. gordianot Jul 2015 #10
"Lionized by modernity"? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2015 #11
Shortage of lions. hifiguy Jul 2015 #30
Pat Buchanan? NorthCarolinaL Jul 2015 #12
I was just thinking the same thing. "Didn't he die?" BlueJazz Jul 2015 #31
No, but with this Pope I imagine he feels he's in purgatory. HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #34
Conservatives don't do protest march type of civil disobedience. BKH70041 Jul 2015 #13
Knight of Malta and Reactionary Conservanazi. PeoViejo Jul 2015 #14
Buchanan sure likes other people to go to war gratuitous Jul 2015 #15
It's not the teachings of the 2K-years ago guy they base their "defiance" on... JHB Jul 2015 #16
Pat Buchanan 1992 speech will be long remembered as the end of the Republican party Johonny Jul 2015 #18
As the late, great Molly Ivins said, hifiguy Jul 2015 #27
Extremely well said! H2O Man Jul 2015 #38
Buchanan would jump for joy if another McVeigh blew up another federal building tabasco Jul 2015 #19
I think he's right. Something is coming. I'm not sure what but something is going to happen. craigmatic Jul 2015 #21
Here's Pat on Martin Luther King Jr, part of his advice to Nixon not to visit Dr King's widow which Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #22
hey pat, there aren't that many of you stupid fuckers. spanone Jul 2015 #23
Many bases are in the South for a reason. alphafemale Jul 2015 #24
Crazy Onkel Pat may be right. hifiguy Jul 2015 #26
It seems to me Dyedinthewoolliberal Jul 2015 #28
It would be nice not to ignore this racist, anti-semitic asshole still_one Jul 2015 #29
Haven't these people caused enough destruction in this country already?? Person 2713 Jul 2015 #32
I'm pretty sure between clinic bombings, other bombings, murdering doctors, Solly Mack Jul 2015 #33
Right. H2O Man Jul 2015 #40
A column of his inspired attacks on 3 clinics by John Brockhoeft (Army of God) Solly Mack Jul 2015 #41
And it would not surprise me if there are some rw idiots like Roof out there gearing up for the jwirr Jul 2015 #35
Home Of The Brave struggle4progress Jul 2015 #36
Sigh, why doesn't the Left ever lead a "secession of the heart"? nt daredtowork Jul 2015 #37
Oh Pat you're soooooooooooo butch ! olddots Jul 2015 #39
Oh dear god, he did not go there, did he? Initech Jul 2015 #42
Vile, disgusting an treasonous. On several levels. Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #43
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
2. Hopefully their "Days of Rage" will coincide with election season, and we, in the Unsilent Majority
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:53 PM
Jul 2015

...will be able to pick a brand new Congress as a result....

randys1

(16,286 posts)
4. That fucking gerrymandering CRIME of theirs is an outrage, did you know it takes two
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:54 PM
Jul 2015

democratic votes to one con vote to elect a house member?

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
6. Just a technicality until they can revert to GOP-run state legislatures picking Senators again...
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:56 PM
Jul 2015

...and they can dispense with the tattered pretense that we get to "vote" for anything at all...

abakan

(1,819 posts)
3. Civil disobedience
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:54 PM
Jul 2015

How is that different than what we have now? When did they obey anything they didn't want to or tried to get rid of?

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
5. Uh, didn't that already happen? When tens of thousands of them gathered in DC to demand Obama leave
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:56 PM
Jul 2015

the White House and surrender himself to stand trial?

I forget what it was called now....

It was such a historic and memorable event.......

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
25. Buying and using an illegal handgun is their idea of civil disobedience.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 07:15 PM
Jul 2015

And this is their kind of civil rights leader:



 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
7. Buchanan is invoking MLK? LOL
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:58 PM
Jul 2015

Buchanan would lynch MLK if he could.

That guy has white robes in his closet for sure.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
10. Really who is asking them to be obedient.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:00 PM
Jul 2015

To whom will they not obey? Curious just how do they do that?

BKH70041

(961 posts)
13. Conservatives don't do protest march type of civil disobedience.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:05 PM
Jul 2015

That's more of a liberal/progressive thing.

Conservatives tend to protest in other ways that aren't as much physically noticeable as they are economically noticeable and directed at certain activities they view to be undesirable.

 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
14. Knight of Malta and Reactionary Conservanazi.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:08 PM
Jul 2015

They put Hitler in power. We all know how that turned-out.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
15. Buchanan sure likes other people to go to war
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:12 PM
Jul 2015

When he had the opportunity, though, he decided his moral responsibility was to turn tail and run (but not very fast because he had an owwie knee).

JHB

(37,160 posts)
16. It's not the teachings of the 2K-years ago guy they base their "defiance" on...
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:13 PM
Jul 2015

...they're acting like the people that guy openly and repeatedly condemned.

