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Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:21 PM Jul 2015

Research finds lead is the hidden villain behind violent crime, lower IQs, & even the ADHD epidemic

A small chunk of the US war budget could easily pay for the lead removal program proposed by this article.

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/01/lead-crime-link-gasoline?page=2

America's Real Criminal Element: Lead
New research finds Pb is the hidden villain behind violent crime, lower IQs, and even the ADHD epidemic. And fixing the problem is a lot cheaper than doing nothing.

—By Kevin Drum | January/February 2013 Issue

IF ECONOMETRIC STUDIES WERE ALL THERE were to the story of lead, you'd be justified in remaining skeptical no matter how good the statistics look. Even when researchers do their best—controlling for economic growth, welfare payments, race, income, education level, and everything else they can think of—it's always possible that something they haven't thought of is still lurking in the background. But there's another reason to take the lead hypothesis seriously, and it might be the most compelling one of all: Neurological research is demonstrating that lead's effects are even more appalling, more permanent, and appear at far lower levels than we ever thought. For starters, it turns out that childhood lead exposure at nearly any level can seriously and permanently reduce IQ. Blood lead levels are measured in micrograms per deciliter, and levels once believed safe—65 ?g/dL, then 25, then 15, then 10—are now known to cause serious damage. The EPA now says flatly that there is "no demonstrated safe concentration of lead in blood," and it turns out that even levels under 10 ?g/dL can reduce IQ by as much as seven points. An estimated 2.5 percent of children nationwide have lead levels above 5 ?g/dL.

High childhood exposure damages a part of the brain linked to aggression control and "executive functions." And the impact turns out to be greater among boys.
One set of scans found that lead exposure is linked to production of the brain's white matter—primarily a substance called myelin, which forms an insulating sheath around the connections between neurons. Lead exposure degrades both the formation and structure of myelin, and when this happens, says Kim Dietrich, one of the leaders of the imaging studies, "neurons are not communicating effectively." Put simply, the network connections within the brain become both slower and less coordinated.

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Everyone over the age of 40 was probably exposed to too much lead during childhood, and most of us suffered nothing more than a few points of IQ loss. But there were plenty of kids already on the margin, and millions of those kids were pushed over the edge from being merely slow or disruptive to becoming part of a nationwide epidemic of violent crime. Once you understand that, it all becomes blindingly obvious. Of course massive lead exposure among children of the postwar era led to larger numbers of violent criminals in the '60s and beyond. And of course when that lead was removed in the '70s and '80s, the children of that generation lost those artificially heightened violent tendencies.

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Wrong. As it turns out, tetraethyl lead is like a zombie that refuses to die. Our cars may be lead-free today, but they spent more than 50 years spewing lead from their tailpipes, and all that lead had to go somewhere. And it did: It settled permanently into the soil that we walk on, grow our food in, and let our kids play around.

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It's difficult to put firm numbers to the costs and benefits of lead abatement. But for a rough idea, let's start with the two biggest costs. Nevin estimates that there are perhaps 16 million pre-1960 houses with lead-painted windows, and replacing them all would cost something like $10 billion per year over 20 years. Soil cleanup in the hardest-hit urban neighborhoods is tougher to get a handle on, with estimates ranging from $2 to $36 per square foot. A rough extrapolation from Mielke's estimate to clean up New Orleans suggests that a nationwide program might cost another $10 billion per year.

So in round numbers that's about $20 billion per year for two decades. But the benefits would be huge. Let's just take a look at the two biggest ones. By Mielke and Zahran's estimates, if we adopted the soil standard of a country like Norway (roughly 100 ppm or less), it would bring about $30 billion in annual returns from the cognitive benefits alone (higher IQs, and the resulting higher lifetime earnings). Cleaning up old windows might double this. And violent crime reduction would be an even bigger benefit. Estimates here are even more difficult, but Mark Kleiman suggests that a 10 percent drop in crime—a goal that seems reasonable if we get serious about cleaning up the last of our lead problem—could produce benefits as high as $150 billion per year.

