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Panich52

(5,829 posts)
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:06 PM Jul 2015

Verizon Threatens To Disconnect NJ Landline Customer Unless They Switch To Fiber

Consumerist

Verizon Threatens To Disconnect NJ Landline Customer Unless They Switch To Fiber

Copper wire is expensive and old-fashioned. Phone companies don’t want to maintain or use it anymore. Still, some customers like their reliable old land-lines, and the law creates certain obligations for phone companies to provide and maintain them. But Verizon is apparently so sick and tired of providing plain old telephone service that they’re threatening to disconnect customers who don’t “voluntarily” upgrade to fiber A.S.A.P.
Local media outlet NJ TV News is reporting that a resident in northern New Jersey is receiving disconnection threats from Verizon. It’s not that she hasn’t paid her bills; it’s that Verizon just isn’t interested in providing her phone service anymore — unless she lets them come run fiber to her house.

The customer received a letter dated May 15 saying that “services will be suspended on or after 45 days from the date of this letter, if you do not allow Verizon reasonable access to your premises … to move your service to our fiber-optic network.”

“Once your service is suspended,” it continued, “you will only be able to call 9-1-1 and our customer service number … 14 days after being suspended, Verizon service at your address will be disconnected.”

The customer contacted the NJ Division of Rate Counsel, a state-level agency that represents consumer interests in dealing with utility companies (including cable and telecom services). The division has filed a petition with New Jersey’s Board of Public Utilities, asking the Board to investigate the letter.

The director of the Division, Stefanie Brand, told NJTV News she thought the letter was “pretty heavy-handed,” and added, “We were shocked. We thought this was clearly a violation of a bunch of state statutes and certainly Verizon’s obligation to be the provider of last resort.”

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Verizon Threatens To Disconnect NJ Landline Customer Unless They Switch To Fiber (Original Post) Panich52 Jul 2015 OP
And 99.9% of the time, the customer "service" line will be busy. nt LiberalEsto Jul 2015 #1
This is what you get with unregulated mosteropolies. TexasProgresive Jul 2015 #2
Verizon is a megacorp. They will do what they want, when they want. lpbk2713 Jul 2015 #3
Our tiny little Teclo/cable/internet provider did pretty much the same back in 2012 tech3149 Jul 2015 #4
Fiber is a good thing LittleBlue Jul 2015 #5
Not a replacement zipplewrath Jul 2015 #7
If they do that to me, they'll lose a customer for good. MineralMan Jul 2015 #6

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
2. This is what you get with unregulated mosteropolies.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:18 PM
Jul 2015

When the telecommunications companies were regulated monopolies they were required to give service no matter where in their serving area. There were other regulations that protected the subscribers. Now it is just a free for all with them gouging the customers in new and innovative ways.

I'm confident that Christie's New Jersey Board of Public Utilities will right this terrible wrong.

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
3. Verizon is a megacorp. They will do what they want, when they want.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:37 PM
Jul 2015


They didn't grease all those palms in the FCC and the various state public utility commissions to let the little guy get one over on them. The telcos have their lawyers prepare the laws for the people who are supposed to oversee them. And the way the process works ... the telcos see something that needs to be changed in their favor, they have their whiz kids write up the new laws and they hand them in for the governing bodies to rubber stamp them. BINGO. It's a new law.




We don't care about your silly little problems.
We don't have to. We are the telephone company.


tech3149

(4,452 posts)
4. Our tiny little Teclo/cable/internet provider did pretty much the same back in 2012
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:41 PM
Jul 2015

I entirely understand the logic behind the move. I think Verizon went more than a bit too far. We were given the option of maintaining the copper pair at about a $3 a month charge. I thought that was a pretty strong arm tactic but I couldn't justify spending more for a marginal service who's only benefit is a path for communications in times of extended power outage.
The backup power provided for the fiber interface is only 8 hrs, Telco central office is mandated to provide 48 hrs. I've already dealt with that situation a time or two.
Not long after the change a wind storm ripped the interface termination and fiber from the side of the house. The copper pair that had been in place at least all of my 60 something years ant withstood much worse conditions. My only options to correct the damage was to wait for a neighbor to be home or walk two miles to report the problem.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
5. Fiber is a good thing
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:42 PM
Jul 2015

The world is moving to fiber. They don't want to pay to maintain obsolete communication networks, which is understandable.

I side with Verizon on this one.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
7. Not a replacement
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:59 PM
Jul 2015

Fiber isn't a replacement for my land line. My land line works even in a total power outage. It's basically the only reason I still HAVE a land line. Switching it to fiber would pretty much terminate the reason for the service. If Verizon doesn't want to be in land line business, they should get out.

MineralMan

(146,325 posts)
6. If they do that to me, they'll lose a customer for good.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:50 PM
Jul 2015

I keep a POTS line in place primarily for emergencies. I have cell service, and would simply switch over to it.

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