Pat and his "defiers" worship Supply Side Jesus and Macho Jesus With Guns.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
18. Pat Buchanan 1992 speech will be long remembered as the end of the Republican party
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:22 PM
Jul 2015

The party of Eisenhower would never be the same again. The festering stink bug that is the modern Republican party is all that is left thanks to people like Pat. He killed the election for Bush Sr. The thing to remember is Pat has been saying this forever and instead of the civil war he thinks is coming, instead old bigots like him are slowly sinking without most of us much remembering them. His fears are baseless and no one wants to "die" to prevent gay marriage. They just don't, Pat.

H2O Man

(73,558 posts)
38. Extremely well said!
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:33 AM
Jul 2015

It is a pleasure to read posts like this. Thank you for this example of what's good on DU!

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
19. Buchanan would jump for joy if another McVeigh blew up another federal building
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:24 PM
Jul 2015

That's what he's fomenting.

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
21. I think he's right. Something is coming. I'm not sure what but something is going to happen.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:27 PM
Jul 2015

This history of this country is 2 steps forward and one step back.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
22. Here's Pat on Martin Luther King Jr, part of his advice to Nixon not to visit Dr King's widow which
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 07:03 PM
Jul 2015

he felt would “outrage many, many people who believe Dr. King was a fraud and a demagogue and perhaps worse…. Others consider him the Devil incarnate. Dr. King is one of the most divisive men in contemporary history.”

Let me add Pat Buchanan's words about the Confederate Flag, in a dust up with Carol Mosley Brown in 1993:
" “The War Between the States was about independence, about self-determination, about the right of a people to break free of a government to which they could no longer give allegiance. How long is this endless groveling before every cry of ‘racism’ going to continue before the whole country collectively throws up?"

http://fair.org/press-release/pat-buchanan-in-his-own-words/

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
26. Crazy Onkel Pat may be right.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 07:18 PM
Jul 2015

But the reichwing loons are dumber than bricks no matter how heavily armed they are, and to quote Dean Wormer from Animal House, fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life. They should be pretty easy to shoot if it comes to that.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,575 posts)
28. It seems to me
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 07:19 PM
Jul 2015

The conservatives have been at war with the rest of us for a long time. They are always looking for the next big outrage, the next terrible, horrible lurch to the left that never comes.
It's tiring really.

Solly Mack

(90,769 posts)
33. I'm pretty sure between clinic bombings, other bombings, murdering doctors,
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 08:28 PM
Jul 2015

and massacring African-Americans for being African-Americans, as well as attacking and murdering LGBT people, and the many assaults on women and women's rights, that the world is already aware of the lengths the American right-wing will go to spread their, ah...beliefs hate.

H2O Man

(73,558 posts)
40. Right.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:44 AM
Jul 2015

You raise a very important point on a huge topic. And I think that it sheds light on why a paleoconservative like Buchanan was opposed the the Bush wars in Iraq, but seems eager for open warfare in the streets of America's cities.

When you look at a list such as the one you provide here, it is apparent that these types of violent crimes -- which he appears to consider so common place that they do not warrant mention in his desired war -- all tend to involve attacking victims considered unlikely to fight back.

Good post, Friend Solly Mack. Thank you.

Solly Mack

(90,769 posts)
41. A column of his inspired attacks on 3 clinics by John Brockhoeft (Army of God)
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 01:50 AM
Jul 2015

He said that Anders Breivik may be right. Breivik murdered 77 people in Norway because he hated Muslims and "multiculturalism". That both were destroying white, Christian Europe.

Right up Pat's alley.

Pat's a racist, straight up. P.B. knows exactly what he's doing and saying - and he wants his words to inspire violence.

He also wants to pretend that he is merely an observer and a pundit that simply comments on events. He does so, always assuming he can't be touched and will never himself be harmed. He would deny any connection between his nationwide voice and those he inspires.

I think he counts on our not retaliating. He counts on the compassion and empathy of the victims and their family and friends. He knows our actions are driven by our belief in things like equality and justice. Believing thusly, we'd behave in a certain way. He counts on it.

He also knows his audience and he knows how to arouse them.





jwirr

(39,215 posts)
35. And it would not surprise me if there are some rw idiots like Roof out there gearing up for the
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:54 PM
Jul 2015

first shot. Pat Buchanan is a royal idiot. We have just had a kid kill 9 beautiful Christians in order to start a race war and this idiot insights more violence calling for more of the same. And at a time of high stress in our nation when SC moved in a truly peaceful manner. Instead Pat wants more "war". Wonder how many fools sent him some more money tonight?

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
43. Vile, disgusting an treasonous. On several levels.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 03:00 AM
Jul 2015

Also, Pat is well on his way to Hell. - Or at the very least, I hope that I may never see him again in the life hereafter. Because that would be Hell for me.

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