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Research finds lead is the hidden villain behind violent crime, lower IQs, & even the ADHD epidemic (Original Post) Karmadillo Jul 2015 OP
Probably holds true for many metals, as well. Octafish Jul 2015 #1
Of course we knew what Gulf War Syndrome was and ignored it. Rex Jul 2015 #30
And insecticides. hunter Jul 2015 #31
Atrios has been documenting this for quite some time gratuitous Jul 2015 #2
I had a teacher in college in the 1990's in a child development class kimbutgar Jul 2015 #3
The author makes a good case for the economic justification of a cleanup. Scuba Jul 2015 #4
Freddie Gray had been exposed to lead. KamaAina Jul 2015 #5
Mother Jones sometimes gets things right. In part. Igel Jul 2015 #6
Thanks for that information. that was insightful as well as enlightening. :) nt Javaman Jul 2015 #9
The large scale effect is likely hard to argue about PATRICK Jul 2015 #11
Lots of lead in coal. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #7
Lead in house paint was banned in 1978. SheilaT Jul 2015 #8
Those poisoned with lead in the 50's to 70's walk among us, and DNA has a memory. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #14
" So I suspect that there just isn't all that much environmental lead out there. " Chakab Jul 2015 #15
Which is all mentioned in the study and conclusions, if one cared to be informed. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #16
Those aren't the only sources of lead..... llmart Jul 2015 #17
Serious issue for child development, however, the effect on crime mentalslavery Jul 2015 #10
Easy answers to fit an agenda are not helpful loyalsister Jul 2015 #12
Gun ranges using lead bullets were and are a known source of high levels of aerosol lead contamination....explains a lot. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #13
So, if all that about the prevalence of lead is true, then ... ananda Jul 2015 #18
Interesting point. smirkymonkey Jul 2015 #19
Appears to have no affect. That doesn't mean there is no affect kcr Jul 2015 #24
I used to chew on lead pencils, owned guns with lead ammo. You're gonna laugh at me, but guns... ancianita Jul 2015 #20
Lead posioning by ammo is well known and researched. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #21
Great. I've run across this, but never hear gun owners talk about it, and I know a lot of them. ancianita Jul 2015 #22
Gun owners have no special magical knowledge of guns, upon purchase. What is there to know? Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #23
I've spent thousands of hours soldering with 60/40 tin/lead solder over 2 decades IDemo Jul 2015 #25
Yes, but a real cleanup would leave Fox News with no viewers. nt valerief Jul 2015 #26
The Secret History of Lead--corporations knowingly poisoning us for profit. Karmadillo Jul 2015 #27
Let me add to the discussion nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #28
Obama's lead abatement work in Chicago was what interested me in his campaign initially Recursion Jul 2015 #29

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
1. Probably holds true for many metals, as well.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:25 PM
Jul 2015

Mercury, for instance.

Thank you for the heads-up, Karmadillo. Very important article for people who care about other people and their health.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
30. Of course we knew what Gulf War Syndrome was and ignored it.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:19 AM
Jul 2015

Now the govt says shipping poultry to who knows where (to be cut up...oh yeah that is some fresh chicken) to save 2 pennies on the dollar and risk your health and your families health.

And they pretend they give us free healthcare. I don't want to begin to think about how much garbage is in the fish I eat nowdays.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Atrios has been documenting this for quite some time
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:31 PM
Jul 2015

He asserts that the drop in violent crime statistics over the last 20 years or so may be due in significant part to the abatement of lead in our environment. Start digging it out of the soil, and we might have even more salutary effects. Well, "salutary" being a relative term: It might mean fewer lives thrown away into the criminal justice system, and with fewer bodies behind bars, some industrial concerns might have a tough time making ends meet.

kimbutgar

(21,172 posts)
3. I had a teacher in college in the 1990's in a child development class
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:38 PM
Jul 2015

Who said a large majority of people in jail had learning disability problems. I never forgot her insight. She was spot on.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
4. The author makes a good case for the economic justification of a cleanup.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:44 PM
Jul 2015

The moral justification is even more compelling.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
5. Freddie Gray had been exposed to lead.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:59 PM
Jul 2015

The resulting disabilities likely led to his fatal confrontation with Baltimore cops.

Igel

(35,332 posts)
6. Mother Jones sometimes gets things right. In part.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 03:18 PM
Jul 2015

Here there are gaps.

The estimates for houses with lead-based paint is also probably highly inflated. They go for maximum poutrage, and here you have it: Many have been gentrified, windows replaced to be more efficient, or otherwise refurbished. Moreover, the lead that's just sitting there is like the asbestos in a lot of buildings that's just sitting there: As long as it's not disturbed it's not in your lungs or bloodstream.


