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struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:08 PM Jul 2015

New Hampshire Municipal Worker Told to Take Confederate Flag off Truck

Updated 7 minutes ago

A municipal employee in the small New Hampshire town of Canaan can no longer fly a Confederate flag from his pickup truck while on town property.

Canaan Town Administrator Mike Samson says he instructed transfer station manager J.R. Defrosse to take his flag down, saying it has a decades-long association with resisting desegregation.

Defrosse tells the Valley News he attached it to his truck to protest the South Carolina Legislature's removal of the flag from outside its statehouse. He says South Carolina's decision should not mean other states must do the same.

Defrosse says Samson showed him a town ordinance that prohibits the expression of political views by town employees on town property. He has since taken down the flag ...


http://www.necn.com/news/new-england/New-Hampshire-Municipal-Worker-Told-to-Take-Confederate-Flag-off-Truck-315909711.html

This is just outrageous! Suddenly everybody wants to forget those glorious days of yore when New Hampshire was the pride of the Confederacy! What's next? Will we also forget how Germany bombed Pearl Harbor? Wake up, people!

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New Hampshire Municipal Worker Told to Take Confederate Flag off Truck (Original Post) struggle4progress Jul 2015 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #1
Makes sense to me yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #6
I think you may be right but I hope not. yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #8
Or maybe, just maybe, bigotry occurs everywhere. nt. Hosnon Jul 2015 #3
Bigotry certainly does, but... Orrex Jul 2015 #9
They can find lots of open space and few nosy neighbors down around the South Pole struggle4progress Jul 2015 #5
Well, I was going to say it's his right to express his personal beliefs. ladyVet Jul 2015 #4
Must be in southern New Hampshire. KamaAina Jul 2015 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #10
I see that on the map. KamaAina Jul 2015 #12
Oh wait! cwydro Jul 2015 #11
There is an entire abandoned gas station full of Dixie Swastikas/Racist Sanitary Napkins in Ohio. KamaAina Jul 2015 #13
And I've read numerous other stories here and elsewhere cwydro Jul 2015 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #16
That is my town also. jen63 Jul 2015 #15
It's like the early/mid 90s Cosmocat Jul 2015 #17
I have to support the racist here... catnhatnh Jul 2015 #18
NH town official says worker can display Confederate flag struggle4progress Jul 2015 #19

Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
2. Makes sense to me
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:16 PM
Jul 2015

The owner can put it back on when they leave work. For the next year we will see the confederate flag more then ever before all over the country but it will eventually fade away to rare again.

Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #2)

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
8. I think you may be right but I hope not.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:24 PM
Jul 2015

Or I hope these next months all of us talk to everyone we know and express our displeasure and reasons for removing the flag from everywhere forever.

Orrex

(63,219 posts)
9. Bigotry certainly does, but...
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:24 PM
Jul 2015

The baffling thing for many of us north o' the Mason-Dixon is how our fellow state residents can claim to feel such kinship with the Confederacy.

So although you're absolutely correct that bigotry is everywhere, the curious fondness for the pre-1865 South would seem wildly out of place geographically, at least.

ladyVet

(1,587 posts)
4. Well, I was going to say it's his right to express his personal beliefs.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:18 PM
Jul 2015

Then I saw there was an ordinance against such expressions (political) on town property, so I guess the town is in the right on that.

Maybe he can make/buy a magnetic flag and take it off when he's working. I despise the flag, but I stand by a person's right to free expression, no matter how nasty it may be.

Response to KamaAina (Reply #7)

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
12. I see that on the map.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:26 PM
Jul 2015

The joke is about why anyone in New Hampshire would be flying the Dixie Swastika (or do you prefer Racist Sanitary Napkin? ).

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
13. There is an entire abandoned gas station full of Dixie Swastikas/Racist Sanitary Napkins in Ohio.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:28 PM
Jul 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026978009

Go figure.

edit: Kind of puts paid to that "Southern heritage" copout, doesn't it?
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
14. And I've read numerous other stories here and elsewhere
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:32 PM
Jul 2015

of incidents with the flag in PA, SD, NE, IA, and IL.

And one DUer posted about one up in New England recently.

The south-haters here should take note. There are racists everywhere.

I have yet to see a single one of those flags in NC or SC in my travels across both states, with the exception of a guy on a motorcycle, who had it on the back of his jacket.

His license place was from Ohio.

Response to cwydro (Reply #14)

jen63

(813 posts)
15. That is my town also.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:33 PM
Jul 2015

When I was a kid it was our town's honor to be part of the underground railroad. That's how far off the rails we've gone.....

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
17. It's like the early/mid 90s
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:50 PM
Jul 2015

when you had these suburban and rural white kids wearing red and blue bandanas and flashing hand signs ...

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
18. I have to support the racist here...
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:52 PM
Jul 2015

who will now be perfectly correct when he suggests that no town employee can park at their workplaces with political bumper stickers....you know-like for Bernie and Hillary. I find his views repugnant but I think the original rule was more likely meant for apparel than for transport and really does infringe on the first.

struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
19. NH town official says worker can display Confederate flag
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 03:15 PM
Jul 2015

Posted: Jul 17, 2015 1:23 PM EDT
Updated: Jul 17, 2015 1:26 PM EDT

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) - A New Hampshire town administrator at the center of a dispute over the Confederate battle flag says the town will drop its policy barring political statements by workers when they are on the clock ... Samson on Monday asked DeFosse to stop displaying a Confederate flag on his personal vehicle during work hours. Defosse told the Valley News that he was protesting South Carolina's decision to remove the flag from its statehouse following the shooting of nine people. Samson says a state law protecting political speech by state and municipal employees prompted the shift. He says Defosse told him he won't display the flag and apologized for the disruption he caused.

http://www.wcax.com/story/29573493/nh-town-official-says-worker-can-display-confederate-flag

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