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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts) Thu Jul 16, 2015, 12:51 AM Jul 2015

No More Wars Unless Rich Kids Go Too. War With Iran Would Be Bigger Disaster Than Iraq.

The GOP seems to be content to send kids to war. The trouble is that many of these soldiers are from middle and lower class. You never see the well to do in a uniform. We should reinstate the draft with no exemptions if another war is pursued.

It is too easy to send our volunteer forces to war because so few Americans have anyone in that game. "Support Our Troops" is just empty rhetoric and pseudo patriotic bravado. We just don't put our money into taking care of the wounded and disabled when the true cost comes. How many families are taking care of vets who are totally disabled and require 24 hour care.

There are so many reasons not to serve now because of how vets are now treated. And troops are dying to protect the assets of the rich when you really analyze the situation.

And it is bothersome that we will have vitriol over the Iran deal. And you can see the MSM aiding and abetting a push for war at a fever pitch. Now all the hawks are out spreading fear and terror.

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No More Wars Unless Rich Kids Go Too. War With Iran Would Be Bigger Disaster Than Iraq. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Jul 2015 OP

if the draft is to be reinstated, pick up with the last number pulled in 1971 Scootaloo Jul 2015 #1

My sons are pretty much too old to be caught in a draft SheilaT Jul 2015 #2

No more wars. Period. pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #3

I oppose the draft. SamKnause Jul 2015 #4

The richest 20% enlist at a higher rate than the poorest 20% Recursion Jul 2015 #5

I agree, but the rich still 'own' the government, so we can forget about 'fairness'in a draft system dmosh42 Jul 2015 #6

You wont see that leftynyc Jul 2015 #7

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)

1. if the draft is to be reinstated, pick up with the last number pulled in 1971

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jul 16, 2015, 12:59 AM

Jul 2015

And as you say. No exceptions, no deferments.

Don't send the "rich kids." Send their fucking parents who want the war in the first place.

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)

2. My sons are pretty much too old to be caught in a draft

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jul 16, 2015, 01:07 AM

Jul 2015

as they are now 28 and 32, but I want to say that I oppose a draft totally. This is NOTHING like WWII, where the draft was a great equalizer and we were pretty much fighting to save civilization as we knew it.

These days? The various wars this country is fighting? Fuck all of them. They cannot have my sons. Those who wish to volunteer, fine, but do NOT ever expect me to thank you for your service. You served in a totally illegal and immoral war, and I will NEVER thank you for that.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)

3. No more wars. Period.

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jul 16, 2015, 01:15 AM

Jul 2015

Fuck the warmongers, most of whom are chickenhawks.

Vietnam draftee US 56704xxx, O5354xxx, 547-74-xxxx. My three service numbers. Vietnam vet retired from the Army for 50% combat disability. RIP, brothers.

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)

4. I oppose the draft.

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jul 16, 2015, 01:32 AM

Jul 2015

Poor people should not be forced to fight wars for the elites.

If someone wants to volunteer, that is their decision.

Send the politicians (and ALL of their family members) that vote for war to

the front lines.

Send the owners of corporations (the war profiteers and ALL of their

family members) to the front lines.

Send all the people on Wall Street (and ALL of their family members)

who profit from wars to the front lines.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)

5. The richest 20% enlist at a higher rate than the poorest 20%

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jul 16, 2015, 03:46 AM

Jul 2015

On average the enlisted military is somewhat richer and better educated than the US as a whole (officers are much richer and better educated than the US as a whole).

It's actually pretty hard to qualify for enlistment if you're very poor.

dmosh42

(2,217 posts)

6. I agree, but the rich still 'own' the government, so we can forget about 'fairness'in a draft system

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jul 16, 2015, 05:11 AM

Jul 2015

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)

7. You wont see that

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jul 16, 2015, 05:25 AM

Jul 2015

ever unless there are not enough volunteers to do the job.

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