Most of the lead from cars is still in soil, and is inorganic, with a lot of it by now just being PbO or some complex with PbO. But most of it landed within a dozen yards or less of the roads, almost all within a couple dozen yards--and at that point was in the top foot or so. Most farm acreage doesn't need remediation, and most of what's taken up by plants winds up in leaves. Complicating matters is that soil pH matters a lot (most are fairly neutral, and lead isn't taken up much) and that organic matter binds lead "permanently" (since that organic stuff decays, let's understand that to mean "for a long time.&quot If there are storm drains, a lot of the lead winds up there, and then in streams and rivers. It's fairly insoluble and once covered will tend to stay that way until it's disturbed by, say, construction or a flood.


This is old news. It's been around for over a decade. Most of the effects have been factored out or generalized by now (and weren't new, then: ceramics, pottery, pewter, crystal all contained hefty amounts of lead; those rich people in the 19th century would have been ingesting more than most poor kids in the '50s; and we won't mention all the medicines that contained Hg).

Here's a decent summary quantifying IQ loss v blood serum lead concentration, and pointing out some of the methological pitfalls. http://www.scielosp.org/scielo.php?pid=S0042-96862000000900003&script=sci_arttext

What a lot of the studies fail to point out is what happens in more fine-grained approaches with larger data sets. Yeah, you look at urban violence and minority test scores, it looks like there's a huge influence of lead from paint and cars. But then you look at distribution within the US, small towns and various states, and that correlation weakens quite a bit, with similar expected Pb concentrations correlated in one way in one place and not correlated in another. Makes life tough for epidemiologists, and those pitfalls in that PDF are worth noticing.

PATRICK

(12,228 posts)
11. The large scale effect is likely hard to argue about
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 04:52 PM
Jul 2015

In Rochester NY lead paint abatement and working on the inner city homes has been going on a long long time. Beside whatever environmental effects the distribution of lead might cause, kids actually ingesting the old paint(still there in some old poor inner city homes after it was discontinued in 1978) is still a problem and the more dramatic connecting the dots seemed to make a lot more sense. Some just slapped safe paint over lead paint layers for a while, lengthening out the actual removal process. Incrementally all the lead pollution is likely worse in the inner city but the kids who ate paint chips seemed to show clear results, which is largely what all the abatement was about. The long term poisoning linked to IQ violence etc. only after the warnings and removal programs went on for decades. The richer suburbs live in newer harms with better air in general, newer water systems etc etc. Added to all the social advantages.

In any event, getting rid of toxins in the environment seems to make sense.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
8. Lead in house paint was banned in 1978.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 04:33 PM
Jul 2015

And lead has been removed from gasoline for a couple of decades or so now.

So I suspect that there just isn't all that much environmental lead out there.

Plus, trying to pin a very wide variety of ailments on one single source is very close to magical thinking.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
15. " So I suspect that there just isn't all that much environmental lead out there. "
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 05:18 PM
Jul 2015

Depends on where you live.

Lead paint and pipes are still prevalent in low income areas that are rife with violence like much of Baltimore.


http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/baltimores-toxic-legacy-of-lead-paint/

There are hundreds of thousands of children being exposed to lead as we speak.

llmart

(15,545 posts)
17. Those aren't the only sources of lead.....
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 05:22 PM
Jul 2015

Cars use lead wheel weights for the tires. Only a few states have banned them and then, only on new vehicles. Some people melt the weights down and make bullets out of them or sinkers for fishing. I read an estimate that over 2,000 tons of lead wheel weights are lost on the highways per year.

 

mentalslavery

(463 posts)
10. Serious issue for child development, however, the effect on crime
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 04:49 PM
Jul 2015

is overstated and subject to social factors. Most criminologists would agree that a marginally lower IQ puts the individual in a situation in which others can easily convince them to engage in risk-taking or criminal behavior compared to those at a "normal" level. However, an individual with a lower IQ needs to have that influence in their life for this to be a factor.

In terms of health though, I see reason for a real concern. Scary to have kids these days with all the environmental hazards

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
12. Easy answers to fit an agenda are not helpful
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 05:01 PM
Jul 2015

But, the truth is that black youth are 200% more likely to be diagnosed with a learning disability, and our prisons are filled with people who have psychiatric disorders.
The biases that drive the initial diagnoses have led to many flawed understandings of disability.

There is enough justification for embracing efforts to create clean environments (built and natural) without making intellectually lazy claims.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
13. Gun ranges using lead bullets were and are a known source of high levels of aerosol lead contamination....explains a lot.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 05:14 PM
Jul 2015

ananda

(28,870 posts)
18. So, if all that about the prevalence of lead is true, then ...
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 05:22 PM
Jul 2015

... how do they account for the many millions of boys who do not
turn into violent criminals but are instead good, loving people?

And don't even get me started on why lead appears to have
practically no effect on girls.

