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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 06:16 PM Jul 2015

US Workers Duped By Job Mobility Myth.

The brutal truth about job mobility is that it is a lie or a myth. American workers have been told that they will have multiple careers during their work life. The real problem with that bullshit is that it means that workers are convinced that they will be "free agents" or "entrepreneurs" in a free employment market. What they have been told sounds tempting. You will be able to create your own increasing value as a worker by going to school or retraining multiple times and you will prosper and become rich. You will be able to work at careers of your choice and do what you enjoy.

The trouble is that as a worker you will have to figure it out on your own at your own expense. You will spent a large amount of your time going to school for you entire life. You will have to go to endless auditions or job interviews and you will find thousands of employers who want you like a star athlete and will be in great demand. Of course you will have to survive with periods of time on low or no income. And you may even have to go backward once in a while.

Now in all my years at DOL one thing was obvious about this employer manufactured garbage. Such a methodology only works for a small part of the working population. Most workers do not have the time or economic resources to make such strategy to work.
In all my years at DOL most workers only wanted one thing and that was a steady job with growth potential. They did not want to be super mobile going from employer to employer like a nomad in the desert. And having a life with a family is virtually impossible under such circumstances.

Being like an actor or athlete who must be constantly on the move and essentially auditioning all the time takes a psychological toll on most people. And the real ugly truth about this myth is that with age or declining health you LOSE your marketability And in today's market "older workers" as young as 40 are no longer employable at a decent salary. And with no retirement funds workers end up broke and broken. The NEW BUSINESS MODEL is to get rid of workers before they get too expensive. And you are gone in the years you should be making more money and need it the most.

Plus employers have all the control over workers' future. By keeping workers moving and constantly wanting they cannot organize or negotiate for better working conditions. They have to take what they are given. Plus employers no longer really have to train workers. They are expected to be a complete package immediately.

Now our "new economy" probably does work for quite a few individuals but it does not work for the vast majority. Without an economy like the old model that meant CONTINUITY OF EMPLOYMENT AND CONTINUITY OF INCOME WITH CAREER GROWTH the working class is doomed to the "employment gauntlet".

Saying that jobs will not longer be long term is really bullshit that only serves the work grist mill. This myth was sold beginning with the Reagan Revolution and supported by politicians who have a permanent job for life. Look at how many have full retirement and life insurance.


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US Workers Duped By Job Mobility Myth. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Jul 2015 OP
Employers want the 'star' employees, but the average employee is ... average. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #1
This was the so called new Wellstone ruled Jul 2015 #2
Training for good jobs is expensive daredtowork Jul 2015 #3
Many employers do NOT want too much experience PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #4
Great post. Thanks for telling it like it is. n/t pnwmom Jul 2015 #5
The Old Employment System That Offered Long Term Employment Worked. TheMastersNemesis Jul 2015 #6
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2015 #7
"Going back to School" is simply a way to warehouse unemployed workers n2doc Jul 2015 #8
That wouldn't be so bad if people were paid to attend school. hunter Jul 2015 #9

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
1. Employers want the 'star' employees, but the average employee is ... average.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 07:09 PM
Jul 2015

And even the below average employees still need jobs, and aren't going to become 'stars', no matter how many times they retrain.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. This was the so called new
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 07:19 PM
Jul 2015

Paradigm Theory of the Early Nineteen Seventies. Workers would have to be flexible as well as mobile. Do remember Corporate running so called Managers Training Courses to be able to pick and chose our new hires. My question to the Corporate so called Trainer was,so now we are to hire the new hot shot coming through the door providing he lives in a Mobile Home. So much for that Management Job. Best vertical move I ever made. There is just so much Stupid one can endure.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
3. Training for good jobs is expensive
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:10 PM
Jul 2015

And while you're REtraining, people are also expected to absorb all the housing-and-food costs themselves. However, Federal student loan support is only there for you the first time around when you go to college.

This is the trap that long-term unemployed people face later. There are sources who might assist you with re-training. The government has been throwing money at employment. People practically scold you for not taking advantage of it. However, a training program requires a certain time commitment in which you must have food and housing. Just as much as the government wants to throw employment help at you to prove it's helping you seek work, they have been avidly withholding assistance from housing to make sure you don't become "dependent" on government. You have to have a job in order to have housing. But if you have a job you can't have the training. In fact, many training programs, like those associated with the Workforce Incentive Act, say they will not give you job search support and training assistance at the same time because they know you can't make a commitment to both. So because the government can't let you have housing, then you can't commit to a training program. The only people who can commit to re-training later in life are people who had savings or a family to support them, or had the credit (and willingness) to take out the loans.

And economists expect people to do this in a serial basis? To foot the bill, time, and energy for repeated re-training to accommodate ourselves to an employer that perfectly fits into some perfectly theorized market system? This is ridiculous?

And at the end of it all, what ends up happening is society radically splits between the people who can't even make a living by working in the normal way (and everyone knows it), and the people who make hundreds of thousands of dollars by getting in on some investment or some inside government knowledge. This is the difference between the people who being forced to fit in and the people who are sitting comfortably outside the system and just have to make a few phone calls to get things done.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
4. Many employers do NOT want too much experience
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:14 PM
Jul 2015

With that experience come thoughts which may fall out of the management's direction. I see most companies are looking for "yes men" style employees. Easier to create that with the blank slate of fresh college grad.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
6. The Old Employment System That Offered Long Term Employment Worked.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 01:17 AM
Jul 2015

The Reagan Revolution destroyed the "social contract" between employer and employee. Unless we go back to that kind of system the future is bleak for workers. The multiple jobs model is a "dead end" economically for 80% of the work force. You will end up in misery and poverty over the long term. Retirement will be just about impossible. And if you get ill or something else happen you are finished because the system the GOP wants to create offer NO help at all.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
8. "Going back to School" is simply a way to warehouse unemployed workers
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 09:12 AM
Jul 2015

at their own expense. It artificially creates the impression that there are fewer people seeking jobs (lowering unemployment rate) while doing next to nothing for the workers except wasting productive years of their lives.

There are jobs worth getting trained for, but IMHO those jobs are not what the 'adult education' industry is training people for.

hunter

(38,313 posts)
9. That wouldn't be so bad if people were paid to attend school.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:37 PM
Jul 2015

We worship "productivity," which is a grave mistake. "Economic productivity" as it is now defined is a direct measure of the damage we do to this planet and the human spirit. We are killing our planet and ourselves.

I think education ought to be free for life so everyone can maximize their own potential. Zero illiteracy, zero innumeracy, zero artlessness, zero scientific illiteracy.

Certain tracks of education ought to come with pay beyond "starving student" support. If education is free for life, then we will need more teachers and college professors.

Pay students to go to school and become teachers and professors. Pay students who are learning how to care for of others and the planet; primary care physicians, nurses, environmental remediation biologists and engineers. Pay all the people who will learn how to create sustainable, comfortable, low birth rate, low energy communities. Pay people who will figure out how to cope with accelerating climate change.

Modern civilization is building a highway to hell. We need to stop.

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