See the problem?

kcr

(15,318 posts)
24. Appears to have no affect. That doesn't mean there is no affect
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:58 PM
Jul 2015

Lots of women find out they had ADHD all along and finally get a dx because the symptoms are often different for girls, or doctors assume it's a diagnosis for boys and they're overlooked.

ancianita

(36,128 posts)
20. I used to chew on lead pencils, owned guns with lead ammo. You're gonna laugh at me, but guns...
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 06:53 PM
Jul 2015

300 million guns that use lead bullets probably doesn't help, either. It's a hidden toxic factor in many gun owners' environments. It contaminates hunting food, as well.

Gun owning families have that dust flying around in their gun/ammo storage areas ... they get contaminated from handling all those bullets; so much lead dust and ammunition lies and floats around shooting areas and homes, too.

Go ahead and laugh, but someday this will come to light. Just because some people are wising up and banning lead ammo, doesn't mean that idiots aren't going to fight this as unconstitutional, or keep using what they already have stored. Lead ammo sales are the cheapest for poorer people who hunt, so perhaps there could be a national ammo exchange set up to exchange lead bullets for other kinds, but don't count on the wary gun owner to come forward.

Seriously. Lead ammo should be a nationwide issue. Lead contamination from gun use is everywhere.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
23. Gun owners have no special magical knowledge of guns, upon purchase. What is there to know?
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:23 PM
Jul 2015

Pull small metal hinge...boom!....it works exactly as designed every time, even for children...no special gun knowledge is obtained.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
25. I've spent thousands of hours soldering with 60/40 tin/lead solder over 2 decades
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 09:28 PM
Jul 2015

In just one occupation at a large hi-tech location did the employer include proper ventilation (management at another hi-tech facility in town chuckled about how the fumes would put lead in your pencil). This has been in R&D work, not production, so RoHS (Restriction of Hazardous Subtances) and no-lead solder was not always in force.

I guess I have a good excuse now..

Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
27. The Secret History of Lead--corporations knowingly poisoning us for profit.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 11:19 PM
Jul 2015

This article is from 2000 and leaded gas has since been phased out in most of the world, but I guess it should come as no surprise how willing corporations were to poison us for profit and how unwilling our government was to act on our behalf.

http://www.thenation.com/article/secret-history-lead/

The Secret History of Lead
By Jamie Lincoln Kitman MARCH 2, 2000

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Consider:

§ the severe health hazards of leaded gasoline were known to its makers and clearly identified by the US public health community more than seventy-five years ago, but were steadfastly denied by the makers, because they couldn’t be immediately quantified;

§ other, safer antiknock additives–used to increase gasoline octane and counter engine “knock”–were known and available to oil companies and the makers of lead antiknocks before the lead additive was discovered, but they were covered up and denied, then fought, suppressed and unfairly maligned for decades to follow;

§ the US government was fully apprised of leaded gasoline’s potentially hazardous effects and was aware of available alternatives, yet was complicit in the cover-up and even actively assisted the profiteers in spreading the use of leaded gasoline to foreign countries;

§ the benefits of lead antiknock additives were wildly and knowingly overstated in the beginning, and continue to be. Lead is not only bad for the planet and all its life forms, it is actually bad for cars and always was;

§ for more than four decades, all scientific research regarding the health implications of leaded gasoline was underwritten and controlled by the original lead cabal–Du Pont, GM and Standard Oil; such research invariably favored the industry’s pro-lead views, but was from the outset fatally flawed; independent scientists who would finally catch up with the earlier work’s infirmities and debunk them were–and continue to be–threatened and defamed by the lead interests and their hired hands;

§ confronted in recent years with declining sales in their biggest Western markets, owing to lead phaseouts imposed in the United States and, more recently, Europe, the current sellers of lead additives have successfully stepped up efforts to market their wares in the less-developed world, efforts that persist and have resulted in some countries today placing more lead in their gasoline, per gallon, than was typically used in the West, extra lead that serves no purpose other than profit;

§ faced with lead’s demise and their inevitable days of reckoning, these firms have used the extraordinary financial returns that lead additive sales afford to hurriedly fund diversification into less risky, more conventional businesses, while taking a page from the tobacco companies’ playbook and simultaneously moving to reorganize their corporate structures to shield ownership and management from liability for blanketing the earth with a deadly heavy metal.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
29. Obama's lead abatement work in Chicago was what interested me in his campaign initially
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:02 AM
Jul 2015

I'm skeptical of "panacea" social journalism, but lead really is a problem with incredibly wide-ranging consequences.

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